video: On the Edge with Max Keiser. A call for help here. Please watch.
On the Edge with Max Keiser & Damon Vrabel American Everyman (https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2010/07/12/on-the-edge-with-max-keiser-damon-vrabel/)
(It is easier to stop a fascist takeover than it is to reverse one. Please remember that we got to this point with the complicity of congress. Please do not vote for an incumbent. We have to start somewhere. We cannot keep re-electing the very group we are paying handsomely to commit treason - to refuse to uphold the oath of office, to refuse to uphold the constitution. It is not possible to be in such dire straits as we are now if we had a congressional body who honored the constitution and the citizens rather than corporations and re-election.
We have a small window of time to reap the wisdom from our mistakes or we will pay for our complacency with freedom and possibly our lives. Heavy words, but - "the beginning of wisdom is to call things by their right names"
thank you and very best to us all.)
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"Mad" Miles
07-12-2010, 01:35 PM
[quote=pnicholson;118151]... Please do not vote for an incumbent. We have to start somewhere. ...quote]
This whole "burn it down and rebuild from the ground up" push to get rid of every sitting representative, is one of the dumbest campaigns to come down the pike. And it seems to have ground swell based on the polling news and letters to the Editor in the PD.
Anybody remember the push for term limits? After it passed it's made a huge difference right? Things run much smoother in the Assembly and State Senate, right?
Flushing politicians with known track records, who have had the time to learn the ropes and create alliances that allow them to get things done, is stupid.
I'm all for voting out the incompetent, the corrupt, the ideologically discredited. But claiming that every single elected politician is the source of our problems? Displays a complete lack of critical thinking.
There are some elected reps who have shown their commitment to the interests of their constituents. Noreen Evans, Wes Chesbro, Lynn Woolsey (yeah, I know, she won't condemn Israel, good luck to her future electability if she did, and I'm a critic of Israel!) are some of the local ones that come to mind.
Do you really want people aligned with the "philosophy" of the Tea Party running things? Really?
Hey, let's get traditional and bring back the "Know Nothing" Party! They had a platform that resonates with the new conservative populism. Drive out the new immigrants, get rid of corruption, nativists rule!
The "Trail of Tears" was social justice!!!
It's those Catholics with their allegiance to a foreign king who are responsible for all our troubles.
Drive the heathen spawn of Satan from the land that they don't know how to properly exploit. God wills it!
The Irish are lazy, corrupt, dirty, criminal and the scum of the earth, send them back to starve in the Potato Famine!
Aahhhh, Tradition.
It all makes sense to me, how about you?
pnicholson
07-12-2010, 03:39 PM
not really.
but how did you like the videos?
This whole "burn it down and rebuild from the ground up" push to get rid of every sitting representative, is one of the dumbest campaigns to come down the pike. ...Do you really want people aligned with the "philosophy" of the Tea Party running things? Really?...It all makes sense to me, how about you?
"Mad" Miles
07-12-2010, 04:07 PM
but how did you like the videos?
I rarely watch videos on the internet. My approach to gathering information here is text based. Quicker access, more compact, easier to absorb. I watch plenty of cable TV but it's not where I source my political information, other than "The Daily Show".
My response was to the call to vote out all incumbants. As if that's going to make any difference other than to put a bunch of unknown, naifs, into office, all facing a steep learning curve before they're able to do their jobs. Bad as things are, it makes no sense to me. Hence my rant.
Keep up the good fight, but don't expect me to spend time delving into the complaints of others who don't provide their views in a readily accessible package. I checked out their website in response to your question. Saw a lot of commentary about big banks. Probably some good stuff there. But they need to cut to the chase.
I quit reading The Nation, In These Times, Z Magazine, and other left periodicals back in the nineties. It was taking a lot of time, and other than details I'd mostly gleaned from the daily paper, their analysis only duplicated what I'd already done on my own.
Once you know how to read between the lines, question the motivations of the powerful, and interpret the details in the context of our global economic system and culture, most of what commentators have to say, depending on their ideological presuppositions, is fairly predictable.
I'm always willing to be surprised, but I figure if somebody is genuinely new in their approach to analysing the world around us, they will probably make enough of a splash to get noticed.
I keep my ear to the ground via the political lists that I moderate (and others contibute to) and my daily reading of Slate.com and Dissident Voice. The first as a representative of the mainstream. The second representing Left Radical sources. Anything the Right has to say, that is unprecedented, tends to get mentioned here, by some waccobb.net subscribers, or is being responded to in those other venues.
That's my approach, and I'm sticking to it. Five to seven hours online every day means I read a lot of stuff. Given the information glut made possible by this medium, I have to ration my time, and look for new developments where I think they're most likely to show up, and where they're most easily accessed.
Videos haven't proven themselves as the best source. The signal to noise ratio is weighted towards noise. I love the medium, but there's so much out there, I prefer written summaries. In the end give me written text on a page, over a talking head, any day. Unless of course we're sitting in the same room, and can have a true face to face dialog.
pnicholson
07-12-2010, 05:14 PM
hey mad miles.
thanks for responding. i feel like i know you a little bit now.
i get annoyed and frustrated too. my feeling is that we all do things in at least slightly different ways. areas of interest vary, we choose our own battles, we follow our own truths and change them if need be. so i figure, say, 100,000 people who are astute and concerned should have pretty much all known bases covered. if those 100,000 people keep moving forward with the intention of clarity, peace, freedom, and you take into account the universal mind connection, anything is possible. and everyone is non-expendable. well, pretty much.
i hope that makes sense to you. i think it is the best i can do right now. it is so beautiful outside i can no longer bear to be indoors! i am going to walk my dog. maybe you should be outside for a while, too. take a break. this is hard work and the sun is shining.
i wish the best for us all. nice to meet you and i am glad you are here.
race you to the door.......
I rarely watch videos on the internet. ...Keep up the good fight, ...I prefer written summaries. In the end give me written text on a page, over a talking head, any day. Unless of course we're sitting in the same room, and can have a true face to face dialog.
"Mad" Miles
07-12-2010, 10:24 PM
pnicholson,
Sweet! Although it's dark now.
I think of my activism as similar to a drop in the ocean. I don't expect results, but I know I'm part of a process, a tradition of resistance, that has produced results.
We're all in this together.
Let's hope reason, consciousness, intention and our active role has results.
But I'm not invested in results. It's the process that matters.
And if it doesn't, at least we can say we tried!
pnicholson
07-12-2010, 11:58 PM
that's okay. tomorrow will be a beautiful day, too.
a noble balance:
gandhi's 'satya graha' - hold to the truth.
and
be willing to agree to disagree.
simple.
that we are all in this together is important, i think, to understand because that necessarily includes all the bad guys. all the worst tyrannical dictators and murderers and pedophile priests anyone can think of. even god forbid john o'reilly.(no offense to his fans) we are all in this together. and i'm sometimes optimistic.
it's dark here too. and late. so gute nacht to everyone.
i hope tomorrow brings a higher vibration.
...We're all in this together. ...It's the process that matters....And if it doesn't, at least we can say we tried!
Thad
07-13-2010, 12:06 AM
Beware those with much to say of everything but nothing new to do.
...a noble balance:
gandhi's 'satya graha' - hold to the truth.
and
be willing to agree to disagree.
simple.
that we are all in this together is important,...and i'm sometimes optimistic...
pnicholson
07-13-2010, 12:24 AM
thank you, thad for the gratitude and thank you for watching the always lovely max keiser.
wise words. i will take them to heart.
now i am going to bed for real.
Beware those with much to say of everything but nothing new to do.
podfish
07-13-2010, 09:53 AM
a long time ago an engineer I know said that usually you have two choices in your business partners - those who will screw you by accident, and those who will screw you on purpose. He said always choose the one who will screw you on purpose, because at least you can make some kind of a deal with them.
A friend whose work requires him to deal with the state legislature told me that it's a lot worse now with term limits. He's always been a critic of politicians, and feels that they're pretty much by definition corrupt, but that now the checks & balances are gone. Industry's writing the laws because no-one in elected office has the history and background to know how to do it themselves. The scales are tipped way toward the pros in government, and now the elected guys are amateurs. The only pros left are the lobbyists.
This whole "burn it down and rebuild from the ground up" push to get rid of every sitting representative, is one of the dumbest campaigns to come down the pike.... ... Flushing politicians with known track records, who have had the time to learn the ropes and create alliances that allow them to get things done, is stupid.....