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Star Man
01-20-2013, 08:34 AM
Shooters (https://www.utne.com/mind-body/shooters.aspx)


1/18/2013 11:32:10 AM
by Steven Taylor


Downloaded January 29, 2013 from https://www.utne.com/mind-body/shooters.aspx

This article originally appeared at Reality Sandwich (https://www.realitysandwich.com/shooters).


Several writers of my acquaintance, such as Allen Ginsberg and Ed Sanders, developed the habit of keeping extensive files of press clippings on stories of personal interest. Noam Chomsky, we're told, does the same thing. An individual news report may mention something in passing that may seem secondary to the main narrative, but when multiple stories collected over time repeat the same seemingly secondary data, important patterns can become apparent.


For example, for many years Ginsberg clipped New York Times articles having to do with the international traffic in narcotics. This collection eventually served as one of the sources for historian Alfred W. McCoy's definitive study linking the heroin trade to U. S. government agencies, The Politics of Heroin (https://www.amazon.com/The-Politics-Heroin-Complicity-Global/dp/1556524838).

Now, amid the sickening media parade endlessly looping, one aspect of the mass shooter phenomenon is continually skipped, but a survey of press reports on the spate of bizarre violence that has arisen since the 1990s reveals a pattern.

In the past few days, following the Newtown murders, various experts have weighed in on the difficulty of profiling the mass shooter type. (An accurate psychological profile, presumably -- and hideously problematically -- could enable parents, teachers, doctors, and law enforcers to predict which individual is headed toward being the next shooter.)


Despite the difficulty of such profiles and predictions, there are two things that such characters have in common. First, they are mostly young white males. Second, many of the perpetrators are reported to have been taking psychoactive prescription medication.

The website "SSRI Stories: Antidepressant Nightmares (https://ssristories.com/index.php)" offers a sortable database of more than 4,800 newspaper articles, scientific journal reports, and TV news items linking antidepressant use to cases of extreme violence.

It is important to note that this site is not peddling some conspiracy theory. It is not speculative at all. The website is an index to reputable sources reporting on actual criminal cases, and inall cases reported, prescription meds are implicated.


The articles show that these violent acts were perpetrated by consumers in the 50 billion dollar a year (https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/life/inside-the-mind/human-brain/antidepressant.htm) selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI) industry. This is a class of drugs whose warning labels and pharmaceutical literature note that a small percentage of SSRI consumers fantasize about and/or exhibit extreme violence.


I was originally tipped to this in July of 2012 in an article by RS regular Jonathan Zap (https://www.realitysandwich.com/batman_shootings_crossover_effects), which he wrote in the wake of the so-called Batman shootings of that summer.

Zap notes as follows.

"Mass shootings, like the one that just happened in Aurora , have become a recurrent nightmare that haunts the collective psyche. As the nightmare repeats, we see patterns emerging. One, which we don't have confirmation on yet in this case, is that the shooter will almost always turn out to be on an SSRI (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor). For example, Colorado's other most famous mass shooting, Columbine, was masterminded by 18-year-old Eric Harris who was on the SSRI medication Luvox. Here's an index of shootings and the SSRI connection someone put together."


The website Jonathan links us to, "SSRI Stories: Antidepressant Nightmares (https://ssristories.com/index.php)," concentrates on reports implicating Prozac (the FDA's number 2 drug for violence), Zoloft, Paxil (number 3 for violence), Celexa, Lexapro, Luvox, Remeron, Anafranil, Effexor, Cymbalta, Pristiq, and Wellbutrin.

Here are a few samples of reports from the site, with comments.

"Tim Kretschmer . . . walked into Albertville Secondary in Winnenden, near Stuttgart, at 9.30am on Wednesday armed with a 9mm Beretta he had stolen from his gun enthusiast father and wearing a K4-Schutz bulletproof vest and the black fatigues of Germany's elite forces, the Kommando Spezialkräfte. . . . He killed nine pupils at Albertville, all but one a girl, and three teachers, all women, in less than 10 minutes. He then shot and killed three bystanders as he tried to escape, before taking his own life after a shootout with police. . . . It emerged that Kretschmer had been suffering from depression . . . and receiving medication for the condition." --Scotland On Sunday, Edinburgh, March 14 2009.


"Hours before he walked into a Northern Illinois University lecture hall and inexplicably started a shooting rampage that ended five lives and his own, Steve Kazmierczak called one of the people he was closest to and said what would be a final goodbye. . . . [According to his girlfriend] 'he was anything but a monster. He was probably the nicest, most caring person ever'. . . . [She said] he saw a psychiatrist monthly but stopped taking Prozac a few weeks ago. She said the medicine 'made him feel like a zombie'." --Chicago Sun Times, February 8, 2008.


What we might call the "zombie effect" seems to come up in many of these cases. Also common is that the violent behavior tends to occur when the patient is either having the dosage adjusted, or has just stopped taking the pills.


The "SSRI Stories" site notes the following.

"The danger of withdrawal from antidepressants and antipsychotics is well documented. The brain tries to compensate for the blockage of the serotonin and dopamine receptors by growing additional receptors for these neurotransmitters. When the medications are discontinued, these additional receptors contribute to an 'overload' of serotonin and dopamine flooding the receptor. This is known as 'supersensitivity psychosis' and 'antidepressant discontinuation syndrome'."

"BEMIDJI, MINN. -- Jeffrey Weise had ‘a good relationship' with the grandfather he shot and killed on Monday as prelude to his deadly assault on students and others at Red Lake High School, according to relatives who are struggling to understand what might have pushed the teenager from sometimes bizarre behavior to mass murder and suicide. . . . They wondered, too, about medication he was supposedly taking for depression, and a recent increase in his prescribed dosage. . . . 60 milligrams a day of Prozac." --Star Tribune (Minnesota), March 24, 2005.


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Big Pharm is a central component of the corporatocracy that now operates America and much of the world for its own benefit. As these reports demonstrate Big Pharm has little regard for the consequences of the drugs it sells. Having little regard for the consequences is a central feature of corporatism. Big Oil cares little for the environmental consequences of its actions including global warming and poisoning the water supplies where fracking takes place. Big Finance cares little for the consequences of the policies that created the housing bubble and the collapse of the banking industry that led to the current recession. Big Weapons and its lickspittle the NRA care nothing about the hideous loss of life resulting from the sales of assault rifles.

We citizens, the populace, are viewed as a resource to be mined, from which our dollars can be extracted.

This will only change when we citizens refuse to buy the products the corporatocracy is selling, and this includes the political candidates Big Politics invests in. Say no to Prozac. Say no to Luvox. Say no to Zoloft. We live in very depressing times. Psychotherapy can help. What can help even more is grassroots political action to change the culture that depresses us.

Star Man

donna campbell
01-20-2013, 03:38 PM
Tragically, all these young white men who have been prescribed these drugs have had NO choice in whether or not to take them - they are being forced by schools, teachers and parents - recent figures are suggesting forced usage on as many as 40% of the white male demographic - and an estimated 5% of recipients of these SSRIs develop the syndrome...perhaps the "unmanagability" that leads to the prescriptions being forced on them, has something to do with the basically irrelevant "education" they are being forced to accept - they KNOW most of it is irrelevant and NO ONE will listen to them - the dumbing down of this generation is tragic - the forced drugging of their humanity is beyond the pale - it's a national disgrace that is only happening in this country - is anyone aware that we and Japan are the ONLY countries in the world which allow TV advertising of prescription drugs - perhaps it's time for each of us to start taking responsibility for our own health rather than requesting some outside substance from some medical god - it might cure alot of the insanity created by all the side affects which we choose to ignore - and who knows, it might alter the brainwaves of those who can then have clear minds, no paranoia and no need to think their guns will save them - what world do we want?

podfish
01-20-2013, 04:17 PM
...there are two things that such characters have in common. First, they are mostly young white males. Second, many of the perpetrators are reported to have been taking psychoactive prescription medication. correlation isn't causation (should be a TLA like CIC, since it's such a cliche).<br><br>Young white men in our society are quite likely to be given psychoactive medication if they show any one of a variety of symptoms. All you can tell for sure is that some people who show such symptoms eventually go on to perpetrate these shootings, and that some people who show such symptoms get drug treatments. Thankfully, though the number of shootings is scarily large, it's not large enough a sample to draw statistically valid conclusions about any correlation. I don't even want to imagine how to do a double-blind controlled experiment here.....

Star Man
01-21-2013, 08:54 AM
Tragically, all these young white men who have been prescribed these drugs have had NO choice in whether or not to take them - they are being forced by schools, teachers and parents - recent figures are suggesting forced usage on as many as 40% of the white male demographic - and an estimated 5% of recipients of these SSRIs develop the syndrome...

A developmental understanding of depression suggests that the young person's childhood environment (quality of parental caregiving, socialization, availability of father and mother in the child's life, TV, the relationship between the parents) all have an effect on who that child becomes. Depression appears to be the result of internal conflict. There is often a Negative Voice, an internalized parent or super-ego, that attacks the child's self concept from within. Healthy anger expression is foreclosed. SSRIs are prescribed to palliate the consequences of less-than-good-enough parenting, and that style of parenting is socially conditioned. That style of parenting could also be changed if as a society we educated young people and parents on healthy parenting. Attachment parenting is a healthy style of parenting. It should be taught in schools.

Star Man

Star Man
01-21-2013, 09:03 AM
correlation isn't causation (should be a TLA like CIC, since it's such a cliche).

Young white men in our society are quite likely to be given psychoactive medication if they show any one of a variety of symptoms. All you can tell for sure is that some people who show such symptoms eventually go on to perpetrate these shootings, and that some people who show such symptoms get drug treatments. Thankfully, though the number of shootings is scarily large, it's not large enough a sample to draw statistically valid conclusions about any correlation. I don't even want to imagine how to do a double-blind controlled experiment here.....

So, Podfish, what I hear you saying is that we should ignore the correlation between antidepressant discontinuation and murderous rampages that result in the killing of children because there's not a large enough sample to draw a statistically valid conclusion. I suspect your attitude would change if your child or grandchild had been murdered in Newtown.

Furthermore, it would be unethical to attempt a double-bind controlled experiment. For that very reason, we must accept the obvious correlation between discontinuation of an SSRI and mass murder. I hear you using a cognitive defense to avoid feeling the horror of what happened at Sandy Hook.

Star Man

Star Man
01-22-2013, 09:09 AM
I will say that it is unfair to believe that anyone who takes SSRIs might threaten violence. I think there must be another component involved here that when added together is a problem.


Dear Serenti,

The data do not say that anyone who takes SSRIs might commit violence. The data say that many mass murderers have recently stopped taking SSRIs. As you reported, you felt uncomfortable after ceasing SSRIs, but you did not commit mass murder.

I agree there is probably some other component. A complete psychosocial profile of mass murderers might reveal what that component is, but that will be difficult research to accomplish since many mass murderers suicide as the last act of their rampage.

Star Man