As the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA - with its indefinite detention provisions) and its totalitarian twin the EAA (Enemy Expatriation Act) continue to dominate the alternative media conversation, we thought it would be a good time to step back and examine the larger agenda behind these legislative nightmares.
When we understand what the larger agenda (https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?llr=r4donkhab&et=1109103630247&s=39813&e=001kBGk42Jtm89E5xEEkh9rsnSKh4dGxcuIKjJE0q3g8KqUKNplj8tVm-715DJ76DLfP6Gq_l3K_JotR0C6AoKS0pZ7JRnkNUJfJBIufkoQpgkPI6Ui2L2BSB-uY2WCl8KKkc7l2QRaTR_XgioSNWOCxg==) is we can then develop solutions that are truly sufficient to meet the challenges we face.
After a lifetime journey of pursuing the question, 'what is keeping us from thriving?' my research revealed that a small group of financial elite (https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?llr=r4donkhab&et=1109103630247&s=39813&e=001kBGk42Jtm89E5xEEkh9rsnSKh4dGxcuIKjJE0q3g8KqUKNplj8tVm-715DJ76DLfP6Gq_l3K_JotR0C6AoKS0pZ7JRnkNUJfJBIufkoQpgkPI6Ui2L2BSB-uY2WCl8KKkc7l2QRaTR_XgioSNWOCxg==) have gained control over key areas of our lives - energy, food, health care, education and more - and are the single greatest threat to humanity's ability to thrive.
At first, a global domination agenda (https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?llr=r4donkhab&et=1109103630247&s=39813&e=001kBGk42Jtm89E5xEEkh9rsnSKh4dGxcuIKjJE0q3g8KqUKNplj8tVm-715DJ76DLfP6Gq_l3K_JotR0C6AoKS0pZ7JRnkNUJfJBIufkoQpgkPI6Ui2L2BSB-uY2WCl8KKkc7l2QRaTR_XgioSNWOCxg==) to control others was hard for me to consider. But as I spent many years getting myself educated about it, many things that hadn't made sense began to fall into place. A different story began to emerge which, as horrible as it was to consider, actually explained more than ever before.
I came to realize the desperate drive to dominate others is based in a worldview of scarcity and fear. The controlling elite seem to believe the only options are to control, or be controlled, and realizing that gave me a better understanding of why they have chosen their current route.
So, WHAT is the Global Domination Agenda (https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?llr=r4donkhab&et=1109103630247&s=39813&e=001kBGk42Jtm89E5xEEkh9rsnSKh4dGxcuIKjJE0q3g8KqUKNplj8tVm-715DJ76DLfP6Gq_l3K_JotR0C6AoKS0pZ7JRnkNUJfJBIufkoQpgkPI6Ui2L2BSB-uY2WCl8KKkc7l2QRaTR_XgioSNWOCxg==)?
It is a plan by powerful private bankers to take over all our primary systems (money, energy, food, media, etc.) and to establish a sole global authority - with themselves in charge. They use the media, central banks, multinational corporations, governments, major foundations, and international agencies such as the IMF and World Bank to implement their strategies.
To date they have successfully brought down countries across the globe, including Argentina, Chile, Ecuador, Argentina, Tanzania, Indonesia, Brazil, Poland, Mexico, Bolivia, Thailand, Iceland, the Soviet Union, Japan, Greece and scores of others. They are now attempting to dismantle the U.S. by collapsing the dollar and making sure Americans are in debt they can't repay.
It's not that humans are incapable of thriving. It's that we've been duped into a system that is designed to consolidate wealth and power in the hands of a controlling few, rather than provide a real opportunity for everyone to thrive.
While exposing this agenda (https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?llr=r4donkhab&et=1109103630247&s=39813&e=001kBGk42Jtm89E5xEEkh9rsnSKh4dGxcuIKjJE0q3g8KqUKNplj8tVm-715DJ76DLfP6Gq_l3K_JotR0C6AoKS0pZ7JRnkNUJfJBIufkoQpgkPI6Ui2L2BSB-uY2WCl8KKkc7l2QRaTR_XgioSNWOCxg==) and strategically challenging deceptive systems such as central banks and fiat money, people are beginning to come up with new ways to organize and cooperate - based on core moral principles rather than corrupt politics. We can withdraw our participation from this destructive agenda and liberate our planet and our true human potential.
To that end, please help reverse the NDAA (https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?llr=r4donkhab&et=1109103630247&s=39813&e=001kBGk42Jtm8_874dJZwntT0wAFzANqpG_4SJw5gws9paSYQWvi0ilHl9KpVJd2b4UbE1fl_6ZbiKcbwPU1zbM5YLrXL0Jt9AnjlD2YSPC7J1XyxGHXRwHcSWsloLzIkcUbdWA8XW-vVYUW4tDTkzqgR6Z7SvzSJG4pyX1T5nXW_aCcgg19zUgBUGtvucoDuUBda9SnkcDWZcRTJR4t2WWl0SpxbTNiWK0) by telling Congress to block the indefinite detention of people.
Thanks for everything you are doing to create a world where we can all thrive.
Sincerely,
Foster, Kimberly, and the THRIVE team
PS - please keep an eye out for next week's email where we will discuss HOW the agenda is being implemented so our solution strategies can be most leveraged.
CSummer
01-22-2012, 09:40 PM
I mostly agree with the analysis presented here, but the "solution" seems rather puzzling to me - and unlikely to succeed.
Near the end, it says:
"While exposing this agenda (https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?llr=r4donkhab&et=1109103630247&s=39813&e=001kBGk42Jtm89E5xEEkh9rsnSKh4dGxcuIKjJE0q3g8KqUKNplj8tVm-715DJ76DLfP6Gq_l3K_JotR0C6AoKS0pZ7JRnkNUJfJBIufkoQpgkPI6Ui2L2BSB-uY2WCl8KKkc7l2QRaTR_XgioSNWOCxg==) and strategically challenging deceptive systems such as central banks and fiat money, people are beginning to come up with new ways to organize and cooperate - based on core moral principles rather than corrupt politics. We can withdraw our participation from this destructive agenda and liberate our planet and our true human potential."
And then:
"To that end, please help reverse the NDAA (https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?llr=r4donkhab&et=1109103630247&s=39813&e=001kBGk42Jtm8_874dJZwntT0wAFzANqpG_4SJw5gws9paSYQWvi0ilHl9KpVJd2b4UbE1fl_6ZbiKcbwPU1zbM5YLrXL0Jt9AnjlD2YSPC7J1XyxGHXRwHcSWsloLzIkcUbdWA8XW-vVYUW4tDTkzqgR6Z7SvzSJG4pyX1T5nXW_aCcgg19zUgBUGtvucoDuUBda9SnkcDWZcRTJR4t2WWl0SpxbTNiWK0) by telling Congress to block the indefinite detention of people."
It seems to me that people are coming up with new ways to organize and cooperate because they realize how futile it is to try changing the existing system. They talk about "corrupt politics" and say "we can withdraw our participation from this destructive agenda" and then suggest that we try to get Congress to reverse the NDAA! How is that not an act of futility and also participating in a corrupt system? It seems a bit crazy given the recent performance of the government to suggest that we can tell Congress to do something and expect that will change anything.
It's baffling to me that they would talk about things people are doing that have some hope of replacing a dysfunctional and obsolete system, and then suggest that we once again try to get that system to do what we think it should! Perhaps someone can help me make sense of this. :hmmm:
CSummer
Dear Thrive Movement,
As the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA - with its indefinite detention provisions) and its totalitarian twin the EAA (Enemy Expatriation Act) continue to dominate the alternative media conversation, we thought it would be a good time to step back and examine the larger agenda behind these legislative nightmares.........
ubaru
01-23-2012, 12:55 AM
I mostly agree with the analysis presented here, but the "solution" seems rather puzzling to me - and unlikely to succeed.
Near the end, it says:
"While exposing this agenda (https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?llr=r4donkhab&et=1109103630247&s=39813&e=001kBGk42Jtm89E5xEEkh9rsnSKh4dGxcuIKjJE0q3g8KqUKNplj8tVm-715DJ76DLfP6Gq_l3K_JotR0C6AoKS0pZ7JRnkNUJfJBIufkoQpgkPI6Ui2L2BSB-uY2WCl8KKkc7l2QRaTR_XgioSNWOCxg==) and strategically challenging deceptive systems such as central banks and fiat money, people are beginning to come up with new ways to organize and cooperate - based on core moral principles rather than corrupt politics. We can withdraw our participation from this destructive agenda and liberate our planet and our true human potential."
And then:
"To that end, please help reverse the NDAA (https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?llr=r4donkhab&et=1109103630247&s=39813&e=001kBGk42Jtm8_874dJZwntT0wAFzANqpG_4SJw5gws9paSYQWvi0ilHl9KpVJd2b4UbE1fl_6ZbiKcbwPU1zbM5YLrXL0Jt9AnjlD2YSPC7J1XyxGHXRwHcSWsloLzIkcUbdWA8XW-vVYUW4tDTkzqgR6Z7SvzSJG4pyX1T5nXW_aCcgg19zUgBUGtvucoDuUBda9SnkcDWZcRTJR4t2WWl0SpxbTNiWK0) by telling Congress to block the indefinite detention of people."
It seems to me that people are coming up with new ways to organize and cooperate because they realize how futile it is to try changing the existing system. They talk about "corrupt politics" and say "we can withdraw our participation from this destructive agenda" and then suggest that we try to get Congress to reverse the NDAA! How is that not an act of futility and also participating in a corrupt system? It seems a bit crazy given the recent performance of the government to suggest that we can tell Congress to do something and expect that will change anything.
It's baffling to me that they would talk about things people are doing that have some hope of replacing a dysfunctional and obsolete system, and then suggest that we once again try to get that system to do what we think it should! Perhaps someone can help me make sense of this. :hmmm:
CSummer
Clint, I totally understand the idea that we can't find solutions by going to the problem and asking for help. I experience it all the time from issues as diverse as food freedom to election reform every time I call our senators. I feel like I'm spitting into the wind. And yet, some of our senators, including Feinstein, if I'm remembering correctly, have introduced legislation to take the worst parts of NDAA out. They feel the pressure, and it's good to keep it on them while we work to replace them with TRUE representatives of the people. Look how well that's turned out for defeating SOPA in a mere 3 days.
However, this is putting out fires set by the ruling elite. And I agree with you that a deeper, more fundamental approach is necessary to change the whole paradigm. I think we need both, actually. We need to put out fires such as NDAA and SOPA, (because we need such vital things like the internet to enact change) but also work on the deeper change.
I posted this without reading the links, but as I clicked on them to better understand your questions, I saw that the education at the agenda (https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?llr=r4donkhab&et=1109103630247&s=39813&e=001kBGk42Jtm89E5xEEkh9rsnSKh4dGxcuIKjJE0q3g8KqUKNplj8tVm-715DJ76DLfP6Gq_l3K_JotR0C6AoKS0pZ7JRnkNUJfJBIufkoQpgkPI6Ui2L2BSB-uY2WCl8KKkc7l2QRaTR_XgioSNWOCxg==) link is invaluable to any effort to overthrow the current system. One of the biggest tasks is helping people wake up to what's happening. Also, not in this letter, is a link to the Solutions section of the Thrive website where you can understand strategies for creating solutions, find out specific things you can do, join critical mass actions, and celebrate our successes. https://www.thrivemovement.com/solutions I've joined every critical mass action there and encourage others to do so. The Thrive Movement and their website is a very organized compendium for revolution.
Your gift, most certainly Clint, is working on the deeper fundamental level, and I want to applaud and support you heartily in doing that. :thumbsup: It's incredibly valuable. You might enjoy the ideas of mudpuppy who is working at this level here on Wacco https://www.waccobb.net/forums/search.php?searchid=364425 and more regularly at his blog https://opencollaboration.wordpress.com/
Liz:waccosun:
CSummer
01-26-2012, 09:58 PM
Thanks for your response, Liz.
Having finally read the rest of "the Problem" on the Thrive web site, it seems to me they are missing a large part of the picture in their analysis. I am reminded of a quote attributed to Louis Pasteur: "The microbe is nothing; the terrain is everything." When this is applied to a social order, the "terrain" is us - we humans and the way of life we have bought into. The "microbes" are those who, in the dominant paradigm, are at the top of the pyramid, living parasitically off the rest of us. By buying into their systems, we have given up our birthright to know what we want and to cooperate in creating a society that gives us what we want. By depending on and working within these systems, we become relatively powerless and unwittingly work against ourselves. But we are the ones who make it all possible; the unjust, destructive and inhumane systems would not exist without our participation.
What is called a conspiracy is a small number of people who have a plan or agenda and who are well organized around that agenda. Our challenge is to come up with our own plan and to get organized around it. If we think it should be an agenda to overthrow the dominant power structure, I believe we will fail. We cannot and will not overthrow what we're supporting. When our agenda is to learn to live (to meet our needs) without supporting that structure, then we can begin to remove our power from it. If enough people join us, then it will crumble due to lack of support.
They, the 1%, have become masters at coordinating human activity for their own ends. We need to master that skill ourselves so we can work together in concert for our own purposes. I think it's not as difficult as we imagine.
> Your gift, most certainly Clint, is working on the deeper fundamental level, and I want to applaud and support you heartily in doing that.
Thank you, Liz. It seems to me that if we want radical (fundamental) change, we need to do something radically different. Which is why it seems so baffling to me that someone like Foster Gamble, who has some valuable insights into why things are as they are, would recommend strategies that have been tried over and over for decades. I'm reminded of one definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. At some point, we have to say: Well, that doesn't seem to be working. Let's see if we can understand why. Let's explore what we really have the power to do and do that! Trying to do things that aren't within our power just reinforces the unconscious sense of powerlessness that is part of our cultural "baggage."
CSummer
Clint, I totally understand the idea that we can't find solutions by going to the problem and asking for help. I experience it all the time from issues as diverse as food freedom to election reform every time I call our senators. I feel like I'm spitting into the wind. And yet, some of our senators, including Feinstein, if I'm remembering correctly, have introduced legislation to take the worst parts of NDAA out. They feel the pressure, and it's good to keep it on them while we work to replace them with TRUE representatives of the people. Look how well that's turned out for defeating SOPA in a mere 3 days.However, this is putting out fires set by the ruling elite. And I agree with you that a deeper, more fundamental approach is necessary to change the whole paradigm. I think we need both, actually. We need to put out fires such as NDAA and SOPA, (because we need such vital things like the internet to enact change) but also work on the deeper change.I posted this without reading the links, but as I clicked on them to better understand your questions, I saw that the education at the agenda (https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?llr=r4donkhab&et=1109103630247&s=39813&e=001kBGk42Jtm89E5xEEkh9rsnSKh4dGxcuIKjJE0q3g8KqUKNplj8tVm-715DJ76DLfP6Gq_l3K_JotR0C6AoKS0pZ7JRnkNUJfJBIufkoQpgkPI6Ui2L2BSB-uY2WCl8KKkc7l2QRaTR_XgioSNWOCxg==) link is invaluable to any effort to overthrow the current system. One of the biggest tasks is helping people wake up to what's happening. Also, not in this letter, is a link to the Solutions section of the Thrive website where you can understand strategies for creating solutions, find out specific things you can do, join critical mass actions, and celebrate our successes. https://www.thrivemovement.com/solutions I've joined every critical mass action there and encourage others to do so. The Thrive Movement and their website is a very organized compendium for revolution.Your gift, most certainly Clint, is working on the deeper fundamental level, and I want to applaud and support you heartily in doing that. :thumbsup: It's incredibly valuable. You might enjoy the ideas of mudpuppy who is working at this level here on Wacco https://www.waccobb.net/forums/search.php?searchid=364425 and more regularly at his blog https://opencollaboration.wordpress.com/Liz:waccosun:
CSummer
01-27-2012, 12:04 AM
I need to add that there's a lot missing from what I wrote above, and it will have to wait until another time.
Meanwhile, we need to appreciate the fact that the dominant socio-economic structures have gotten us to where we are as a highly advanced technological society. The managers of people are in those positions because we have needed - even desired - someone to manage us, because we've felt incapable of self-management. But obviously there are problems, and these systems do not seem to be adapting to new environmental realities nor evolving into more just or humane forms. There is - must be - a better way, and we need it very soon!
There is more to be seen and understood. Let's keep looking and inquiring.
CSummer
Thanks for your response, Liz.
Having finally read the rest of "the Problem" on the Thrive web site, it seems to me they are missing a large part of the picture in their analysis. I am reminded of a quote attributed to Louis Pasteur: "The microbe is nothing; the terrain is everything." When this is applied to a social order, the "terrain" is us - we humans and the way of life we have bought into. The "microbes" are those who, in the dominant paradigm, are at the top of the pyramid, living parasitically off the rest of us. By buying into their systems, we have given up our birthright to know what we want and to cooperate in creating a society that gives us what we want. By depending on and working within these systems, we become relatively powerless and unwittingly work against ourselves. But we are the ones who make it all possible; the unjust, destructive and inhumane systems would not exist without our participation.
What is called a conspiracy is a small number of people who have a plan or agenda and who are well organized around that agenda. Our challenge is to come up with our own plan and to get organized around it. If we think it should be an agenda to overthrow the dominant power structure, I believe we will fail. We cannot and will not overthrow what we're supporting. When our agenda is to learn to live (to meet our needs) without supporting that structure, then we can begin to remove our power from it. If enough people join us, then it will crumble due to lack of support.
They, the 1%, have become masters at coordinating human activity for their own ends. We need to master that skill ourselves so we can work together in concert for our own purposes. I think it's not as difficult as we imagine.
> Your gift, most certainly Clint, is working on the deeper fundamental level, and I want to applaud and support you heartily in doing that.
Thank you, Liz. It seems to me that if we want radical (fundamental) change, we need to do something radically different. Which is why it seems so baffling to me that someone like Foster Gamble, who has some valuable insights into why things are as they are, would recommend strategies that have been tried over and over for decades. I'm reminded of one definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. At some point, we have to say: Well, that doesn't seem to be working. Let's see if we can understand why. Let's explore what we really have the power to do and do that! Trying to do things that aren't within our power just reinforces the unconscious sense of powerlessness that is part of our cultural "baggage."