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Glia
05-10-2011, 12:35 PM
It's probably your male partner's amputated foreskin. Let Marilyn and Christiane explain:

Marilyn's visual explanation of the difference in function between intact and surgically altered manhoods:

https://youtu.be/BgoTRMKrJo4


And Dr. Christiane Northrup gives us the rest of the story:


https://mensightmagazine.com/images/lovecirc.gif

HOW MALE CIRCUMCISION MAY BE AFFECTING YOUR LOVE LIFE
By Dr. Christine Northrup (https://www.drnorthrup.com/) © 2004


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The Pleasures of Natural Sex
I've always felt that the male foreskin, one of most richly innervated and hyperelastic pieces of tissue in the male body, is there for a reason. Until recently, I didn't know exactly what that reason was. But now, thanks to Kristen O'Hara's well-researched book, Sex as Nature Intended It (https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0970044208/ref=ase_themenscente/102-7088599-1924929?v=glance&s=books), I finally understand the reasons for the design of the penis and foreskin and how this design ensures optimal penile function, including this organ's ability to satisfy the female sexually. Most American women have not personally experienced the sensation of sex with an uncircumcised man because the majority of men in this country, especially those born before 1980, have been circumcised. But Kristen O'Hara's long-ago affair with an uncircumcised man was the spark that touched off years of research, the result of which is her eye-opening book. Consider the following:
The primary pleasure zones of the natural (uncircumcised) penis are located in the upper penis, which includes the penis head, the foreskin's inner lining, and the frenulum--the hinge of skin that connects the foreskin to the head of the penis. When a male is circumcised, some of the most erotically sensitive areas of the penis are removed: the foreskin that normally covers the head of the penis (the glans) and some or all of the frenulum.

The frenulum contains high concentrations of nerve endings that are sensitive to fine touch. The glans was designed by nature to be covered all the time except during sexual activity. Upon erection, both foreskin layers unfold onto the upper penile shaft, leaving the highly innervated frenulum, glans, and inner lining exposed and readied for sexual activity. This is one of reasons why the penile tip is the focus of sexual excitement.
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The Sexual Consequences of Male Circumcision
After circumcision, the exposed head of the penis thickens like a callus and becomes less sensitive. And because erotically sensitive areas of the penis have been removed, the circumcised penis must thrust more vigorously with a much longer stroke in order to reach orgasm through stimulating the less sensitive penile shaft. In her study of women who have had sexual experiences with both natural and circumcised men, O'Hara notes that respondents overwhelmingly concurred that the mechanics of coitus were different for the two groups of men. Seventy-three percent of the women reported that circumcised men tended to thrust harder, using elongated strokes; while uncircumcised men tended to thrust more gently, to have shorter strokes, and to maintain more contact between the mons pubis and clitoris.

O'Hara's research makes the following sexual comparisons between the natural and circumcised penis.
The natural penis may be more comfortable for the vagina than the circumcised penis. The coronal ridge of the natural penis is more flexible; O'Hara likens it to the resiliency of Jell-O. The circumcised penile head is considerably harder--overly firm and compacted like an unripe tomato. This is because circumcision cuts away 33-50 percent of penile skin. As a result, the skin of the penile shaft can get stretched so tightly during an erection that it pulls down on the skin covering the glans, compressing the tissue of the penis head. The abnormally hardened coronal ridge can then be very uncomfortable to vaginal tissue during intercourse.

Women sometimes experience a scraping feeling with each outward stroke and even report discomfort after intercourse or even the next day. The brain makes pain-relieving endorphins that may partially block any discomfort during intercourse itself. As a gynecologist, I can tell you that painful intercourse is a very common symptom in women, many of whom blame themselves or who feel that something is wrong with their sexual response.

The give of the natural penis, by contrast, allows for more bend and flex of the organ in the vagina, adding to a woman's pleasure and comfort. The abundant skin of the natural penile shaft further cushions the force of the coronal ridge in the vagina. In addition, the mobile skin of the penis is "grasped" by the ridges of the vaginal mucosa and held in place. The bunching and unbunching of penile skin during intercourse enhances a man's pleasure, but it also excites the woman. As one of O'Hara s survey respondents reported: "What I noticed was that my natural man got a lot of pleasure from deliberate, slow insertion and backing out because his foreskin would fold back and forth, which would excite me also."

Circumcised sex may cause the vagina to abnormally tense up and decrease its lubrication. Women report more problems with lubrication when having sex with circumcised men, possibly because of irritation from the harder tip and involuntary tensing against it, and also because the longer stroke length tends to remove lubrication from the vagina. Often an artificial lubricant is necessary.
Intercourse may also be painful for the circumcised man because his penis scrapes against the ribbed structure of tensed-up vaginal walls and becomes over stimulated from constant pressure. The degree of discomfort, if any, will depend upon the tightness of the man's shaft skin, the vigor of his thrusting, the duration of intercourse, and the amount of lubrication.

Circumcision may cause a man to work harder to achieve orgasm, resulting in emotional and physical distancing from his partner. When a circumcised man has sex, he may have to concentrate intensely on the erotic sensations he is receiving while simultaneously blocking out any uncomfortable sensations. Survey respondents often reported that their circumcised partners seemed to have to work too hard to achieve orgasm. And because of the erotic tissue that has been removed, he can't enjoy the sensations leading up to orgasm or his partner's responses.

O'Hara makes a compelling argument that circumcised intercourse may frustrate the primordial subconscious that seems to know "real sex ain't this way." She also suggests that each circumcised experience has the potential to buildup negative memory imprints so that over time, repeated sexual encounters with the same partner may lead to negative feelings between the two that carry over into everyday life. If this sounds like an extraordinary leap, consider the question that O'Hara asks in her book: "Other things being equal, which couple is more likely to stay together--one enjoying delicious, satisfying sex or one whose sexual pleasure is being compromised in many ways?"

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read the entire article at https://mensightmagazine.com/Articles/Northrup/lovecirc.htm

Braggi
05-11-2011, 12:18 PM
... "Other things being equal, which couple is more likely to stay together--one enjoying delicious, satisfying sex or one whose sexual pleasure is being compromised in many ways?" ... ]

I certainly get the message but, intact or not intact, delicious, satisfying sex is possible.

Just wanted to say ...

-Jeff

Glia
05-11-2011, 12:40 PM
Well, that's not been my experience, but it's SO MUCH EASIER when the equipment is all there and functioning the way it is supposed to!

The point is that this senseless, elective, unethical cosmetic surgery on boys' penises causes a whole bunch of trouble for the men that they become and their female lovers, especially in middle age and beyond. It is 100% avoidable misery and reduction in quality of life. We need to stop amputating foreskins -- by anybody for any reason.


I certainly get the message but, intact or not intact, delicious, satisfying sex is possible.

Just wanted to say ...

-Jeff

Braggi
05-11-2011, 01:18 PM
Well, that's not been my experience, but it's SO MUCH EASIER when the equipment is all there and functioning the way it is supposed to! ...

Obviously you and I need to get together and do some research.

-Jeff

Glia
05-11-2011, 06:10 PM
Heh heh heh... maybe we could find a homeopathic remedy and a stem-cell treatment that could grow that thing back! :thumbsup:


Obviously you and I need to get together and do some research.

-Jeff

Braggi
05-11-2011, 08:37 PM
... grow that thing back! :thumbsup:

https://www.wikihow.com/Re-Grow-a-Foreskin

-Jeff

PS. We'll need to do before and after tests.

Glia
05-11-2011, 11:20 PM
Excellent site and article! NORM has good info too.

Apparently before and after photographs are recommended as well. Big Smile


https://www.wikihow.com/Re-Grow-a-Foreskin

-Jeff

PS. We'll need to do before and after tests.

Dixon
05-12-2011, 03:29 AM
My mother and I have our differences, but here's one thing I'll always love her for: even though she was just a 16-year-old farm girl when she had me, she resisted pressure to have me circumcised and saved my cock! I love ya, Mom!