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Zeno Swijtink
05-11-2010, 08:47 AM
'Starving Yogi' Astounds Indian Scientists (https://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.ce6e076d355a498ef621bad2bbef1a32.f1&show_article=1)
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An 83-year-old Indian holy man who says he has spent seven decades without food or water has astounded a team of military doctors who studied him during a two-week observation period.

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Indian holy man Prahlad Jani speaks at a press conference at a hospital in Ahmedbad on May 6. Jani, who says he has spent seven decades without food or water, has astounded a team of military doctors who studied him during a two-week observation period.

Prahlad Jani spent a fortnight in a hospital in the western India state of Gujarat under constant surveillance from a team of 30 medics equipped with cameras and closed circuit television.

During the period, he neither ate nor drank and did not go to the toilet.

"We still do not know how he survives," neurologist Sudhir Shah told reporters after the end of the experiment. "It is still a mystery what kind of phenomenon this is."

The long-haired and bearded yogi was sealed in a hospital in the city of Ahmedabad in a study initiated by India's Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), the state defence and military research institute.

The DRDO hopes that the findings, set to be released in greater detail in several months, could help soldiers survive without food and drink, assist astronauts or even save the lives of people trapped in natural disasters.

"(Jani's) only contact with any kind of fluid was during gargling and bathing periodically during the period," G. Ilavazahagan, director of India's Defence Institute of Physiology and Allied Sciences (DIPAS), said in a statement.

Jani has since returned to his village near Ambaji in northern Gujarat where he will resume his routine of yoga and meditation. He says that he was blessed by a goddess at a young age, which gave him special powers.

During the 15-day observation, which ended on Thursday, the doctors took scans of Jani's organs, brain, and blood vessels, as well as doing tests on his heart, lungs and memory capacity.

"The reports were all in the pre-determined safety range through the observation period," Shah told reporters at a press conference last week.

Other results from DNA analysis, molecular biological studies and tests on his hormones, enzymes, energy metabolism and genes will take months to come through.

"If Jani does not derive energy from food and water, he must be doing that from energy sources around him, sunlight being one," said Shah.

"As medical practitioners we cannot shut our eyes to possibilities, to a source of energy other than calories."

Debunker
05-11-2010, 12:51 PM
I see nothing astounding about this. 14 days is the upper limit that healthy humans can survive without water, and, he was in a temperature controlled room with all the comforts, and 'gargled' and bathed during the two weeks. So, we'll just have to take his word that he didn't swallow any. As for bathing, yogis are known for "Jala basti", the practice of sucking water into the anus. Was this guy sitting in water for his baths? The article doesn't say.

Had he gone two weeks more, without "gargling" or "bathing", now that would be astounding.



'Starving Yogi' Astounds Indian Scientists (https://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.ce6e076d355a498ef621bad2bbef1a32.f1&show_article=1)
Agence France-Presse (France)


An 83-year-old Indian holy man who says he has spent seven decades without food or water has astounded a team of military doctors who studied him during a two-week observation period.

https://img.breitbart.com/images/2010/5/9/CNG.ce6e076d355a498ef621bad2bbef1a32.f1/photo_1273474258687-1-1.jpg
Indian holy man Prahlad Jani speaks at a press conference at a hospital in Ahmedbad on May 6. Jani, who says he has spent seven decades without food or water, has astounded a team of military doctors who studied him during a two-week observation period.

Prahlad Jani spent a fortnight in a hospital in the western India state of Gujarat under constant surveillance from a team of 30 medics equipped with cameras and closed circuit television.

During the period, he neither ate nor drank and did not go to the toilet.

"We still do not know how he survives," neurologist Sudhir Shah told reporters after the end of the experiment. "It is still a mystery what kind of phenomenon this is."

The long-haired and bearded yogi was sealed in a hospital in the city of Ahmedabad in a study initiated by India's Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), the state defence and military research institute.

The DRDO hopes that the findings, set to be released in greater detail in several months, could help soldiers survive without food and drink, assist astronauts or even save the lives of people trapped in natural disasters.

"(Jani's) only contact with any kind of fluid was during gargling and bathing periodically during the period," G. Ilavazahagan, director of India's Defence Institute of Physiology and Allied Sciences (DIPAS), said in a statement.

Jani has since returned to his village near Ambaji in northern Gujarat where he will resume his routine of yoga and meditation. He says that he was blessed by a goddess at a young age, which gave him special powers.

During the 15-day observation, which ended on Thursday, the doctors took scans of Jani's organs, brain, and blood vessels, as well as doing tests on his heart, lungs and memory capacity.

"The reports were all in the pre-determined safety range through the observation period," Shah told reporters at a press conference last week.

Other results from DNA analysis, molecular biological studies and tests on his hormones, enzymes, energy metabolism and genes will take months to come through.

"If Jani does not derive energy from food and water, he must be doing that from energy sources around him, sunlight being one," said Shah.

"As medical practitioners we cannot shut our eyes to possibilities, to a source of energy other than calories."

pbrinton
05-12-2010, 10:45 AM
I would like to know whether or not he maintained his body weight during the period. This is not mentioned in the article, though it would be an obvious metric. I would think that two weeks on water alone (taken either end) would normally result in weight loss, even in a sedentary person, so if he indeed maintained his weight it would be strong evidence that something unusual was happening. A study has shown that a yogi was able to regulate his body temperature under laboratory conditions:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleListURL&_method=list&_ArticleListID=1332980019&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=bda1632a2eed87eee0a755a02802cc71

Patrick Brinton


I see nothing astounding about this. 14 days is the upper limit that healthy humans can survive without water, and, he was in a temperature controlled room with all the comforts, and 'gargled' and bathed during the two weeks. So, we'll just have to take his word that he didn't swallow any. As for bathing, yogis are known for "Jala basti", the practice of sucking water into the anus. Was this guy sitting in water for his baths? The article doesn't say.

Had he gone two weeks more, without "gargling" or "bathing", now that would be astounding.

Debunker
05-12-2010, 11:16 AM
Good point. The article offers just about no information, and lots of sensationalism supporting its premise.

Yogis have been shown to have extraordinary control over bodily functions, but that's quite different than claiming he's gone 70 years without food or water.


I would like to know whether or not he maintained his body weight during the period. This is not mentioned in the article, though it would be an obvious metric. I would think that two weeks on water alone (taken either end) would normally result in weight loss, even in a sedentary person, so if he indeed maintained his weight it would be strong evidence that something unusual was happening. A study has shown that a yogi was able to regulate his body temperature under laboratory conditions:

ScienceDirect - Search Results: yogi body temperature study (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleListURL&_method=list&_ArticleListID=1332980019&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=bda1632a2eed87eee0a755a02802cc71)

Patrick Brinton