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Zeno Swijtink
06-12-2011, 10:10 PM
My friend wrote me: "A view from outside the bubble; this is how we look to those who care about us, but are not us. We have two choices: continue this downward slide or create a new life-affirming and compassionate model that recognizes all life is inter-connected and interdependent, and places our national health first and corporate profits second."

Finance. Money Creation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_creation). Transition Sebastopol could take on educating us about how money is created.

Local currency is just a tiny part of the answer.The People should take back the authority to create Credit and Money.

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Decline and Fall of the American Empire (https://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/jun/06/us-economy-decline-recovery-challenges)
LARRY ELLIOTT, Economics Editor - The Guardian (U.K.)
The economic powerhouse of the 20th century emerged stronger from the Depression. But faced with cultural decay, structural weaknesses and reliance on finance, can the US do it again?


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Dust-bowl refugees walk towards Los Angeles during the Great Depression. House prices have now fallen further than in the 1930s. Photograph: Bettmann/Corbis


America clocked up a record last week. The latest drop in house prices meant that the cost of real estate has fallen by 33% since the peak – even bigger than the 31% slide seen when John Steinbeck was writing The Grapes of Wrath.

Unemployment has not returned to Great Depression levels but at 9.1% of the workforce it is still at levels that will have nerves jangling in the White House. The last president to be re-elected with unemployment above 7.2% was Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

The US is a country with serious problems. Getting on for one in six depend on government food stamps to ensure they have enough to eat. The budget, which was in surplus little more than a decade ago, now has a deficit of Greek-style proportions. There is policy paralysis in Washington.

The assumption is that the problems can be easily solved because the US is the biggest economy on the planet, the only country with global military reach, the lucky possessor of the world's reserve currency, and a nation with a proud record of re-inventing itself once in every generation or so.

All this is true and more. US universities are superb, attracting the best brains from around the world. It is a country that pushes the frontiers of technology. So, it may be that the US is about to emerge stronger than ever from the long nightmare of the sub-prime mortgage crisis. The strong financial position of American companies could unleash a wave of new investment over the next couple of years.

Let me put an alternative hypothesis. America in 2011 is Rome in 200AD or Britain on the eve of the first world war: an empire at the zenith of its power but with cracks beginning to show.

The experience of both Rome and Britain suggests that it is hard to stop the rot once it has set in, so here are the a few of the warning signs of trouble ahead: military overstretch, a widening gulf between rich and poor, a hollowed-out economy, citizens using debt to live beyond their means, and once-effective policies no longer working. The high levels of violent crime, epidemic of obesity, addiction to pornography and excessive use of energy may be telling us something: the US is in an advanced state of cultural decadence.

Empires decline for many different reasons but certain factors recur. There is an initial reluctance to admit that there is much to fret about, and there is the arrival of a challenger (or several challengers) to the settled international order. In Spain's case, the rival was Britain. In Britain's case, it was America. In America's case, the threat comes from China.

Britain's decline was extremely rapid after 1914. By 1945, the UK was a bit player in the bipolar world dominated by the US and the Soviet Union, and sterling – the heart of the 19th-century gold standard – was rapidly losing its lustre as a reserve currency. There had been concerns, voiced as far back as the 1851 Great Exhibition, that the hungrier, more efficient producers in Germany and the US threatened Britain's industrial hegemony. But no serious policy action was taken. In the second half of the 19th century there was a subtle shift in the economy, from the north of England to the south, from manufacturing to finance, from making things to living off investment income. By 1914, the writing was on the wall.

In two important respects, the US today differs from Britain a century ago. It is much bigger, which means that it benefits from continent-wide economies of scale, and it has a presence in the industries that will be strategically important in the first half of the 21st century. Britain in 1914 was over-reliant on coal and shipbuilding, industries that struggled between the world wars, and had failed to grasp early enough the importance of emerging new technologies.

Even so, there are parallels. There has been a long-term shift of emphasis in the US economy away from manufacturing and towards finance. There is a growing challenge from producers in other parts of the world.
Frenzy

Now consider the stark contrast between this economic recovery and the pattern of previous cycles. Traditionally, a US economic recovery sees unemployment coming down smartly as lower interest rates encourage consumers to spend and the construction industry to build more homes. This time, it has been different. There was a building frenzy during the bubble years, which left an overhang of supply even before plunging prices and rising unemployment led to a blitz of foreclosures.

America has more homes than it knows what to do with, and that state of affairs is not going to change for years.

Over the past couple of months, there has been a steady drip-feed of poor economic news that has dented hopes of a sustained recovery. Optimism has now been replaced by concern that the United States could be heading for the dreaded double-dip recession.

In the real estate market, which is the symptom of America's deep-seated economic malaise, the double dip has already arrived. Tax breaks to homeowners provided only a temporary respite for a falling market and millions of Americans are living in homes worth less than they paid for them. The latest figures show that more than 28% of homes with a mortgage are in negative equity. Unsurprisingly, that has made Americans far more cautious about spending money. Rising commodity prices exacerbate the problem, since they push up inflation and reduce the spending power of wages and salaries.

Macro-economic policy has proved less effective than normal. That's not for want of trying, though. The US has had zero short-term interest rates for well over two years. It has had two big doses of quantitative easing, the second of which is now ending. Its budget deficit is so big it has led to warnings from the credit-rating agencies, in spite of the dollar's reserve currency status. And Washington has adopted a policy of benign neglect towards the currency, despite the strong-dollar rhetoric, in the hope that cheaper exports will make up for the squeeze on consumer spending.

Policy, as ever, is geared towards growth because the great existential fear of the Fed, the Treasury and whoever occupies the White House is a return to the 1930s. Back then, the economic malaise could be largely attributed to deflationary economic policies that deepened the recession caused by the popping of the 1920s stock market bubble. The feeble response to today's growth medicine suggests that the US is structurally far weaker than it was in the 1930s. Tackling these weaknesses will require breaking finance's stranglehold over the economy and measures to boost ordinary families' spending power and so cut their reliance on debt. It will require an amnesty for the housing market. Above all, America must rediscover the qualities that originally made it great. That will not be easy.

podfish
06-14-2011, 08:41 AM
... We have two choices: continue this downward slide or create a new life-affirming and compassionate model that recognizes all life is inter-connected and interdependent, and places our national health first and corporate profits second.".....

hard to stop the rot once it has set in, so here are the a few of the warning signs of trouble ahead: military overstretch, a widening gulf between rich and poor, a hollowed-out economy, citizens using debt to live beyond their means, and once-effective policies no longer working. The high levels of violent crime, epidemic of obesity, addiction to pornography and excessive use of energy may be telling us something: the US is in an advanced state of cultural decadence.
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. Above all, America must rediscover the qualities that originally made it great. That will not be easy.
man, I must be extra crochity these days. The tone of that just rings really false, though oddly enough I agree with its observations.
Yeah, I'm sure our addiction to pornography is gonna bring us all down in the end. And that decadence thing is really bad for us too. If only someone would tell me when we all lived under a life-affirming, compassionate model, which was when we showed those qualities that made us great, then I'd sure try to live just like that!!
I suspect it's simpler; the pendulum's back where the rich have the same level of control of society that they did during the Plantagenet days in England, disruptive technologies have stressed the economic system to the point where it's starting to show severe cracks, the Pacific and Atlantic oceans aren't as effective insulators from the rest of the world as they once were. We could all be good & wholesome folks - that'd be kinda nice (I think...) and it would probably help with some things, but those other forces would still be there.

Star Man
06-14-2011, 08:24 PM
[QUOTE=Zeno Swijtink;135814]My friend wrote me: "A view from outside the bubble; this is how we look to those who care about us, but are not us. We have two choices: continue this downward slide or create a new life-affirming and compassionate model that recognizes all life is inter-connected and interdependent, and places our national health first and corporate profits second."

Finance. Money Creation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_creation). Transition Sebastopol could take on educating us about how money is created.

Local currency is just a tiny part of the answer.The People should take back the authority to create Credit and Money.

***
Decline and Fall of the American Empire (https://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/jun/06/us-economy-decline-recovery-challenges)
LARRY ELLIOTT, Economics Editor - The Guardian (U.K.)
The economic powerhouse of the 20th century emerged stronger from the Depression. But faced with cultural decay, structural weaknesses and reliance on finance, can the US do it again?


Hello, Zeno, and thanks for posting Larry Elliott's excellent deconstruction of the fall of the American empire. You write that we citizens need to be educated about how money is created and then you suggest we should take back the authority to create credit and money.

Zeno, the creation of a money economy and then the creation of credit are the basic causes of our cultural decay and structural weaknesses. Credit and its manipulation are what have created the wealth disparity between the top 1% of Americans and the rest of us. Credit and its manipulation are the causes of the housing bubble and its explosion. Credit and its creation are the basis for NAFTA and the off-shoring of U.S. jobs that have ruined our economy and are destroying the middle class. The manipulation of credit lies beneath Tea Party Republican attempts to destroy unions and wreck Medicare. The Koch brothers have amassed billions through manipulation of credit.

Zeno, I strongly suggest that Transitions Sebastopol create a Time Bank and that we citizens of this bioregion begin to trade in time dollars. You can read about time banking at <cite>www.timebank (https://www.%3Cb%3Etimebank%3C/b%3E)s.org/</cite> Time banking creates social change. Time dollars cannot be invested and cannot earn interest. Time banking creates equality because 1 hour of any person's time is worth exactly the same -- one time dollar -- as one hour of any other person's time. Doctor or ditch-digger, it doesn't make any difference.

In order to take back our nation from the banksters who have gutted it, we need to dismantle the system of money creation and credit manipulation that the banksters have used to hijack us. Time dollars and time banking is the way to do it.

Dixon
06-17-2011, 05:46 PM
Yeah, I'm sure our addiction to pornography is gonna bring us all down in the end.
Yeah, podster, That's exactly what went through my mind when I read that, too! He lists porn addiction https://www.frontiernet.net/%7Ejimdandy/specials/onedayatatime/tounge.gif along with high levels of violent crime, the epidemic of obesity, and excessive use of energy!? :wtf:

Forget about war, pollution, resource depletion, global warming, and the occasional planet-hammering asteroid--our real downfall is porn addiction! :Dominatrix: We're all gonna masturbate uncontrollably, "wrestling the python" or "patting the robertson" and spewing our precious bodily fluids until we keel over dead from dehydration and malnutrition. We shall overcum! :banana:

And his comment about "...high levels of violent crime"--when are people gonna get it through their heads that violent crime (not counting war crimes) has been decreasing pretty steadily for decades? It just seems like higher levels because the corporate "news" plays the hell out of anything titillating like rapes or murders. As they say: "If it bleeds, it leads". Of course, I guess the USA does still have a high rate of violent crimes compared to many (most?) countries...:Ball kicker:

podfish
06-17-2011, 05:59 PM
.. his comment about "...high levels of violent crime"--when are people gonna get it through their heads that violent crime (not counting war crimes) has been decreasing pretty steadily for decades? I yeah, the problem is that "common sense" is strong and numbers don't really trump it too much. By the way, I acknowledge this has an uneasy co-existence with my other recent theme of respecting the observations and rationality of the average joe... but I'm not plagued by hobgoblins. It's pretty apparent that there are a lot of bad trends in society, (though there is a wide range of opinions about which trends qualify) and there are a lot of people willing to do bad things. It seems pretty natural to lump them all under a common blanket.


I do like to torture cliches, metaphors and similes, don't I? Sorry.... no english teachers here in the interwebs.