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someguy
03-29-2010, 06:56 PM
— By Kevin Drum| Thu Mar. 18, 2010 10:13 AM PDT
Marc Ambinder wrote about John McCain and Joe Lieberman's "Enemy Belligerent, Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act of 2010" a couple of weeks ago, but I missed it. It's basically designed to allow us to detain enemy belligerents indefinitely if they meet certain criteria:

The bill asks the President to determine criteria for designating an individual as a "high-value detainee" if he/she: (1) poses a threat of an attack on civilians or civilian facilities within the U.S. or U.S. facilities abroad; (2) poses a threat to U.S. military personnel or U.S. military facilities; (3) potential intelligence value; (4) is a member of al Qaeda or a terrorist group affiliated with al Qaeda or (5) such other matters as the President considers appropriate. The President must submit the regulations and guidance to the appropriate committees of Congress no later than 60 days after enactment.

The bill applies to U.S. citizens as well as foreign nationals, and the determination of whether someone is "high value" is made by the High-Value Detainee Interrogation Team and confirmed by the Secretary of Defense and the Attorney General. Glenn Greenwald provides his usual mild-mannered commentary:

It's probably the single most extremist, tyrannical and dangerous bill introduced in the Senate in the last several decades, far beyond the horrific, habeas-abolishing Military Commissions Act. It literally empowers the President to imprison anyone he wants in his sole discretion by simply decreeing them a Terrorist suspect — including American citizens arrested on U.S. soil. The bill requires that all such individuals be placed in military custody, and explicitly says that they "may be detained without criminal charges and without trial for the duration of hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners," which everyone expects to last decades, at least. It's basically a bill designed to formally authorize what the Bush administration did to American citizen Jose Padilla — arrest him on U.S. soil and imprison him for years in military custody with no charges.

More @:
The Enemy Belligerent Act of 2010 | Mother Jones (https://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2010/03/enemy-belligerent-interrogation-detention-and-prosecution-act-2010)

ubaru
12-02-2011, 02:50 PM
— By Kevin Drum| Thu Mar. 18, 2010 10:13 AM PDT
Marc Ambinder wrote about John McCain and Joe Lieberman's "Enemy Belligerent, Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act of 2010" a couple of weeks ago, but I missed it. It's basically designed to allow us to detain enemy belligerents indefinitely if they meet certain criteria:

The bill asks the President to determine criteria for designating an individual as a "high-value detainee" if he/she: (1) poses a threat of an attack on civilians or civilian facilities within the U.S. or U.S. facilities abroad; (2) poses a threat to U.S. military personnel or U.S. military facilities; (3) potential intelligence value; (4) is a member of al Qaeda or a terrorist group affiliated with al Qaeda or (5) such other matters as the President considers appropriate. The President must submit the regulations and guidance to the appropriate committees of Congress no later than 60 days after enactment.

The bill applies to U.S. citizens as well as foreign nationals, and the determination of whether someone is "high value" is made by the High-Value Detainee Interrogation Team and confirmed by the Secretary of Defense and the Attorney General. Glenn Greenwald provides his usual mild-mannered commentary:

It's probably the single most extremist, tyrannical and dangerous bill introduced in the Senate in the last several decades, far beyond the horrific, habeas-abolishing Military Commissions Act. It literally empowers the President to imprison anyone he wants in his sole discretion by simply decreeing them a Terrorist suspect — including American citizens arrested on U.S. soil. The bill requires that all such individuals be placed in military custody, and explicitly says that they "may be detained without criminal charges and without trial for the duration of hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners," which everyone expects to last decades, at least. It's basically a bill designed to formally authorize what the Bush administration did to American citizen Jose Padilla — arrest him on U.S. soil and imprison him for years in military custody with no charges.

More @:
The Enemy Belligerent Act of 2010 | Mother Jones (https://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2010/03/enemy-belligerent-interrogation-detention-and-prosecution-act-2010)

I see John McCain has been at work on this idea for a while. I don't know if this Enemy Belligerent Act bill passed (did it)? but he introduced Senate Bill 1867: National Defense Authorization Act (https://www.waccobb.net/forums/showthread.php?85445-Unbelievable-Police-State-Bill-Passes-S.1867-Our-Enemy-Is-Within&p=144185#post144185) which passed the Senate on Dec 1st 2011 and does the same thing.

Liz :fie: Fie fie!

MarilynO
12-02-2011, 03:42 PM
Our representatives passed this monster yesterday (Thursday Dec 1st) with little public awareness or response. It is Senate Bill 1867. Senator Mark Udall tried to get rid of the part of allowing this imprisonment to happen to American Citizens as well. The amendment to Senate Bill 1867 by Senator Mark Udall (D-Colorado) was defeated after 15 Democrats joined with most of the Republican caucus to vote against it (60 to 38 (https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=1&vote=00210)).
The Democrats who voted for giving the military the power were Robert Casey of Pennsylvania, Kent Conrad of North Dakota, Kay Hagan of North Carolina, Daniel Inouye (https://www.allgov.com/Official/Inouye_Daniel) of Hawaii, Herb Kohl of Wisconsin, Carl Levin of Michigan, Joe Manchin of West Virginia, Claire McCaskill of Missouri, Ben Nelson of Nebraska, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Jack Reed of Rhode Island, Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire and Debbie Stabenow of Michigan. Obama says he will veto it. Please call or email him and demand that he do that. Take this issue out into the Occupy Protest. It now needs to be a main objective because it will allow for the immediate arrest of anyone without trial for an indefinite period.
This bill is riddled with money for corporations to make big bucks off a building prisons too.... Once again they are thinking of Big Money and not upholding the Constitution or the people they were sworn to serve. (Hmm... I wonder if this bill allows for ordinary people to make citizen's arrests... perhaps we could have most of our senators and congressman thrown into Military prison for terrorism against the American people...)

It's insidious, unconscionable, and I wish it were unbelievable.
Please call Mark Udall and thank him for trying to save some shred of Democracy:
P: 202-224-5941 or https://markudall.senate.gov will allow you to email him or post a comment.
Please contact those 15 Democrats and tell them to resign or anything you think might not get you arrested.