There has been a fair amount of discussion regarding Arizona's "anti-immigrant" law profiling Hispanics. Perhaps we should start enforcing laws prohibiting employers from hiring undocumented workers. What do you think? Would it help the problem, if you think there is a problem?
someguy
05-04-2010, 04:49 PM
There has been a fair amount of discussion regarding Arizona's "anti-immigrant" law profiling Hispanics. Perhaps we should start enforcing laws prohibiting employers from hiring undocumented workers. What do you think? Would it help the problem, if you think there is a problem?
Yes, I do think that it would be wise to crack down on employers of undocumented workers.
The Arizona law (I think "anti-illegal alien" would be a more appropriate title than "anti-immigrant") actually includes a section that talks about the prohibitions on hiring of illegal aliens and the consequences for doing so. Of course, no one hears about that, because our pathetic excuse for a mainstream media won't report on it.
podfish
05-05-2010, 08:26 AM
Yes, I do think that it would be wise to crack down on employers of undocumented workers.
The Arizona law (I think "anti-illegal alien" would be a more appropriate title than "anti-immigrant") actually includes a section that talks about the prohibitions on hiring of illegal aliens and the consequences for doing so. Of course, no one hears about that, because our pathetic excuse for a mainstream media won't report on it.
and our pathetic excuse for business regulation won't enforce it.
someguy
05-05-2010, 02:39 PM
and our pathetic excuse for business regulation won't enforce it.
thats also true.
Tars
05-05-2010, 09:52 PM
Perhaps we should start enforcing laws prohibiting employers from hiring undocumented workers.
The law is in effect now, and is enforced. The net result is a booming false documentation industry - also shared use of documentation by foreign workers.
Good ol' BF Skinner behavior modification for changing behavior applies here, on a mass scale. It says if you want to eradicate a negative behavior, use positive reinforcement to reward a desired behavior, which replaces the bad behavior.
If we want to have documentation laws that are respected by workers and employers, then first we need to provide an alternate behavior to replace the current bad behavior. We need to first make it easier for foreign workers to come, work, pay taxes, and then go home, then enforce documentation laws. It will be much easier to enforce the laws in that situation, as much fewer people will feel any need to break the laws in the first place.
Too impatient to go that route? The result is what is going on in Arizona, which in behavior mod would be considered negative reinforcement. Negative reinforcement instills avoidance behavior. Due to the huge economic attractiveness of/for foreign workers, that avoidance behavior wouldn't involve foreign workers not going to Arizona. No. Workers and employers would just find ways to avoid having improper documentation, as they do now in CA.
The people who will show avoidance behavior mostly, will be the tourists, truck drivers, etc., who are even now beginning to avoid visiting Arizona. In the end it will be realized that Arizona's attempted solution will be one big negative financial reinforcement for their state economy. Real good work, pols.