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Barry
07-05-2011, 02:04 PM
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The Mother of All No-Brainers
By DAVID BROOKS

The Republicans have changed American politics since they took control of the House of Representatives. They have put spending restraint and debt reduction at the top of the national agenda. They have sparked a discussion on entitlement reform. They have turned a bill to raise the debt limit into an opportunity to put the U.S. on a stable fiscal course.

Republican leaders have also proved to be effective negotiators. They have been tough and inflexible and forced the Democrats to come to them. The Democrats have agreed to tie budget cuts to the debt ceiling bill. They have agreed not to raise tax rates. They have agreed to a roughly 3-to-1 rate of spending cuts to revenue increases, an astonishing concession.

https://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/09/16/opinion/Brooks_New/Brooks_New-articleInline.jpgMoreover, many important Democrats are open to a truly large budget deal. President Obama has a strong incentive to reach a deal so he can campaign in 2012 as a moderate. The Senate majority leader, Harry Reid, has talked about supporting a debt reduction measure of $3 trillion or even $4 trillion if the Republicans meet him part way. There are Democrats in the White House and elsewhere who would be willing to accept Medicare cuts if the Republicans would be willing to increase revenues.

If the Republican Party were a normal party, it would take advantage of this amazing moment. It is being offered the deal of the century: trillions of dollars in spending cuts in exchange for a few hundred million dollars of revenue increases.

A normal Republican Party would seize the opportunity to put a long-term limit on the growth of government. It would seize the opportunity to put the country on a sound fiscal footing. It would seize the opportunity to do these things without putting any real crimp in economic growth.

The party is not being asked to raise marginal tax rates in a way that might pervert incentives. On the contrary, Republicans are merely being asked to close loopholes and eliminate tax expenditures that are themselves distortionary.

This, as I say, is the mother of all no-brainers.

But we can have no confidence that the Republicans will seize this opportunity. That’s because the Republican Party may no longer be a normal party. Over the past few years, it has been infected by a faction that is more of a psychological protest than a practical, governing alternative.

The members of this movement do not accept the logic of compromise, no matter how sweet the terms. If you ask them to raise taxes by an inch in order to cut government by a foot, they will say no. If you ask them to raise taxes by an inch to cut government by a yard, they will still say no.

The members of this movement do not accept the legitimacy of scholars and intellectual authorities. A thousand impartial experts may tell them that a default on the debt would have calamitous effects, far worse than raising tax revenues a bit. But the members of this movement refuse to believe it.

The members of this movement have no sense of moral decency. A nation makes a sacred pledge to pay the money back when it borrows money. But the members of this movement talk blandly of default and are willing to stain their nation’s honor.

The members of this movement have no economic theory worthy of the name. Economists have identified many factors that contribute to economic growth, ranging from the productivity of the work force to the share of private savings that is available for private investment. Tax levels matter, but they are far from the only or even the most important factor.

But to members of this movement, tax levels are everything. Members of this tendency have taken a small piece of economic policy and turned it into a sacred fixation. They are willing to cut education and research to preserve tax expenditures. Manufacturing employment is cratering even as output rises, but members of this movement somehow believe such problems can be addressed so long as they continue to worship their idol.

Over the past week, Democrats have stopped making concessions. They are coming to the conclusion that if the Republicans are fanatics then they better be fanatics, too.

The struggles of the next few weeks are about what sort of party the G.O.P. is — a normal conservative party or an odd protest movement that has separated itself from normal governance, the normal rules of evidence and the ancient habits of our nation.

If the debt ceiling talks fail, independents voters will see that Democrats were willing to compromise but Republicans were not. If responsible Republicans don’t take control, independents will conclude that Republican fanaticism caused this default. They will conclude that Republicans are not fit to govern.

And they will be right.

Speak2Truth
07-26-2011, 03:50 AM
Brooks has this horribly wrong.

This same pattern has been repeated ad nauseum. Government increases spending beyond its means. It insists it is only "fair" to seize more and more from the hard working American People to make up for this - and to borrow from nations that do not have our interests at heart, endangering our children's future.

For the first time in a long time, fiscal sanity may have crept into the picture. The current Republican Party is unlike any "normal" party. They're not willing to allow the mistakes of the past continue to propagate to cause even MORE of this trouble in another couple of years. AT SOME POINT this insanity must stop. If it is exacerbated by another debt limit increase, do we have any reason to believe the Democrats will halt their budget-busting programs of their own free will? No.

Even now, the Democrats propose creating new, expensive programs to further indebt our nation's children to our nation's enemies (such as China). A high speed train? Sure, that'll drive up the debt. Obamacare? Absolutely. Driving American oil production out of the Gulf of Mexico and inviting Brazil to come in to drill our oil off the coast of Louisiana? Already accomplished.

Democrats have been staunchly unwilling to show a little backbone and act in a fiscally responsible manner. At all levels of government, even here in Cotati, they have sought every means to cause bankruptcy. It is as if they are trying to crash America's economy.

Is that possible? What motive could they have to do such a thing?

Consider that the chief financier and controller of the Democrat Party, George Soros, is notorious for crashing the economies of several other nations. Well practiced at this, he and his minions have targeted the USA. As Soros said, the "managed decline" of the US dollar is "desirable".

George Soros is a big investor in that Brazilian oil company that Obama invited to the Gulf to take our oil. There's a couple of dots easy to connect.

The Democrat agenda is clearly NOT to suddenly change their ways and become fiscally responsible. They have not made the rather obvious agreements such as, "Okay, we'll scrap our wish list for the high speed rail and Obamacare and all the other fun stuff UNTIL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CAN AFFORD IT." That degree of rationality has no chance of entering into their agenda.

They claim the Republicans are being "extreme". Yet, all that has happened is that a group was elected by the American People to try to put a stop to the willful economic irresponsibility driving our nation down the path to ruin that has been blazed by so many others before us.

Business as usual, the "normal" way of doing things in Washington, has brought us to the brink of ruin. It must end. Now.

This is a matter of national survival.

mulhouse3
07-26-2011, 01:00 PM
The way to solvethis is to go where the money is. We have been so sheepish past 20 years taxing the rich, that now we are in this ever-ballooning debt habit pattern, or crisis. They the conservatives say we need to reduce the size of government, right on. It was about 700b under Nixon. Last year's budget was 3+tr? But at the same time they want to cut taxes, and make even greater deficits. Give them an inch, they take billions.
Businesses over 50 employees are under a lot of pressure, even demoralized. It costs too much to be in business. The professional fees and then healthcare costs will bury them. It is hardly worth trying, to make gross profit, much less net profit. There are plenty of businesses who know how to work the system, and make lots of 'bank'. So the president should just slap a 10% tax on any income over $80,000, no deductions, as payback for all this trouble. That would pay the deficit. Big earners can't really complain. There are great horror stories of broken and beat professional people, once flying high, now down to living on their meager savings! And what about the starving people of Somalia, and the poor unfortunates living under tyranny in Syria?... Oh that is too discouraging. That's a downer, cover my ears!

Speak2Truth
07-26-2011, 02:26 PM
When GW Bush entered office, it was in the midst of an economic recession. Democrats railed against his tax breaks for all, claiming that would push us to absolute economic ruin. However, reducing the amount of money seized from employers resulted in more employment and reduced the need for taxpayer subsidies to the unemployed. It worked.

Bush also ordered the Justice Department to investigate and prosecute corporate crooks including those at Enron, Tyco, Global Crossing and others. This had the effect of inhibiting schemes like lying to shareholders about earnings to glean fat bonuses while the company's finances were really hurting.

Before Democrats got control of Congress in the 2006 elections, unemployment was down to 4.6% and the economic picture was looking good even with the war spending. Corruption was being weeded out of the corporate world. Things were on the right path.

Democrats got control in 2007 and triggered their housing market collapse. They had been working to develop that for many years and it was convenient to trigger it during a Republican Administration to claim it had "happened on the Republican's watch". The truth is rather disgusting. Obama has been a key player in this scheme all along...

"Affirmative Action" forced on the home lenders by Clinton Administration, leading to eventual disaster
Video of Clinton's HUD Secretary boasting of victory in forcing lenders to comply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivmL-lXNy64

How banks were bullied into making bad loans
'Community activists' used pressure tactics to secure high-risk mortgages
https://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=94031

Obama, working with ACORN, Sued Citibank Under CRA to Force it to Make Bad Loans – UPDATED
https://iusbvision.wordpress.com/2008/09/30/obama-sued-citibank-under-cra-to-force-it-to-make-bad-loans/

Shocking Video Unearthed: Democrats in their own words Covering up the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Scam that caused our Economic Crisis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

Snopes: Bush Admin tried to rein in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Congressional Democrats, with Barney Frank as spokesman, thwarted the effort.
https://www.snopes.com/politics/business/easescredit.asp

After triggering their economic collapse, the Democrats DID THE OPPOSITE of what GW Bush did. They drove up taxation and regulation to take more and more money from private sector employers, putting more and more people on the tax-dependency rolls. Instead of prosecuting corporate crooks, they funneled our cash into the pockets of said crooks to keep them out of bankruptcy court where the truth about what had been done would be publicly exposed. Obama went so far as to reward one of those corporate crooks, Rahm Emanuel, with a position as Chief of Staff in the White House.

Rahm Emanuel on Board of Freddie Mac
Misreported profits by billions of dollars in order to deceive investors between the years 2000 and 2002
https://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2008/11/new-obama-chief-of-staff-others-on.html

He's also cutting in another top crook, the CEO of Fannie Mae, on the new Carbon Tax and Wealth Redistribution Scheme:

Franklin Raines holds patent for carbon trading, stands to make millions from Obama Cap 'n Trade
Engaged in fraudulent accounting at Fannie Mae to pocket $90 million in bonuses
https://www.wnd.com/?pageId=168077

Why are these guys not in prison, where Bush was putting such scumbags? Because a fellow scumbag is running the show.

With crooks running the country, unemployment has skyrocketed, our hard-earned cash has been seized and redistributed to corporate crooks to keep them away from the Justice System, GM was nationalized then ownership illegally transferred from its shareholders to the union that did it part to drag the company down in the first place... these Fascists are quite happy to seize and redistribute other people's stuff to reward their loyalists.

By DOING THE OPPOSITE of what GW Bush did, the Obama Administration has ACHIEVED THE OPPOSITE RESULTS.

And the no-brainers will probably vote for him again.