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hearthstone
04-15-2010, 07:52 AM
Bodhisattvas!
(online: Bodhisattvas! (https://www.modelearth.org/bodhisattvas.html) )


May all beings, without an exception, benefit utmost by this action--starting with all beings that there are here and now.

One thing in every Bodhisattva's practice in these days stands out: no matter how much we think that our practice is worth, the conditions for life in this world continue to deteriorate at ever increasing pace.

What can be going wrong? Are we not putting all our effort into our practice for the sole purpose of benefiting all beings without an exception, including, of course, all beings that there are here and now also? Why do not beings that there exist here and now benefit? Why isn't the quality of life for all beings here and now improving?

No matter what explanations there might be offered for this phenomenon, none satisfies, no matter how authoritative those explanations might be.

I would like to offer an explanation that, perhaps, will make sense:

The reason that things in this world are going from bad to worse generally is that Bodhisattvas, perhaps, don't have a clear idea, a clear thought in their minds of how (as exactly as possible) the affairs in this world should be conducted in order to be considered as offering the optimal conditions for existence for all beings here and now.

Or, perhaps, all Bodhisattvas in this world do have very clear ideas of what the optimal conditions for all life here and now ought to be, but that not a single one of those ideas is identical to other such ideas that other Bodhisattvas might have, since there is no platform to compare our ideas that we might have on the subject, and therefore we all direct our efforts towards sometimes even fundamentally divergent objectives.

Naturally enough--because there is no clearly defined, and to everyone freely accessible idea of what this world should be like at its optimum, any betterment, any chance of conditions for all life here and now to become ideal is very small.

What needs to be done is that we all agree (by what-so-ever expedient means) on what actually the optimal conditions for all life on Earth should be. Without our harmonizing and unifying of all such ideas of what the ideal state of things in this world should be, we shall continue to see the situation in this world to deteriorate, wondering all the time how come our various practices meant to benefit all beings optimally bear no results.

!OmManiPadmeHum!

Thank you, Hearthstone - www.ModelEarth.Org (https://www.ModelEarth.Org)
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Tars
04-15-2010, 11:21 AM
What needs to be done is that we all agree (by what-so-ever expedient means) on what actually the optimal conditions for all life on Earth should be. Without our harmonizing and unifying of all such ideas of what the ideal state of things in this world should be, we shall continue to see the situation in this world to deteriorate, wondering all the time how come our various practices meant to benefit all beings optimally bear no results.

I have no doubt that you have the highest intentions, but... your premise seems to require a universal consensus by "all life on Earth" on what "optimal" conditions for all life on Earth should be. Universal consensus? Good luck with that. What you think is "optimal", will no doubt offend some others, as being horrible or ridiculous. This is why "life coaches" et al, are viewed with derision by many. Your stated philosophy above is reminiscent of political correctness.

Perhaps a more workable attitude for individual "Bodhishattvas" Might be, "think globally, act individually". Act in the way you think is the best; extend the courtesy to do the same to all other beings.

Just a suggestion.

hearthstone
04-15-2010, 04:54 PM
Your stated philosophy above is reminiscent of political correctness.
To be politically correct is very important--politics is an indelible part of everyone's life, since every individual's existence would be impossible without all others who comprise a "polis" (globally and otherwise).

Of course, "political correctness" should be ecologically and socially sustainable; the kind of the thoughtless standard that passes for "political correctness" now-a-days would never do, of course.



Perhaps a more workable attitude for individual "Bodhishattvas" Might be, "think globally, act individually". Act in the way you think is the best; extend the courtesy to do the same to all other beings.

Unfortunately there is evidence that thinking globally and acting individually does not work, because, so far, most humans (Bodhisattvas and most others) have been doing just that since time immemorial. Had "thinking globally and acting individually" worked over the ages, we (globally) would not be in such a sorry mess that will not go away on its own, no matter how hard individuals act individually.

There has to be a better way!

I even think that any forced "consensus" could be avoided--please see "Universal Model of Ecologically and Socially Sustainable Earth" ( www.modelerth.org/unimodesse.html (https://www.modelerth.org/unimodesse.html) ) in which I propose a possible way of doing just that, perhaps.

Thanks, Hearthstone - www.ModelEarth.Org (https://www.ModelEarth.Org)

LenInSebastopol
04-16-2010, 05:58 AM
Bodhisattva, by definition, have "problesm" with the existence of what is perceived by "conditions of the world". So they matter greatly to such. Possibly, if it is considered that what they "think" and their "practice" is as little as the world "gives" to their activities and thoughts, they may leave that station behind?
Don't know, can't say. Like the 3 Stooges wisely said, "Tried to think and nuttin' happened".