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[Orm Embar]

I am posting this here to keep all Occupy Sebastopol stuff all in one spot.
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Re: Comments 'against' OWS...

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lynn wrote:
What are the goals of OWS?...
MLK, and Ghandi had clear focus, and organization...Without leadership and clear goals, I don't see what is suppose to encourage more people to support it...
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I went down to Occupy Sebastopol and asked the same question: What is the goal of Occupy Sebastopol? It sparked some interesting sharing and what I came away with was this: We can rest easy that there is no head-long rush into defining the goals of this movement. All we know is that things are not right and it is our responsibility - as the people of our community (be that Sebastopol, California, USA or the world) - to come together and do the hard work of making a shift.

I know this may seem unreasonable . . . but I believe the power of this movement rests in the fact that it cannot be pinned down and therefore ignored or refuted. By the time there is a clear singular goal there will be the entire mass of people behind it . . . less opportunity to splinter the movement or halt the momentum.

There are some interesting conversations taking place in our plaza . . . come join in. There is a bulletin board being set up today for ideas to be posted when these conversations result in something to be shared. There are General Assemblies (GAs) - any and all are invited to attend. Today (Mon) the GA is at 3pm.

The format for decision-making is Full Consensus. Consensus skills take some practice and many people are new to this way of making decisions, so group dynamics will be bumpy for a while. If you have facilitation experience, maybe you can come on down and help facilitate the infancy of this movement!

What do you want the goal to be?

[nicofrog]

I am posting this here to keep all Occupy Sebastopol stuff all in one spot.
: )

Re: Comments 'against' OWS...

***snip***
lynn wrote:
What are the goals of OWS?...
MLK, and Ghandi had clear focus, and organization...Without leadership and clear goals, I don't see what is suppose to encourage more people to support it...
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I went down to Occupy Sebastopol and asked the same question: What is the goal of Occupy Sebastopol? It sparked some interesting sharing and what I came away with was this: We can rest easy that there is no head-long rush into defining the goals of this movement. All we know is that things are not right and it is our responsibility - as the people of our community (be that Sebastopol, California, USA or the world) - to come together and do the hard work of making a shift.

I know this may seem unreasonable . . . but I believe the power of this movement rests in the fact that it cannot be pinned down and therefore ignored or refuted. By the time there is a clear singular goal there will be the entire mass of people behind it . . . less opportunity to splinter the movement or halt the momentum.

There are some interesting conversations taking place in our plaza . . . come join in. There is a bulletin board being set up today for ideas to be posted when these conversations result in something to be shared. There are General Assemblies (GAs) - any and all are invited to attend. Today (Mon) the GA is at 3pm.

The format for decision-making is Full Consensus. Consensus skills take some practice and many people are new to this way of making decisions, so group dynamics will be bumpy for a while. If you have facilitation experience, maybe you can come on down and help facilitate the infancy of this movement!

What do you want the goal to be?"
OK so hey; !!!!!!!!! MIKE CHECK!!!!!
Time to "throw down for O W S etc all the way so hey
here is MY perspective this WORLD WIDE IVOLUTION WILL NOT BE NAMED ,AND HENCE WILL NOT BE TAMED they want us to get an office and a .org and start fundraising and getting candidate endorsements S**** That
and as SOON as you choose a TOPIC You leave SOMEONE OUT, Perhaps it is(as some say"purely a financial gripe") NONSENSE does WAR have nothing to do with finances..and Whoe while we are on war, let us American Occupiers since Columbus not forget our FIRST WAR, The Native American Struggle!! and if that is separate from Immigrant rights, then who am I ? The Guy who's border crossed theirs? I think so..
and the feminists (who have been quick to point out old habits die hard--and then do we leave out Gay L.B.T. hey I might get in trouble for putting Italics).. THIS IVOLUTION cannot leave out the HEART OR ANYBODY,<animal ,plant=""> Handicapped access still sucks.. I and I RASTA mon
THE POWER LIES IN NOT BEING FORCED TO CHOOSE, A LOT of our people are going to be republicans and Christians rightists who are also waking up,Veterans,Police who step over the line will lead ARMY who step over the line, But NOT if we
become a schism of radical widow busters,what window would Gandhi break? (Let the Monkey wrench Gang(Like Anonymous) work their separate scene..) Even Greenpeace and R A N and a MILLION other groups are bot a support,but not our official party line OF COARSE the environment duh we need a place to be homeless IN? no?
AND YES among our Homeless will be tramps and vagrants and hey dude,can you spare a dime dudes (and count ME in with them)
I carry a shovel,and I work,but I have no home,I spend that Money on rental for my TOOLS Because there's more WORK to be done than COMFORTS to be had(and there are enough rich people around here who can share their over abundant comforts with ME thank you very much.
AND NO ,Sorry I'm NOT down ON the line(bin there in the 60's) I work with KIDS ,That's My tiny revolt,getting arrested would not serve that.

I'm into OCCUPY THE MALLS like Billy Talin! SIDEWALK CHALK the Facts,just the FACTS in front of every corporate franchise in Sonoma County.. I can do a few,together,we can do many. check out this juicy link..:) Pas Y Amor! the entire MEANING of "The revolution will not be televised"is showing up now see it? Not on cnn.
https://www.youtube. (https://www.youtube.com/)Michael Beckwith visits Occupy LA. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=biK_Q0vryKY)com/</animal>