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Hotspring 44
08-31-2011, 12:18 PM
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Even though some of the content below is somewhat past tense every single thing mentioned in it has evolved to what is now coursing through American politics.

Considering the recent publication and distribution of ex-vice president Dick Cheney's new book, I think that it has now become quite pertinent... ... so here is some of “it”...

...Note: The complete article in the top part of the below "box" ("Table") is here: https://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_louise_010603_pnac.html
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”The blueprint for our current foreign policy was being written back in 1992 by then-Defense Secretary, Dick Cheney.
His writings set out a new doctrine that called for U.S. power in the twentieth century, to be that of an aggressive and unilateral approach that would secure American dominance of world affairs by force if necessary.
This "peace through strength" policy has been unfolding from the day Bush, Jr. took office; the strategic planning of it was done during the Clinton administration with funding from the military-industrial complex, energy companies, and right-wing foundations.
Over time, those working on these new plans evolved into PNAC, established in 1997 with members Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz at the helm. May God help us!

In September 2000, the PNAC updated and refined Cheney's original version into a new report entitled: "Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategies, Forces, and Resources for a New Century" calling for unprecedented hikes in military spending, American military bases in Central Asia and Middle East, toppling of non-complying regimes, abrogation of international treaties, control of the world's energy sources, militarization of outer space, total control of cyberspace, and the willingness to use nuclear weapons to achieve "American" goals.

This plan by the neo-conservative or neo-con think tank, PNAC, shows Bush's cabinet intended to take military control whether or not Saddam Hussein was in power and says the U.S. for decades has sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security, revealing that a premeditated attack on Iraq to secure a regime change was planned even before Bush took power in January, 2001. The lengthy blueprint for U.S. global domination can be accessed at https://cryptome.org/rad.htm.”
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The PNAC intends to explain what world leadership entails through issue briefs, advocacy journalism, conferences, and seminars. Also, the "Committee for the Liberation of Iraq" is setting up offices on Capitol Hill, which appears to be a front group spin-off from PNAC and its mission statement is to replace the Saddam Hussein regime with a democratic government, engaging in educational and advocacy efforts to mobilize the U.S. and international support for their policies. The Project for a New American Century, www.newamericancentury.org (https://www.waccobb.net/forums/www.newamericancentury.org), is an initiative of the New Citizenship Project (https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=New_Citizenship_Project) (501c3).”
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ALEC Exposed (https://alecexposed.org/wiki/ALEC_Exposed)

ALEC Corporations (https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=ALEC_Corporations) : “ALEC (https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=ALEC) is not a lobby; it is not a front group. It is much more powerful than that. Through ALEC, behind closed doors, corporations hand state legislators the changes to the law they desire that directly benefit their bottom line.”
ALEC Politicians (https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=ALEC_Politicians) : Legislators with ALEC Ties (https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=ALEC_Politicians#Legislators_with_ALEC_Ties)
ALEC "Scholars" (https://sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=ALEC_Board_of_Scholars) & also: “Scholars' Connections to Charles and David Koch”. (https://sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=ALEC_Board_of_Scholars#Scholars.27_Connections_to_Charles_and_David_Koch)
ALEC Boards & Task Forces (https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=ALEC_Boards_and_Task_Forces) , including: ALEC has nine task forces, each with a legislative and corporate chair. Below is a list of each task force, its co-chairs, and its corporate and political members (https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=ALEC_Boards_and_Task_Forces#ALEC_Task_Forces)
ALEC Staff (https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=ALEC_Staff) , one example: “Ronald Scheberle (https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Ronald_Scheberle) - Executive Director

Scheberle became executive director in January 2010. As stated in his biography on the ALEC website, he is "Chairman Emeritus of ALEC’s Private Enterprise Board. He has been an active private sector member of ALEC for over 25 years, serving as Private Enterprise Board National Chairman from 1988 to 1994 and as a member of ALEC’s Private Enterprise Board of Directors continuously since."<sup id="cite_ref-1">[2] (https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=ALEC_Staff#cite_note-1)</sup>
Scheberle is also a "senior consultant" at Bingham Consulting Group -- the lobbying arm of Bingham McCutchen (https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Bingham_McCutchen), a global law firm that represents corporate clients.<sup id="cite_ref-2">[3] (https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=ALEC_Staff#cite_note-2)”</sup>

More Information
ALEC FAQ (https://alecexposed.org/wiki/What_is_ALEC%3F)
ALEC Exposed Press Release (https://alecexposed.org/wiki/File:CMD_Unveils_Trove_of_Over_800_ALEC_%22Model_Bills%22_Secretly_Voted_On_By_Corporations.pdf)
ALEC Funding (https://www.prwatch.org/news/2011/07/10887/cmd-special-report-alecs-funding-and-spending)
ALEC Hotels (https://www.prwatch.org/news/2011/07/10877/alec-hotels)
ALEC Decoded (https://alecexposed.org/wiki/Decoding_ALEC_PR)
ALEC & NCSL Comparison (https://www.prwatch.org/news/2011/07/10882/comparison-alec-and-ncsl)
Common Cause Asks IRS to Audit ALEC (https://www.commoncause.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=dkLNK1MQIwG&b=4773613&ct=10902603)
Common Cause Study on ALEC Member Campaign Contributions (https://www.commoncause.org/atf/cf/%7Bfb3c17e2-cdd1-4df6-92be-bd4429893665%7D/MONEYPOWERANDALEC.PDF)
ProPublica's Database of ALEC Campaign Contributions (https://projects.propublica.org/alec-contributions/)



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</td> </tr> </tbody></table> I also want to note that the website that that I got information in the bottom box (“table”) from (https://www.sourcewatch.org/) has a huge amount of references to their claims.

Thad
08-31-2011, 02:07 PM
When Ronald (6 letters) Wilson (same)Reagan(same) was President I was sure it was the sign, 666 - The Mark of the Beast undeniable, The numbers of a man written in the fore head, there it was, and here it was, The Beast. Everything contrary to what a noble society would be about.

As I evolved I came to see that to any population over a certain size, it is inevitable that it begins taking on beastly attributes, and the longer it goes the more beastly it becomes.

Our political structure depends on an educated people to keep the above in check. Self gratification now becomes the greater god in the scheme of things by the powers that be, to keep education sidetracked and the values skewed, as the granulation of the human family turns into impotent nodes of powerless units.

The thing which makes people human is their social context they have in childhood and continue with in the course of their lives.

Today it is normal that people uproot their children from their friends so many times that a person freezes their heart and stops valuing friends like they did at first. Remember the battles your parents went through to get you to come home or to have your friend go home, imagine the world building from those first passions of how crucial people were to your happiness.

What replaces that?

Does changing any of our government change any of this?

Or would changing our world back to how we would have it as children, change our government?

If you want to do the big change imagine a sustained flash mob of slow moving caravans collecting and outfitting the homeless and disillusioned wending their way to the Supreme Court to answer the questions we have now "Who's country is this? Ours, or those who would turn the The Constitution into toilet paper

Can you imagine that media moment? How could you pay for that much advertising?





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Hotspring 44
08-31-2011, 04:07 PM
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The thing which makes people human is their social context they have in childhood and continue with in the course of their lives.

Today it is normal that people uproot their children from their friends so many times that a person freezes their heart and stops valuing friends like they did at first. Remember the battles your parents went through to get you to come home or to have your friend go home, imagine the world building from those first passions of how crucial people were to your happiness....

...What replaces that?...
That is a question that I think each individual would have to answer for themselves. For me, what few friends I have are “priceless”; there is no ‘replacement’.:heart:


...Does changing any of our government change any of this?
I don’t know for sure, but it’s worth a try.:thumbsup:


...Or would changing our world back to how we would have it as children, change our government?
:hmmm:"Back to"?...
...We, or at least I (was), were unaware of so many horrors that went (and go) on in the “adult” world that the perceptions we had would, in essence; be imaginary and not based in the “facts” which we were not aware of as children... ...In that case there is no real thing as “back to” in that context.


...If you want to do the big change imagine a sustained flash mob of slow moving caravans collecting and outfitting the homeless and disillusioned wending their way to the Supreme Court to answer the questions we have now "Who's country is this? Ours, or those who would turn the The Constitution into toilet paper

Can you imagine that media moment? How could you pay for that much advertising?

Unfortunately the media, industrial, complex would smear a movement like that and as a result; the participants of; would be conceptualized, categorized, and put into a box of "anti American", leftest, communists undermining the "fabric of America" and must be stopped!... (at \ [I]almost \ any cost) ...in the minds of the virtual "mob" ("sheepele":lalalala:) and as a result, be summarily arrested for vagrancy, or some other absurd excuse somewhere between CA and Delaware.:copcar: