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2Bwacco
07-05-2011, 03:16 PM
realizing there may not be much sympathy for Casey Anthony -- found NOT GUILTY this morning of murdering her two year old daughter, but there were very important issues at stake in her trial.

Attorney Cheney Mason joined the defense team as he saw the media bullying Jose Baez, and at closing press conference strongly addressed those matters. More to come on this and should be interesting.

Attorney Jose Baez spoke of his client's acquittal: "...Casey did not murder Caylee...It's that simple."

The prosecution's evidence presented at trial could not give a cause of death, date of death, nor place of death.

For all we know the poor little girl could have gotten up on a chair in the kitchen (to get to an upper cupboard), fallen, and fatally injured herself. She could have drowned in the family's swimming pool.

We do not know. Perhaps Casey knows, maybe George Anthony knows; no one is saying.

Murder convictions do not arise from speculation. We should all be grateful for that. Hope the family can heal.

Imagery
07-05-2011, 04:02 PM
That being said, how many counts did she get convicted on, of LYING to investigators? Given the right circumstances, nearly anyone can LIE their way out of a murder conviction. Of course, there is plenty of incompetence on the part of the prosecutors and the investigators too - plenty of blame to spread around.

2Bwacco
07-06-2011, 04:22 PM
not "blaming" here. I'm just concerned about how many citizens there wanted her convicted seemingly because they believe she killed her child. (The concept of innocent until proven guilty appears unknown.) Sure she lied - either consciousness of guilt or fright.

to me there still is a possibility it was a completely unforeseen, unpremeditated accident.

not an expert on child behavior, but in watching the brief videos on TV of this child she looks intelligent, precocious, surrounded by people that give her instructions (which at times she appears to follow faithfully, and at other times she appears to continue to do what she wants). Some of her movements look a little clumsy. There is a video of Caylee sitting in a nursing home setting (you can see a nurse at a medication station behind her) and she is pushed right up to the table in an adult chair -- it just looks like she is being contained as much as possible. (She also has a large "sippy" cup. Who gives a two year old 12 oz. of fluid?) Other videos show people picking her up, placing her, she wriggles out and walks away.

She also could have accidentally ingested medicine she found in the house: Casey's mother is a nurse.

She could have watched her mom put something away in a cupboard (something she wanted) and then tried to get it for herself.

Isn't there a parent out there that has given their child an instruction, they ignore it, then parent turns around to see that the child has moved out of sight, continuing on their quest...

Imagery
07-06-2011, 06:06 PM
How about the questions that will never be answered? How long did it take her to report her child missing? According to reports, it was a MONTH. Really? Good parents, parents who care about their small children, couldn't go more than an hour before calling police in a panic in order to report the child missing. Yet that doesn't meet the standards for felony child abuse/endangerment? Really?

She does have a Constitutional right against self-incrimination. She was found "Not Guilty" by a jury of her peers. That is a FAR CRY from INNOCENT. There, in my opinion, is a HUGE difference.

Oh, and "unforeseen incident"? Those are called accidents. They get reported to the police quite often, really. Accidents where a child gets possession of a gun in the house and shoots someone? Or other accidents? I can't remember any of those winding up with a victim stuffed in a plastic bag ending up in the swamp/trash/dump/etc.

2Bwacco
07-07-2011, 03:03 PM
the "talking heads" on "HLN" today were lawyers arguing to Judge Perry to RELEASE the Jurors' names!!! Tantamount to putting a bulls-eye on them all.

Somewhere i heard it said that Casey Anthony (Nancy Grace calls her "tot-mom") is "shallow." Makes sense: we have no idea the social context this woman, who was 19 years old when Caylee was born, grew up in. She obviously spent a lot of time partying in social contexts where there was a LOT of alcohol and most likely drugs; day and night.

Casey's parents appear to be hard-to-satisfy people: her mother a nurse, her father a police officer. They appear to reward a pretty girl over a smart one.

My non-nursing background in psychiatric units ("open" and "closed") gave me some insight into individuals with psychiatric problems. To me, it is amazing that people who have never spoken to this woman are calling her a sociopath, a psychopath, etc. etc.

It dawned on me she could have a multiple personality disorder. That would explain her borderline tendencies, narcissism, dis-association, stemming from her childhood abuse. The multiple personality disorder arises to protect the human psyche from events it cannot bear. This would explain her dis-association (not consciousness of guilt but unknown knowledge of guilt) upon seeing the horror of her child dead by an accidental fall or drowning.

She could have thought or she could have been told, "Oh my God! If I go to the police, they are going to accuse me of murdering her!" Hence, the disposal and cover-up. Casey doesn't seem that sophisticated, clever or organized to me. The disposal seems like the work of a police officer, someone familiar with forensics (i.e. her father).

Just a theory. Casey's defense team had wanted a mental defect ruling interjected in the trial at some point.