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SoCo Intactivists
07-31-2012, 08:35 PM
When (alleged) adults resort to name-calling and other behavior typical of school-yard bullies, it is one of the cardinal signs that their racket being threatened -- and they are desperately trying to protect it.



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https://intactamerica.wordpress.com/2012/07/30/is-this-what-religious-freedom-looks-like/

The recent decision by a court in Cologne, Germany, which—following the circumcision-gone-wrong of a four-year-old Muslim boy—declared infant and child circumcision to be a crime and a human rights violation, seems to have started a trend. Shortly thereafter, in both Austria and Switzerland, hospitals announced that they will cease circumcising children in the absence of medical necessity.

Jewish groups cry “anti-Semitism!” (despite the fact that the child in question was not Jewish)—while throwing in the fact that among Muslims, circumcision is also ubiquitous. One group of rabbis called the German court decision “the worst thing to happen since the Holocaust.” Thus, they claim, any effort to ban the cutting of (boy) children violates the religious freedom of peoples who can cite a justification for this ritual from an ancient book.

Meanwhile in New York City, fearful of being called anti-Jewish, the Health Department has allowed ultra-Orthodox Jews to continue a practice, “metzizah b’peh,” by which the circumciser sucks the blood from the freshly cut penis with his mouth. This ritual, practiced only among a small segment of the Orthodox population, has led to two deaths in Brooklyn, and devastating injuries—including blindness and brain damage—in eleven other children. The ritual circumciser knew he was infected with active herpes, a disease survivable for adults, but deadly for infants.

In reaction, some officials have proposed that parents sign a “consent form,” which would do nothing to protect the child, but would allow the City to avoid any responsibility and— instead—blame the parents.

May we ask: Is this what religious freedom looks like?

[ Disturbing photo removed. Click here (https://intactamerica.wordpress.com/2012/07/30/is-this-what-religious-freedom-looks-like/) if you want to see it - Barry]

Is this what we are protecting, in order to assure the world we are not anti-Semitic?

https://intactamerica.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/orthodoxcirc.jpg?w=264&h=185

Will this baby, numbed by shock as wine dribbles out of his mouth, thank us for preserving the religious freedom of his parents to hire somebody to cut off part of his penis?

https://intactamerica.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/shockbaby.jpg?w=297&h=166

Is it anti-Semitic (or anti-Muslim) to advocate for babies and children who have their own right to religious freedom, but are too young to exercise it?

Is it not genuinely anti-Semitic or anti-Muslim to fail to defend the sons of Jews and Muslims? Are they any less worthy of our protection?

Georganne Chapin and John Geisheker
(John Geisheker is an attorney, and the Executive Director of Doctors Opposing Circumcision)

neil
08-03-2012, 05:32 PM
I am of Jewish ancestry. To those who say prohibiting circumcision is anti-semitic, I say: practice your religion on your own penis, not on those of young boys who could not have chosen this for themselves!

Neil


May we ask: Is this what religious freedom looks like?

[ Disturbing photo removed. Click here (https://intactamerica.wordpress.com/2012/07/30/is-this-what-religious-freedom-looks-like/) if you want to see it - Barry]

Peace Voyager
08-04-2012, 03:39 PM
Thanks for this important honesty. No religion should do harm.

I'm not Jewish, and this issue was not on my radar when I had my son. I just felt like it was not my place to choose this irreversible action for him.

As I understand it, for those who do it for religious reasons, it's not done by a doctor, or with any anesthesia; is this correct? Wouldn't someone go to jail for that if it was done on an adult?

Furthermore; killing, in the name of God, or for our "freedom"; has got to be the most hypocritical act on earth.

Fighting the "war on terror"; the name we give the current WW III, wars of choice without a declaration of war; is the primary source of our loss of security and resources. The Department of Defense acts with offense and the Left falls silent. Why?

Bombing Iran for Israel's "defense" is a lie. It's not about the people of Israel to being safe; it's for the 1% to keep their investments safe. A game to keep the price of oil up, and the justification for more investments in nuclear and non-nuclear weapons.

India has nukes, and has not signed the non-proliferation agreement; why do we not treat them as we do Iran? Does the sentiment of one Iranian leader, (which was BTW misquoted), really mean we should attack a whole country, or support our ally in doing so? How are we, or Israel, any better than them for making these threats?

It's up to all of us to change this; now.

Today is Obama's birthday. Please tell him he will not get your vote unless he ends the policy of unconstitutional war. Please tell the Congressional candidates they will not get your vote until they take back the power to declare war; bring our National Guard home; and return our tax dollars for AmericaCare.

This is not about the Right, or the Left; it's about investing in ourselves, not Warfare Inc.

Nothing is more important for our fragile: environment, local and state budgets. Nothing will change, unless we speak up and insist on it.

PS While you all were working for your party, and not these principles during the last primary; the de-cloaking of Martial Law was furthered; just look at Anaheim.

What are you waiting for?

Occupy your electeds! Insist they uphold their Oath of Office.

Occupy your conversations! Reach out to your conservative friends and family with kindness. Perhaps they can be led to see their own hypocrisy, and the conflict of Romney's religion and politics working against America's best interest.

:waccosun:Occupy your vote! Or 2012 may not have the outcome we can live with.

Colleen Fernald

Candidate for PEACE!
Sebastopol City Council



I am of Jewish ancestry. To those who say prohibiting circumcision is anti-semitic, I say: practice your religion on your own penis, not on those of young boys who could not have chosen this for themselves!

Neil


May we ask: Is this what religious freedom looks like?

[ Disturbing photo removed. Click here (https://intactamerica.wordpress.com/2012/07/30/is-this-what-religious-freedom-looks-like/) if you want to see it - Barry]