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Valley Oak
12-29-2009, 09:32 AM
I'm wondering why seemingly unrelated beliefs come in clusters. Many aren't really ideologically related directly, or, at least not ideologically coherent. For example, many Christians I know who are also believers in ghosts despite the fact that it is theologically incoherent. There are political examples of this too, and perhaps they are more common. I know there is research on this. Any thoughts?
CadFactor
01-06-2010, 05:06 PM
Those are the ones who are here for our amusement.
My sister is in that group. She also won't believe anything she hears on the news but will believe anything posted on some whack-job's website. All I can do is smile. :wink:
Someone brought this up on their talk show the other week...How strange it seemed to them that someone would call themselves a 'Christian' and also believe in reincarnation...
Here are a couple links to different polls done and some commentary...
..."One of the more intriguing findings is that not all people who call themselves Christians believe all the conventional Christian beliefs. For example, one percent of Christians do not believe in God, 8% do not believe in the survival of the soul after death, 7% do not believe in miracles, 5% do not believe in heaven, 7% do not believe in the Virgin birth and 18% do not believe in hell.
Even more surprising is that some people who say they are not Christian believe in the resurrection of Christ (26%) and the Virgin birth, Jesus born of Mary (27%)."...
Harris Interactive | The Harris Poll - The Religious and Other Beliefs of Americans 2003 (https://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=359)
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"A new Pew religious poll, Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life, finds (https://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091210/lf_nm_life/us_usa_religion) that many practicing American Christians believe in ghosts, astrology and reincarnation."...
New Pew poll finds many American Christians believe in ghosts, astrology and reincarnation (https://www.examiner.com/x-23325-Tampa-Deism-Examiner~y2009m12d10-New-Pew-poll-finds-many-American-Christians-believe-in-ghosts-astrology-and-reincarnation)
I'm wondering why seemingly unrelated beliefs come in clusters. Many aren't really ideologically related directly, or, at least not ideologically coherent. For example, many Christians I know who are also believers in ghosts despite the fact that it is theologically incoherent. There are political examples of this too, and perhaps they are more common. I know there is research on this. Any thoughts?
First, any true Christian would not call themselves a Christian. They would call themselves Followers of The Way. That was what they called themselves for 30 years or so after J.C died and they had a very different lifestyle and ethic and not a christian in site, but then along comes Paul and the persuasion began,
Whats such a contradiction that Christian would believe in ghosts or reincarnation? Their main man reincarnated. he just stuck around a little while before he split and then you know the big Boogy man well he got kicked out of heaven when him and god broke up and all his fellow demons came here.
Someone brought this up on their talk show the other week...How strange it seemed to them that someone would call themselves a 'Christian' and also believe in reincarnation...
Here are a couple links to different polls done and some commentary...
..."One of the more intriguing findings is that not all people who call themselves Christians believe all the conventional Christian beliefs. For example, one percent of Christians do not believe in God, 8% do not believe in the survival of the soul after death, 7% do not believe in miracles, 5% do not believe in heaven, 7% do not believe in the Virgin birth and 18% do not believe in hell.
Even more surprising is that some people who say they are not Christian believe in the resurrection of Christ (26%) and the Virgin birth, Jesus born of Mary (27%)."...
Harris Interactive | The Harris Poll - The Religious and Other Beliefs of Americans 2003 (https://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=359)
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"A new Pew religious poll, Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life, finds (https://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091210/lf_nm_life/us_usa_religion) that many practicing American Christians believe in ghosts, astrology and reincarnation."...
New Pew poll finds many American Christians believe in ghosts, astrology and reincarnation (https://www.examiner.com/x-23325-Tampa-Deism-Examiner%7Ey2009m12d10-New-Pew-poll-finds-many-American-Christians-believe-in-ghosts-astrology-and-reincarnation)
LenInSebastopol
01-16-2010, 07:49 PM
I suppose anyone can call a loaf of bread a brick and they do share some things in common; both take water to make, both need to be stirred and set aside for a time, but that does not make one t'other. So there is no "authority" on earth that can make one a christian, muslim or a jainist. And as there seems to be no consensus around here on the god thing, is it not silly to denigrate what we do not know? :hmmm:
Now that movie The Book of Eli....there was a kicker!
The sound of one hand clapping is a great bit more enjoyable than the sound of ignorance talking.