New Font on the website

[Barry]

Hi folks,

I've changed the default font on the website from 10pt Verdana, to 12 pt Arial. I like the larger size (because I'm getting older?) and it just seems nicer.

What do you think?

(this old font looked like this)

I haven't implemented this in the digest and other emails, but I will if you guys like it.

Now that I think of it, I could probably make it option if any of guys really don't like the larger size. But I'd rather keep it consistent for everybody.

Change can be difficult. If you don't like it give it a few days and then see how you feel. And for that matter, I'll see if I still like it in a few days!

[someguy]

I dig it.

["Mad" Miles]

Barry,

Thanks for asking, not just imposing.

I know you asked us to wait a couple of days, but I'm not that patient.

I don't like it.

Too big. Takes up too much room on my screen so scrolling through the "New Posts" page is a little more work.

I also do not like sans serif fonts. Hence my changing all of my posts to Garamond 3 Point before posting.

(Used to use Times New Roman, 3 Point, but apparently I can only get that on this site by changing my browser from IE, which I'm not interested in doing.)

Point 12 is too big, especially with a fat font like Ariel.

As for getting older, everybody is. I use glasses.

Now, if I can set everything I read on the board in TNR or Garamond 3 (actually 12), and anyone else can use whatever they want as well?

Then that would be the best of all possible font worlds!

Otherwise please go back to the way it was. You're hogging my screen space with this change.

Your poll leaves out the option of having it whatever way we want. It only gives us the choices of, old, new and I don't care. How about? I care but I don't want to restrict others to what I like!

Happy Thursday,

"Mad" Miles

:burngrnbounce:

[kpage9]

Miles, I love to read your posts. But the small font (especially so today for some reason?) makes me squint, even through the 300-pt readers I so greatefully wear.
kp


Barry,

Thanks for asking, not just imposing.

I know you asked us to wait a couple of days, but I'm not that patient.

I don't like it.

Too big. ...

["Mad" Miles]

Miles, I love to read your posts. But the small font (especially so today for some reason?) makes me squint, even through the 300-pt readers I so greatefully wear.
kp

Hey kpage9,

Thanks for the props about my prose. Comments like yours are part of why I keep coming back, more's the pity for those who aren't entertained by my little efforts!

I used the same font and pica that I've been using on this site for most of the last year (since some change Barry made that flushed my access to Times New Roman) Garamond 3. I suspect that the Font change Barry made has something to do with this.

I have found I can change the Zoom (Under "View" in Internet Explorer) to 90% and reduce the large Ariel Font size in the New Posts listing. That partly solves the problems I have that I listed in my previous post in this thread. But it also reduces other Fonts which aren't as big, so the text of most posts is smaller and the sidebar lists text is smaller. But my page isn't as crowded when I'm scrolling down the list. I also discovered that changing the Text Size (under "View") doesn't make any difference, only Zoom.

As a result, the text I am now typing, with my Zoom set on 90%, is very tiny. Looks like 8 point pica to me. I'm hoping that when it is read at 100% Zoom (i.e. "normal") it will be the same size as before Barry's tinkering. (Just checked at 100% Zoom, seems to work, at least from my perspective.) But from what you write, and what I'm seeing, I'm not too optimistic. But anyone can "Zoom" over 100%, it's just a hassle to have to change it, just for waccobb.net.

Barry, still don't like the new title text size and font. For the reasons already stated, plus it puts the post titles even more out of proportion to the other text, such as user names, dates, sidebar lists, post body text, etc.

It's raining and even though I'll need to go buy some food for dinner, I love it! Oops, looks like it just stopped while I was doing final edits on this post.

Cheers,

"Mad" Miles

:burngrnbounce:

[decterlove]

dON'T LIKE IT EITHER!

BUT I HATE CHANGE.........CEPT SPARE CHANGE........I remember when the old rotary dial phones transitioned to push buttons.....

I spent two weeks in BED with the Sheets drawn up over my head!:2cents::2cents:

[Adrenalyn]

If viewing the Digest on a Mac, or virtually any other window for that matter, use "command +" and everything gets bigger!

This is true, for me on another's computer, for the email version of the Digest.

On my computer, from the Wacco website, this action took me back up to the top of the Digest; upon scrolling down, the bigness was apparent. Likewise, use "command -" and if you repeat the action often enough, you can get it all to go as small as you would like.

Size is one thing, fonts are something else. I am always on the lookout for a good font!

I did like the changes that Barry introduced.


Not to be absolutely certain is, I think, one of the essential things in rationality.
Bertrand Russell, "Am I an Atheist or an Agnostic?", 1947



Hey kpage9,

Thanks for the props about my prose. Comments like yours are part of why I keep coming back, more's the pity for those who aren't entertained by my little efforts!

I used the same font and pica that I've been using on this site for most of the last year (since some change Barry made that flushed my access to Times New Roman) Garamond 3. I suspect that the Font change Barry made has something to do with this.

I have found I can change the Zoom (Under "View" in Internet Explorer) to 90% and reduce the large Ariel Font size in the New Posts listing. That partly solves the problems I have that I listed in my previous post in this thread. But it also reduces other Fonts which aren't as big, so the text of most posts is smaller and the sidebar lists text is smaller. But my page isn't as crowded when I'm scrolling down the list. I also discovered that changing the Text Size (under "View") doesn't make any difference, only Zoom.

As a result, the text I am now typing, with my Zoom set on 90%, is very tiny. Looks like 8 point pica to me. I'm hoping that when it is read at 100% Zoom (i.e. "normal") it will be the same size as before Barry's tinkering. (Just checked at 100% Zoom, seems to work, at least from my perspective.) But from what you write, and what I'm seeing, I'm not too optimistic. But anyone can "Zoom" over 100%, it's just a hassle to have to change it, just for waccobb.net.

Barry, still don't like the new title text size and font. For the reasons already stated, plus it puts the post titles even more out of proportion to the other text, such as user names, dates, sidebar lists, post body text, etc.

It's raining and even though I'll need to go buy some food for dinner, I love it! Oops, looks like it just stopped while I was doing final edits on this post.

Cheers,

"Mad" Miles

:burngrnbounce:

[Tecumseh]

12 pt Arial gets my vote.



Hi folks,

I've changed the default font on the website from 10pt Verdana, to 12 pt Arial. I like the larger size (because I'm getting older?) and it just seems nicer.

What do you think?

(this old font looked like this)

I haven't implemented this in the digest and other emails, but I will if you guys like it.

Now that I think of it, I could probably make it option if any of guys really don't like the larger size. But I'd rather keep it consistent for everybody.

Change can be difficult. If you don't like it give it a few days and then see how you feel. And for that matter, I'll see if I still like it in a few days!

[Tars]

I like the change, Barry. I have default font set as sans-serif on my browser anyway. Forum viewers' monitors must vary a lot in pixels-per-inch. I have fairly good monitor resolution, Serif fonts tend to appear very light & spidery; difficult to read. I know others here prefer them.