apparently i can not post anything FREE anywhere on WACCOBB without having to PAY... i have some FREE products that really help people & help protect people from EMF - which was related to THE SMART METERS thread & others but that was deleted. IM NOT TAKING ABOUT THIS STUFF ALL THE TIME BUT MY --FREE AD-- IN THE SO CALLED FREE SECTION WAS DELETED. & ALL MY OTHER POSTS WERE DELETED BECAUSE I MENTIONED "GO TO THE FREE SECTION" ON THIS FORUM... so my free stuff = commercial & if its commercial i must pay. im just trying to help people by GIVING AWAY free bracelets (i dont get any money by giving away bracelets) IM A LIGHTWORKER & I HELP PEOPLE FOR NO PAY MOST OF THE TIME & i cant even mention the website now anywhere on here without having to pay. & nothing affiliated with a website i share with thousands. THE WEBSITE IS HOWEVER LISTED ON MY PROFILE PAGE BUT THAT TOO WILL PROBABLY BE DELETED BECAUSE IT IS LINKED & IM NOT PAYING THE MODERATOR ON HERE TO SHARE IT SO ITS NOT GOING TO GET SHARED.
ive had other posts & information that could really help people here - & it was edited, controlled, moved & deleted by your Moderator.
im loosing hope here with this CONTROLLED & LIMITED COMMUNITY forum. i cant even talk about stuff LET ALONE STUFF that raises ones vibration. this ultimately is universal knowledge & it is being blocked on here.
for all i know my post here will be deleted. my account deleted & myself banned from this so called community forum for speaking up about things but because im not following the strict & limiting rules. & IM NOT PAYING.
WHAT I AM DOING IS IM GOING TO START "OUR" OWN OTHER COMMUNITY FORUM & IT WONT BE CONTROLLED FOR POSITIVITY, OR SENSELESS CONTROL IN GENERAL, IT WONT BE LIMITED, & IT WILL BE FREE WITH FREE KNOWLEDGE FOR ALL. & IM INVITING ALL MEMBERS HERE TO JOIN ONCE I GET IT UP & RUNNING. & THE AWESOME SPIRITUAL ADS ON HERE THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY FOR WILL BE ADVERTISED FOR FREE ON MY NEW FORUM.
INDIGO angel jerica lee
Barry
02-22-2010, 04:53 PM
apparently i can not post anything FREE anywhere on WACCOBB without having to PAY...
This is another case of bad behavior concerning MLM and affiliate marketing schemes. Like I have posted in our MLM discussion (https://www.waccobb.net/forums/general-community/63281-whats-your-experience-multi-level-marketing.html#post107304), while it may be a valid business, people tend to go about it in inappropriate ways.
In this instance, "INDIGO angel jerica lee" after being informed of our commercial posting policy, decided to not invest the $6 in her business (as well as making a nominal contribution to the service that she wants to use). Instead she put up several posts about "free necklaces" (that cost $3.99 for shipping) with a link to her affiliate site ("www.vibesup.com/101.html" (the one "101" identifies her marketing id) - whose "favicon" is https://www.waccobb.net/forums/waccobb/ImagesforMembers/2010-02-22_1649.png) where she is paid for every purchase made by someone she directs to the website (possibly not including the "free" necklace).
I have removed her posts that were solely about these necklaces (that also violated our duplicate posting guidelines) and removed a reference from an unrelated post. I have been very clear and respectful in my several private replies to her regarding these changes.
Following various rude and indignant public and private responses, I have banned her from the site.
Good Luck with your new forum, Jerica.
Insights
02-23-2010, 07:05 AM
Thank you Barry!
Barry
02-23-2010, 02:04 PM
Thank you Barry!
Thanks for all the support/gratitude folks!
Barry
auroramagiceyes
02-23-2010, 05:09 PM
Its called Craigslist which this place is not......
...
WHAT I AM DOING IS IM GOING TO START "OUR" OWN OTHER COMMUNITY FORUM & IT WONT BE CONTROLLED FOR POSITIVITY, OR SENSELESS CONTROL IN GENERAL, IT WONT BE LIMITED, & IT WILL BE FREE WITH FREE KNOWLEDGE FOR ALL. & IM INVITING ALL MEMBERS HERE TO JOIN ONCE I GET IT UP & RUNNING. & THE AWESOME SPIRITUAL ADS ON HERE THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY FOR WILL BE ADVERTISED FOR FREE ON MY NEW FORUM.
INDIGO angel jerica lee
eja
02-24-2010, 10:25 AM
you don't have to bash and judgmentalize someone else's website just to start your own. There is plenty of room for everyone...
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Yip
02-24-2010, 10:43 AM
From what I understand, as an outsider, this ruckus is about $6.
I don't get the impression that Barry wants to protect people from spending $3.99 on a necklace, so it is about Barry not getting paid $6 for his services.
Since he has removed other postings from Indigo Crystal Angel before, why is it now necessary to publicly 'attack' another person on his website (This is another case of bad behavior )
With no way for her to respond since she is banned from this site.
Is this really all about $6???
This is another case of bad behavior concerning MLM and affiliate marketing schemes. Like I have posted in our MLM discussion (https://www.waccobb.net/forums/general-community/63281-whats-your-experience-multi-level-marketing.html#post107304), while it may be a valid business, people tend to go about it in inappropriate ways.
In this instance, "INDIGO angel jerica lee" after being informed of our commercial posting policy, decided to not invest the $6 in her business (as well as making a nominal contribution to the service that she wants to use). Instead she put up several posts about "free necklaces" (that cost $3.99 for shipping) with a link to her affiliate site ("www.vibesup.com/101.html" (the one "101" identifies her marketing id) - whose "favicon" is https://www.waccobb.net/forums/waccobb/ImagesforMembers/2010-02-22_1649.png) where she is paid for every purchase made by someone she directs to the website (possibly not including the "free" necklace).
I have removed her posts that were solely about these necklaces (that also violated our duplicate posting guidelines) and removed a reference from an unrelated post. I have been very clear and respectful in my several private replies to her regarding these changes.
Following various rude and indignant public and private responses, I have banned her from the site.
Good Luck with your new forum, Jerica.
Barry
02-24-2010, 03:56 PM
From what I understand, as an outsider, this ruckus is about $6.
I don't get the impression that Barry wants to protect people from spending $3.99 on a necklace, so it is about Barry not getting paid $6 for his services.
This isn't about $6 as much as it is about being honest and respectful.
In my opinion, Jerica was not being honest went she represented her posts about the necklaces as being non-commercial. I pointed this out to her and she refused accept that it was still a commercial post and she had a commercial interest in it.
Secondly, in both her private comments to me and her comments in this thread and elsewhere on the board, I felt she was both rude and indignant. Many people have taken exception to my rules here. Some are polite and some are not when expressing their disagreement. I believe her manner belied her claim to being a "lightworker".
If she had paid the $6 and posted about her "free" necklaces, I would have posted a comment that the necklaces are not in fact free if I had noticed that.
This illustrates one of my concerns about "bad behavior" in MLM practices. What she was trying to do is to offer a product that "help[s] protect people from EMF". So firstly, I've got to believe that is a false claim (combined with the fact that it is not free). And then it's is presented as if there is no commercial interest, that it is purely an altruistic offering. Again, it's dishonest. It's marketing that is pretending not to be marketing, which again is common (but not universal) practice of network marketing.
Since he has removed other postings from Indigo Crystal Angel before, why is it now necessary to publicly 'attack' another person on his website (This is another case of bad behavior )Contrary to what Jerica posted, I have only removed her posts about marketing the necklaces. Since she posted this complaint, I thought I'd leave it up and address it. My reference about "bad behavior" was not to attack Jerica, but rather to use it to illustrate common MLM practices that are an issue for many in this community. She was the one who decided to make it a public issue rather than to just play by the rules or go away.
With no way for her to respond since she is banned from this site.Given how she handled herself in this matter, it was clear to me that she didn't belong here. She obviously had strong objections about how I run this site, as was not willing/able to be conscious/honest of her own intentions (i.e. her own self-interest in offering the "free" necklaces).
Is this really all about $6???No.
I'll add that after many rounds of communication, both privately and publicly, she finally offered to post her necklace link without her affiliate code (that allowed her to profit from any subsequent purchases by any of her referrals) but by that time her behavior was the issue and not the links.
Valley Oak
02-24-2010, 04:26 PM
HEAR YE, HEAR YE!
Before you is a truly spiritual, "light-working" collection of FREE necklaces for only 6 dollars each !!!
;0)
Edward
This isn't about $6 as much as it is about being honest and respectful.
In my opinion, Jerica was not being honest went she represented her posts about the necklaces as being non-commercial. I pointed this out to her and she refused accept that it was still a commercial post and she had a commercial interest in it.
Secondly, in both her private comments to me and her comments in this thread and elsewhere on the board, I felt she was both rude and indignant. Many people have taken exception to my rules here. Some are polite and some are not when expressing their disagreement. I believe her manner belied her claim to being a "lightworker".
If she had paid the $6 and posted about her "free" necklaces, I would have posted a comment that the necklaces are not in fact free if I had noticed that.
This illustrates one of my concerns about "bad behavior" in MLM practices. What she was trying to do is to offer a product that "help[s] protect people from EMF". So firstly, I've got to believe that is a false claim (combined with the fact that it is not free). And then it's is presented as if there is no commercial interest, that it is purely an altruistic offering. Again, it's dishonest. It's marketing that is pretending not to be marketing, which again is common (but not universal) practice of network marketing.
Contrary to what Jerica posted, I have only removed her posts about marketing the necklaces. Since she posted this complaint, I thought I'd leave it up and address it. My reference about "bad behavior" was not to attack Jerica, but rather to use it to illustrate common MLM practices that are an issue for many in this community. She was the one who decided to make it a public issue rather than to just play by the rules or go away.
Given how she handled herself in this matter, it was clear to me that she didn't belong here. She obviously had strong objections about how I run this site, as was not willing/able to be conscious/honest of her own intentions (i.e. her own self-interest in offering the "free" necklaces).
No.
I'll add that after many rounds of communication, both privately and publicly, she finally offered to post her necklace link without her affiliate code (that allowed her to profit from any subsequent purchases by any of her referrals) but by that time her behavior was the issue and not the links.
kit-kit
02-24-2010, 05:17 PM
A day, nay hours ago, I succinctly gave gratitude to BC for his just boot to "Indigo." One of my thoughts: signed up 2-19-10 and after four days is unhappy enough to post those many words, most of which are in caps [the words alone were over-the-top...but caps?] [aarrgghh]
(I'm old enough to have worked in a world where we did not have editing typewriters; if you typed it, it was there forever. Now in the 21st century, it's enjoyable to type a phrase, consider it, modify, distill the thought. Occasionally one may come to the realization a bit of information or vitriolic opinion doesn't really need to be shared.)
Yip
02-24-2010, 06:41 PM
Even though you might have made the right decision to remove the ads, it stills feels like you are trying to get even with her, and show her that you have the final word, literally.
It seems to me that Indigo Crystal Angel is struggling emotionally, spiritually and financially. For someone in a power position, like you, to kick her while she is on the ground over $6, doesn't feel very conscious to me, especially considering that you had other options.
But apparently I am the only one who feels that way.
This isn't about $6 as much as it is about being honest and respectful.
In my opinion, Jerica was not being honest went she represented her posts about the necklaces as being non-commercial. I pointed this out to her and she refused accept that it was still a commercial post and she had a commercial interest in it.
Secondly, in both her private comments to me and her comments in this thread and elsewhere on the board, I felt she was both rude and indignant. Many people have taken exception to my rules here. Some are polite and some are not when expressing their disagreement. I believe her manner belied her claim to being a "lightworker".
If she had paid the $6 and posted about her "free" necklaces, I would have posted a comment that the necklaces are not in fact free if I had noticed that.
This illustrates one of my concerns about "bad behavior" in MLM practices. What she was trying to do is to offer a product that "help[s] protect people from EMF". So firstly, I've got to believe that is a false claim (combined with the fact that it is not free). And then it's is presented as if there is no commercial interest, that it is purely an altruistic offering. Again, it's dishonest. It's marketing that is pretending not to be marketing, which again is common (but not universal) practice of network marketing.
Contrary to what Jerica posted, I have only removed her posts about marketing the necklaces. Since she posted this complaint, I thought I'd leave it up and address it. My reference about "bad behavior" was not to attack Jerica, but rather to use it to illustrate common MLM practices that are an issue for many in this community. She was the one who decided to make it a public issue rather than to just play by the rules or go away.
Given how she handled herself in this matter, it was clear to me that she didn't belong here. She obviously had strong objections about how I run this site, as was not willing/able to be conscious/honest of her own intentions (i.e. her own self-interest in offering the "free" necklaces).
No.
I'll add that after many rounds of communication, both privately and publicly, she finally offered to post her necklace link without her affiliate code (that allowed her to profit from any subsequent purchases by any of her referrals) but by that time her behavior was the issue and not the links.
theindependenteye
02-24-2010, 07:22 PM
>>>Even though you might have made the right decision to remove the ads, it stills feels like you are trying to get even with her, and show her that you have the final word, literally. It seems to me that Indigo Crystal Angel is struggling emotionally, spiritually and financially. For someone in a power position, like you, to kick her while she is on the ground over $6, doesn't feel very conscious to me, especially considering that you had other options. But apparently I am the only one who feels that way.
Dear YIP--
Yes, maybe you are, and while I disagree totally with you, I honor you for saying this. It seems you're concerned, first, with hurting someone who's emotionally vulnerable (an all-caps lightworker???) and with the abuse of a "power position." I empathize with that and commend your concern.
But I have to agree with Barry, and honor his willingness to explain his position at length. We ourselves happen to be an experimental, non-profit theatre ensemble, feel our work is virtuous as all get-out, and that our tickets are very inexpensive, yet we pay what's asked as a means of supporting the broad services of Wacco and Barry's time in making it happen. I don't object if we're charging $15 for 2 hrs. of work, while someone's offering a workshop for $300 and paying the same amount. If it's a paid thing, you pay for the privilege of advertising it: that's a simple proposition.
Being in a "power position"... There are old threads here about the starting point of Wacco, and whether Barry was an opportunist who sorta took it over, etc. But whatever your slant on that, the fact is that, first, it wouldn't remotely be what it is today if somebody hadn't "taken it over" and made an enormous contribution of time and risk in its evolution; secondly, he's done a fabulous job and goes to great lengths to be fair and responsible; and thirdly, being in a "power position" means, in this kind of low-level entrepreneurship, doing most all of the work and, with great luck, making maybe minimum wage. Our own work, for 38 years, has been based on communitarian & egalitarian & collaborative principles, and we're not bumper sticker types, but we do have one sticker on our van: THE WORLD IS RUN BY THE PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP. I believe people of all political & spiritual persuasions would do well to keep that in mind.
Peace & joy--
Conrad
Yip
02-24-2010, 08:28 PM
Thanks for your comments, apparently I am not able to get my point across very clear.
I have no problem whatsoever with Barry charging people to use his site for their businesses, and I am wondering how I gave you that impression.
Barry is portraying this woman as a cheapskate, dishonest, rude and indignant. If I count it correctly, this woman was a one day menace. If I were a business owner who had this information and had to choose between publicly exposing a person's behavior or making it go away, I would choose the latter. It is good for business in the long run.
She was the one who decided to make it a public issue rather than to just play by the rules or go away. This argument seems rather weak, considering the fact that Barry controls what is posted and what is not.That is the power position he is in.
My opinion is apparently not even the minority but considered extreme in this conscious community. Alas, I was hoping that conscious means caring for one another, especially the ones that need it.
>>>Even though you might have made the right decision to remove the ads, it stills feels like you are trying to get even with her, and show her that you have the final word, literally. It seems to me that Indigo Crystal Angel is struggling emotionally, spiritually and financially. For someone in a power position, like you, to kick her while she is on the ground over $6, doesn't feel very conscious to me, especially considering that you had other options. But apparently I am the only one who feels that way.
Dear YIP--
Yes, maybe you are, and while I disagree totally with you, I honor you for saying this. It seems you're concerned, first, with hurting someone who's emotionally vulnerable (an all-caps lightworker???) and with the abuse of a "power position." I empathize with that and commend your concern.
But I have to agree with Barry, and honor his willingness to explain his position at length. We ourselves happen to be an experimental, non-profit theatre ensemble, feel our work is virtuous as all get-out, and that our tickets are very inexpensive, yet we pay what's asked as a means of supporting the broad services of Wacco and Barry's time in making it happen. I don't object if we're charging $15 for 2 hrs. of work, while someone's offering a workshop for $300 and paying the same amount. If it's a paid thing, you pay for the privilege of advertising it: that's a simple proposition.
Being in a "power position"... There are old threads here about the starting point of Wacco, and whether Barry was an opportunist who sorta took it over, etc. But whatever your slant on that, the fact is that, first, it wouldn't remotely be what it is today if somebody hadn't "taken it over" and made an enormous contribution of time and risk in its evolution; secondly, he's done a fabulous job and goes to great lengths to be fair and responsible; and thirdly, being in a "power position" means, in this kind of low-level entrepreneurship, doing most all of the work and, with great luck, making maybe minimum wage. Our own work, for 38 years, has been based on communitarian & egalitarian & collaborative principles, and we're not bumper sticker types, but we do have one sticker on our van: THE WORLD IS RUN BY THE PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP. I believe people of all political & spiritual persuasions would do well to keep that in mind.
Peace & joy--
Conrad
"Mad" Miles
02-24-2010, 09:21 PM
considering the fact that Barry controls what is posted and what is not.That is the power position he is in.
Yip,
Barry does not, and cannot given the amount of time in the day, edit what is posted on waccobb, before it is posted. He can only delete or change a post after it has been sent. So when he comes across something objectionable, he has a choice. Remove it, but assume that some people have seen it before he deletes it. Or leave it and respond to it publicly, or privately.
From what he has written here, and in my experience, he started responding privately. When our dear departed light worker (sorry, but I can't help myself) made a public issue of his moderation, what would you have him do?
Delete all of her posts and then be accused of being a censor? He's between a rock and a hard place in these matters.
I know because I moderate several political yahoogroups. One has to choose between discretion and disclosure, as in any matter involving human communication. I tend to err on the side of disclosure, and have had to learn from painful experience how to balance that with appropriate discretion.
In this case INDIGO angel jerica lee made a public stink after she could not get her way. Barry responded moderately and appropriately, in the opinion of many here, and enforced the publicly stated limits and rules of this board.
Now you slam him for not being kind, caring and discrete.
How exactly would you have had him handle it if you were he?
When it comes to someone being banned from waccobb.net, I want to know about it and why. I do not like secret assasinations in the dark and the rewriting of the record without open access. Too much of that has happened in human history and goes on around the world as we "speak".
In a conscious, caring, open community, matters of discipline should be public. Painful as they may be for anyone subjected to that discipline. And there's a difference between public shaming, and public information. Although the recipient of any sanctions probably would not see it that way.
Scopesthetic,
I haven't any clue as to what you're on about. But I suspect that's the effect you wanted to achieve with your obtuse and obscure post.
"Mad" Miles
:burngrnbounce:
Yip
02-24-2010, 09:55 PM
Miles,
Like I said before, he could have banned her, deleted her post and leave it at that. She was a ONE day event.
Barry says; she decided to not invest the $6 in her business (as well as making a nominal contribution to the service that she wants to use).
That may seem like info, but that is public shaming for her being cheap and not investing in your bizz. (did you also notice how Barry left out the 'nominal $ amount)
Publicly banning someone is also borderline shaming someone, especially since Barry said she was starting to turn around.
.
Now you slam him for not being kind, caring and discrete
This statement of yours is twisting my words and reality and I am not sure why you feel the need to do that.
Yip,
Barry does not, and cannot given the amount of time in the day, edit what is posted on waccobb, before it is posted. He can only delete or change a post after it has been sent. So when he comes across something objectionable, he has a choice. Remove it, but assume that some people have seen it before he deletes it. Or leave it and respond to it publicly, or privately.
From what he has written here, and in my experience, he started responding privately. When our dear departed light worker (sorry, but I can't help myself) made a public issue of his moderation, what would you have him do?
Delete all of her posts and then be accused of being a censor? He's between a rock and a hard place in these matters.
I know because I moderate several political yahoogroups. One has to choose between discretion and disclosure, as in any matter involving human communication. I tend to err on the side of disclosure, and have had to learn from painful experience how to balance that with appropriate discretion.
In this case INDIGO angel jerica lee made a public stink after she could not get her way. Barry responded moderately and appropriately, in the opinion of many here, and enforced the publicly stated limits and rules of this board.
Now you slam him for not being kind, caring and discrete.
How exactly would you have had him handle it if you were he?
When it comes to someone being banned from waccobb.net, I want to know about it and why. I do not like secret assasinations in the dark and the rewriting of the record without open access. Too much of that has happened in human history and goes on around the world as we "speak".
In a conscious, caring, open community, matters of discipline should be public. Painful as they may be for anyone subjected to that discipline. And there's a difference between public shaming, and public information. Although the recipient of any sanctions probably would not see it that way.
Scopesthetic,
I haven't any clue as to what you're on about. But I suspect that's the effect you wanted to achieve with your obtuse and obscure post.
"Mad" Miles
:burngrnbounce:
Lorrie
02-25-2010, 01:55 PM
DANG!! Why did you get to say it first. Oooh, oooh! Look what I can do!!!
:hearye:
:kneel:
:thumbsup:
HEAR YE, HEAR YE!
Before you is a truly spiritual, "light-working" collection of FREE necklaces for only 6 dollars each !!!
;0)
Edward
Barry
02-25-2010, 02:27 PM
Like I said before, he could have banned her, deleted her post and leave it at that. She was a ONE day event.
Miles addressed this well. It's a damned if you do and damned if don't situation (removing posts). There's only one thing you can be certain of, someone's going to complain! :): I generally come down on the side of not removing (or editing) posts with the exception of commercial issues. My decision to leave her post up is evidence of this.
I no longer hold the position that all disciplinary actions need be public because the publicness just creates a lot of drama (as evidenced by this thread). And despite the huge pageviews they can rack up, I think it is ultimately a disservice to the community. And as WaccoTalk clearly demonstrates, there are always contrary opinions, and yet a decision must be made.
Yes, she was a One Day event, thanks to my (and her) swift action. It could have dragged on, but the trend was clear to me. BTW, I didn't ban her until she made further private/public comments about the same topics, before I had a chance to respond.
Her public complaint contained the full substance of her private comments to me. She laid it all out on the table. I think the complaint itself illustrated that she doesn't belong here. I addressed it. There was no need to go further.
(did you also notice how Barry left out the 'nominal $ amount)The "nominal $ amount" is the same $6. Sorry for my unclear phrasing.
Publicly banning someone is also borderline shaming someone
Again, it was she who sought who sought to shame me. Rather than censoring that, I addressed it.
BTW, "Yip" has resigned from WaccoBB.net (with no encouragement from me).
babaruss
02-25-2010, 10:25 PM
I cannot imagine telling someone that they are violating the rules is an attempt to 'get even' with that person.
Telling someone that they are violating a web site's ethics, or rules, cannot possibly be construed as 'kicking someone when they are down'.
The fact that this person may be 'struggling emotionally, spiritually, or financially' has little, or no bearing on her being asked to stop violating clearly posted rules.
In fact, if her financial difficulties are as vital as you claim, I would suggest that you pay the $6.00...after all as you suggest it is such a piddling amount.
And since you were not privy to Barry, and this persons private emails...you have no way of knowing what came about, let alone be able make judgments regarding one side, or the other.
Staying with the facts helps find resolutions while avoiding blazing revolutions.
Babaruss
Even though you might have made the right decision to remove the ads, it stills feels like you are trying to get even with her, and show her that you have the final word, literally.
It seems to me that Indigo Crystal Angel is struggling emotionally, spiritually and financially. For someone in a power position, like you, to kick her while she is on the ground over $6, doesn't feel very conscious to me, especially considering that you had other options.
But apparently I am the only one who feels that way.
Sciguy
02-26-2010, 12:15 AM
I also posted a commercial offering (not even realizing it was in a special category) and Barry also told me that I needed to pay some money for posting. I'm expecting to pay it and repost. I think Barry deserves some income for what he does. I'm sure he isn't getting rich off of Wacco.
As I have said a number of times before, if you think Barry is simply exerting power (like a neocon?) for its own sake, then you are just too young to remember what unmoderated bulletin boards were like back in the day, when the internet was barely beginning. Every one of them degenerated into stupid, intolerable flaming, name-calling, endless disputes and rancor. They would just self-destruct. There were no well behaved, moderate, self-limiting bulletin boards that I remember. Do you see what spam has become? Well those same types of people were out to destroy bulletin boards just because they could. Barry is a godsend.
And what the hell is a lightworker? Why is everyone using that word as though it existed in English?
Paul
Valley Oak
02-26-2010, 10:27 AM
And on that note, if Barry were to start grossing one million dollars a year from Wacco I would applaud this, congratulate him personally, and wish him that this success be repeated every year without exception.
Edward
babaruss
02-26-2010, 11:42 AM
I'm going to use Edwards post as a venue to tell people that emailing me privately to argue/assail/chide me for my views) is not appreciated.
If you feel strongly enough about you P.O.V. then please send those comments to the forum so we can all know what it is that you have to say.
Baba
And on that note, if Barry were to start grossing one million dollars a year from Wacco I would applaud this, congratulate him personally, and wish him that this success be repeated every year without exception.
Edward
"Mad" Miles
02-26-2010, 12:46 PM
And what the hell is a lightworker? Why is everyone using that word as though it existed in English?
Paul
Paul,
Even though I suspect this is a rhetorical question, I did a quick google and here's the first substantive result.
Definition of Light Worker (https://www.extrasensory-perceptions-guide.com/definition-of-lightworker.html)
It appears that, in answering the questions about whether or not one is a Light Worker, that I am one!
Who knew? I sure didn't. Now to discover my Akashic history....
I also read the post further on down the google search list (https://www.google.com/search?q=lightworkers+definition&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7ADBF_en)about Lightworker/Darkworker .... Bullshit (https://healedspirit.com/2009/09/06/lightworkerdarkworker-bullshit/). That was very comforting as well!
"Mad" Miles
babaruss
02-26-2010, 01:13 PM
So if I get this right, a light worker is someone who is aware, serene, and focused on bringing peaceful resolution to all aspects of life....or did I misread something ?
If so, then why is the 'light worker' in question having so much trouble living up to these values ?
Emerson once said: "who you are shouts so loudly that I can't hear a word you are saying". This is a value I try to apply to all and sundry who profess peace, while claiming special treatment and understanding are due them.
Baba
Paul,
Even though I suspect this is a rhetorical question, I did a quick google and here's the first substantive result.
Definition of Light Worker (https://www.extrasensory-perceptions-guide.com/definition-of-lightworker.html)
It appears that, in answering the questions about whether or not one is a Light Worker, that I am one!
Who knew? I sure didn't. Now to discover my Akashic history....
I also read the post further on down the google search list (https://www.google.com/search?q=lightworkers+definition&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7ADBF_en)about Lightworker/Darkworker .... Bullshit (https://healedspirit.com/2009/09/06/lightworkerdarkworker-bullshit/). That was very comforting as well!
"Mad" Miles
"Mad" Miles
02-26-2010, 01:27 PM
So if I get this right, a light worker is someone who is aware, serene, and focused on bringing peaceful resolution to all aspects of life....or did I misread something ?
"who you are shouts so loudly that I can't hear a word you are saying". This is a value I try to apply to all and sundry who profess peace, while claiming special treatment and understanding are due them.
Baba
Baba,
Sounds reasonable to me! Nice Emerson quote. I've always meant to read more of him. I turned down the opportunity to take a volume of his collected works home from the office yesterday while packing up my desk. I don't have enough bookshelf space for what I already have. But now I'm beginning to regret it!
Sitting here enjoying the light (as in not heavy, not in the luminescent sense) storm while procrastinating about going out in the rain to fetch the paper.
Who knew my friend Okili was from Sebastopol? While I've seen him in "town" occasionally, it's usually been in Graton or more often in Santa Rosa. What is it about Sebastopol that it sucks all meaning in the county into its own vortex? I'll leave that question for the self-described Light Workers (or Dark Workers?) to address.
Ooh, the storm just got heavy! Could it be something I typed?!
"Mad" Miles
:burngrnbounce:
Valley Oak
02-28-2010, 03:40 PM
Yes, Miles, it was something you typed. With every key stroke that you execute, you simulate the powerful thrusts of Thor's hammer, Mjöllnir. It is as if every one of your ten fingers come together to form an army of Mjöllnirs, pounding away with the thunder of truth and wisdom, scuttling ignorance and injustice!
Well, okay, I got a little carried away there with the metaphors. Anyway, I should correct the Press Democrat with the fact that Okili lives in Santa Rosa with his family. Iv'e been to his house quite a few times throughout the years. How the local paper got that wrong I have no idea. No biggie.
Edward
Baba,
Sounds reasonable to me! Nice Emerson quote. I've always meant to read more of him. I turned down the opportunity to take a volume of his collected works home from the office yesterday while packing up my desk. I don't have enough bookshelf space for what I already have. But now I'm beginning to regret it!
Sitting here enjoying the light (as in not heavy, not in the luminescent sense) storm while procrastinating about going out in the rain to fetch the paper.
Who knew my friend Okili was from Sebastopol? While I've seen him in "town" occasionally, it's usually been in Graton or more often in Santa Rosa. What is it about Sebastopol that it sucks all meaning in the county into its own vortex? I'll leave that question for the self-described Light Workers (or Dark Workers?) to address.
Ooh, the storm just got heavy! Could it be something I typed?!
"Mad" Miles
:burngrnbounce:
"Mad" Miles
02-28-2010, 05:43 PM
Edward,
The power of my typing was a riff on the storm getting more intense and my kidding those who read this and hold to the belief that we can effect events in the outer world, solely by the power of our thoughts.
But thanks for your complimentary recognition of my direct connection to the elemental forces of the universe. Now, if I only had a "magic wand"! Course, I wouldn't wanna "project" my reality onto anyone else... Perish the thought!
By the way, I'm holding off on revealing the "definitions" of vortician and lampolier, until others have a chance to venture their interpretations.
And if either of the waccoteers who sent me one of the words want to come out from behind the veil of lurkdom to give their account, why, illumination from the original source is highly encouraged and welcome by/from me. If you choose to remain anonymous, rest assured I will keep your identity secret, and not steal too much of your story when giving the definitions.