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Peace Voyager
11-12-2012, 06:25 PM
www.news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/white-house-may-respond-texas-secession-petition-212328772--election.html (https://www.news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/white-house-may-respond-texas-secession-petition-212328772--election.html)
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By Olivier Knox, Yahoo! News (https://news.yahoo.com/blogs/author/olivier-knox/)

White House Correspondent
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Looks like the Obama administration may have to respond to a petition seeking the green light for Texas to secede from the United States—one of 20 such requests filed on the official White House website since Election Day.

At the time of the writing of this post, the Texas secession petition (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-texas-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/BmdWCP8B) had garnered 25,318 signatures—above the White House's self-imposed rules for requiring a reply (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/how-why/terms-participation).

The White House may opt out of replying. Under its own rules, "To avoid the appearance of improper influence, the White House may decline to address certain procurement, law enforcement, adjudicatory, or similar matters properly within the jurisdiction of federal departments or agencies, federal courts, or state and local government in its response to a petition."

Other secession petitions include requests for Arkansas, South Carolina, Georgia, Missouri, Tennessee, Michigan, Colorado, Oregon, New Jersey, North Dakota, Montana, Indiana, Mississippi, Kentucky, North Carolina, Alabama and New York. (Spoiler alert: No, the White House won't approve secession.)

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Secession may be the only way to have peace in our country. Next election, how about we let states vote themselves Blue, Red or Green; and set the Red and Green ones free?

:usflag:Patriot for Peace,

Colleen Fernald

Valley Oak
11-12-2012, 09:06 PM
Interesting food for thought.

But if there were secession, might there be armed conflict between a modern Confederate States of America and the US?

And I seriously doubt that any of the 50 states could garner enough votes to secede from the Union as "Green States."

But it is still a tempting thought. After all, A LOT of the griping from the former Confederate states would all but disappear from current political discourse. Most of the Tea Party, Libertarian, racist, homophobic, misogynistic, religious fanatic, etc, vitriol would become largely extinct.

Who knows what would be best?

Edward


www.news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/white-house-may-respond-texas-secession-petition-212328772--election.html (https://www.news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/white-house-may-respond-texas-secession-petition-212328772--election.html)
<cite id="yui_3_5_1_21_1352772784052_329" class="byline vcard">
By Olivier Knox, Yahoo! News (https://news.yahoo.com/blogs/author/olivier-knox/)

White House Correspondent
</cite>
Looks like the Obama administration may have to respond to a petition seeking the green light for Texas to secede from the United States—one of 20 such requests filed on the official White House website since Election Day.

At the time of the writing of this post, the Texas secession petition (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-texas-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/BmdWCP8B) had garnered 25,318 signatures—above the White House's self-imposed rules for requiring a reply (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/how-why/terms-participation).

The White House may opt out of replying. Under its own rules, "To avoid the appearance of improper influence, the White House may decline to address certain procurement, law enforcement, adjudicatory, or similar matters properly within the jurisdiction of federal departments or agencies, federal courts, or state and local government in its response to a petition."

Other secession petitions include requests for Arkansas, South Carolina, Georgia, Missouri, Tennessee, Michigan, Colorado, Oregon, New Jersey, North Dakota, Montana, Indiana, Mississippi, Kentucky, North Carolina, Alabama and New York. (Spoiler alert: No, the White House won't approve secession.)

*****

Secession may be the only way to have peace in our country. Next election, how about we let states vote themselves Blue, Red or Green; and set the Red and Green ones free?

:usflag:Patriot for Peace,

Colleen Fernald

fafner
11-13-2012, 07:57 PM
I have often mused, while appreciating Lincoln's freeing of the slaves, whether we might be happier if we let the South secede.



Interesting food for thought.

But if there were secession, might there be armed conflict between a modern Confederate States of America and the US?

And I seriously doubt that any of the 50 states could garner enough votes to secede from the Union as "Green States."

But it is still a tempting thought. After all, A LOT of the griping from the former Confederate states would all but disappear from current political discourse. Most of the Tea Party, Libertarian, racist, homophobic, misogynistic, religious fanatic, etc, vitriol would become largely extinct.

Who knows what would be best?

Edward

Peace Voyager
11-13-2012, 10:42 PM
IMO - we should have given a whole state to the Native Americans long ago. I'd been in support of that now if they promise to keep the casinos out, and protect the environment.

Purple states aren't ideal because of certain issues folks will never likely be in agreement on: abortion, LGBT rights, cannabis, invading sovereign nations, etc.

This is why I like the tribal model. Find your fit or migrate with a color coded map of values.

Don't think we'd need a civil war to make that happen. Just allow the majority to rule and the minority relocate. Too bad the pioneers didn't have advanced planning skills.

Imagine a rainbow LGBT state; and making Nevada day-glo technicolor and deem it the Burning Man State.

Anyway, in my view, and that of others I know; states' rights trump federal. I don't think the federal government has the right to keep a state from leaving our union if a super majority votes for it.

Mind you, I'm from South Carolina, the 1st state to secede.
Personally, I'm about ready for a whole new planet.:abduct:


I have often mused, while appreciating Lincoln's freeing of the slaves, whether we might be happier if we let the South secede.