President Obama a disappointment? NOT [Archive]

View Full Version : President Obama a disappointment? NOT

oliviathunderkitty

12-03-2009, 11:13 AM

I think, or perhaps hope, that we can all agree that mainstream media does a less than stellar job in covering the complexities of the nation and the world. They are better at delving into the latest celebrity sex sandal. Thus, I want to recommend this blog by Mark Morford, an entertaining and smart columnist. It is worth it to read the entire piece and be sure to click through to the link listing 90 of President Obama's most noteworthy accomplishments.

link to the full article: Obama, the great disappointment? / The Miracle President hasn't actually accomplished much? Wrong (https://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2009/12/02/notes120209.DTL)

excerpt:

Obama, the great disappointment?

The Miracle President hasn't actually accomplished much? Wrong

By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist

Wednesday, December 2, 2009

I am here to report some good news. Times have changed. Things are not what they once were. Evolution has occurred, is occurring, just now occurred while you were reading this very sentence.

Did you feel it? Are you noticing? The new has fully arrived to replace the old, and the old is going to have to take a long nap under a tree and watch what happens while the new delves in even deeper and does the best it can under the circumstances.

There is much talk, for example, of the man known as President Obama, of his effect and impact so far, his supposed lack of marked accomplishment lo these first dozen months of this most historic and revolutionary of presidencies -- a period, by the way, I am absolutely convinced we will all look back on in 10 or 20 years and go, oh my God, there. Remember that? That was a time, wasn't it? We will sigh and smile and point at the historic pictures and say, dear God, how incredible that was. It was a difficult time, there was much acrimony and resistance, but it was amazing. And it changed everything.

phloem

12-05-2009, 01:44 PM

Morford and anyone who thinks Obama has accomplished anything are sick and twisted indications of mass delusion and denial. The reference to "god" is the clincher. You can take your faith in Obama and your worthless "god" and shove it! I'm more than sick and tired of the massive inertia and complacency that shows up here and in the rest of the servile media. Innocent people around the world continue to die because of American policies, and yet some people still think Obama's just great! Obama's record, buttressed through such delusional, illogical tripe as that exhibited by Morford, makes him and the non-thinking, mindless sheep of this country a greater danger than was Bush and Cheney. Obama is a war criminal, a fascist, and a deceiver who should be charged with treason for his betrayals.

Obama has done nothing positive and will likely not do anything positive for progressivism and democracy, and despite his Harvard education, he is still controlled by the fascist corporate, military, and banking masters. You don't undermine single-payer healthcare through deference to the murdering insurance and "healthcare" companies, continue illegal wars - increasing bombing of civilians, use of depleted uranium, use of lawless mercenary contractors, stripping the domestic budget of funds needed for basic human services, sending the poor children of America to their deaths in the process - continue the subterfuge of domestic surveillance, continue the war crimes that are torture and sanctions that kill civilians, continue the suspension of habeas corpus, ignore the serious actions needed to reduce carbon emissions by industry, bail out and subsidize the financial criminals who are destroying the economy for 98% of the population, ignore the devastating impacts of coal-mining and other resource-extractive industries on local populations, snub bans on nuclear weapons and land mines, refuse to bring to justice past war criminals and constitutional traitors, betray the legitimate residents of Palestine the right to live in peace, and then accept a "peace prize" for your lies and betrayals.

These are just a few examples of Obama's accomplishments, and they are the antithesis of the democracy and the culture that I want to live in. All of you who continue to antagonize me with your tripe about yet another fascist facilitator in the whitey house are the problem with America, and you all deserve a real hard kick in your ignorant asses.

I think, or perhaps hope, that we can all agree that mainstream media does a less than stellar job in covering the complexities of the nation and the world. They are better at delving into the latest celebrity sex sandal. Thus, I want to recommend this blog by Mark Morford, an entertaining and smart columnist. It is worth it to read the entire piece and be sure to click through to the link listing 90 of President Obama's most noteworthy accomplishments.

link to the full article: Obama, the great disappointment? / The Miracle President hasn't actually accomplished much? Wrong (https://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2009/12/02/notes120209.DTL)

excerpt:

Obama, the great disappointment?

The Miracle President hasn't actually accomplished much? Wrong

By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist

Wednesday, December 2, 2009

I am here to report some good news. Times have changed. Things are not what they once were. Evolution has occurred, is occurring, just now occurred while you were reading this very sentence.

Did you feel it? Are you noticing? The new has fully arrived to replace the old, and the old is going to have to take a long nap under a tree and watch what happens while the new delves in even deeper and does the best it can under the circumstances.

There is much talk, for example, of the man known as President Obama, of his effect and impact so far, his supposed lack of marked accomplishment lo these first dozen months of this most historic and revolutionary of presidencies -- a period, by the way, I am absolutely convinced we will all look back on in 10 or 20 years and go, oh my God, there. Remember that? That was a time, wasn't it? We will sigh and smile and point at the historic pictures and say, dear God, how incredible that was. It was a difficult time, there was much acrimony and resistance, but it was amazing. And it changed everything.

Tars

12-05-2009, 02:33 PM

Dear Phloem,

Your post is complete hogwash. Not worth even quoting any of it. Just pointing out the sad truth about your rant. If you think Obama is a "fascist" (insert whatever Hitler reference), and worse than Bush, then aside from your seeming inability to express yourself in a constructive manner, you obviously quaff from the same well of ignorance as Glenn Beck.

And, as with Beck, we "ignorant" masses, who, unlike you, may actually have a clue, would ROFL at your inanity, if we weren't so sorry for you. Don't think you're the only one who's angry as Hell. We're just wise enough not to spew it where it's undeserved.

santarosie

12-05-2009, 08:34 PM

:troll:

...
All of you who continue to antagonize me with your tripe about yet another fascist facilitator in the whitey house are the problem with America, and you all deserve a real hard kick in your ignorant asses.

Clancy

12-05-2009, 09:13 PM

Thanks phloem, but you're crying in the wilderness. Almost every complaint you listed is fact, and easily confirmed, but the reality is too frightening and painful to confront. The greatest propaganda machine in history has promised hope, and that's very compelling in these scary times.

Obama and Pelosi should be tried for treason for not prosecuting Bush/Cheney for war crimes, instead they're defending those that lied us to war, and are aggressively continuing the horror unabated.

Morford and anyone who thinks Obama has accomplished anything are sick and twisted indications of mass delusion and denial. The reference to "god" is the clincher. You can take your faith in Obama and your worthless "god" and shove it! I'm more than sick and tired of the massive inertia and complacency that shows up here and in the rest of the servile media. Innocent people around the world continue to die because of American policies, and yet some people still think Obama's just great! Obama's record, buttressed through such delusional, illogical tripe as that exhibited by Morford, makes him and the non-thinking, mindless sheep of this country a greater danger than was Bush and Cheney. Obama is a war criminal, a fascist, and a deceiver who should be charged with treason for his betrayals.

Obama has done nothing positive and will likely not do anything positive for progressivism and democracy, and despite his Harvard education, he is still controlled by the fascist corporate, military, and banking masters. You don't undermine single-payer healthcare through deference to the murdering insurance and "healthcare" companies, continue illegal wars - increasing bombing of civilians, use of depleted uranium, use of lawless mercenary contractors, stripping the domestic budget of funds needed for basic human services, sending the poor children of America to their deaths in the process - continue the subterfuge of domestic surveillance, continue the war crimes that are torture and sanctions that kill civilians, continue the suspension of habeas corpus, ignore the serious actions needed to reduce carbon emissions by industry, bail out and subsidize the financial criminals who are destroying the economy for 98% of the population, ignore the devastating impacts of coal-mining and other resource-extractive industries on local populations, snub bans on nuclear weapons and land mines, refuse to bring to justice past war criminals and constitutional traitors, betray the legitimate residents of Palestine the right to live in peace, and then accept a "peace prize" for your lies and betrayals.

These are just a few examples of Obama's accomplishments, and they are the antithesis of the democracy and the culture that I want to live in. All of you who continue to antagonize me with your tripe about yet another fascist facilitator in the whitey house are the problem with America, and you all deserve a real hard kick in your ignorant asses.

Thad

12-05-2009, 09:43 PM

Olivia thunder kitty why don't you have a blog that lives up to your name, I like it.

I just wonder what a thunder purr sounds like?

maybe your more important than who you refer

I think, or perhaps hope, that we can all agree that mainstream media does a less than stellar job in covering the complexities of the nation and the world. They are better at delving into the latest celebrity sex sandal. Thus, I want to recommend this blog by Mark Morford, an entertaining and smart columnist. It is worth it to read the entire piece and be sure to click through to the link listing 90 of President Obama's most noteworthy accomplishments.

link to the full article: Obama, the great disappointment? / The Miracle President hasn't actually accomplished much? Wrong (https://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2009/12/02/notes120209.DTL)

excerpt:

Obama, the great disappointment?

The Miracle President hasn't actually accomplished much? Wrong

By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist

Wednesday, December 2, 2009

I am here to report some good news. Times have changed. Things are not what they once were. Evolution has occurred, is occurring, just now occurred while you were reading this very sentence.

Did you feel it? Are you noticing? The new has fully arrived to replace the old, and the old is going to have to take a long nap under a tree and watch what happens while the new delves in even deeper and does the best it can under the circumstances.

There is much talk, for example, of the man known as President Obama, of his effect and impact so far, his supposed lack of marked accomplishment lo these first dozen months of this most historic and revolutionary of presidencies -- a period, by the way, I am absolutely convinced we will all look back on in 10 or 20 years and go, oh my God, there. Remember that? That was a time, wasn't it? We will sigh and smile and point at the historic pictures and say, dear God, how incredible that was. It was a difficult time, there was much acrimony and resistance, but it was amazing. And it changed everything.

podfish

12-06-2009, 02:04 PM

Glen Beck?? I suppose they both have an extreme point of view, but Beck's is imaginary - Phloem's is utopian. Because utopian ideals are more familiar when expressed in soft focus it may not be obvious here. I actually agree in principal with Phloem's points. Obama can be as realpolitik as Kissinger, I think. But the society it seems Phloem envisions isn't one you're going to reach from here, certainly not by attacking it head-on, and no-one's going to reach a position of power who hasn't made a variety of accommodations to the forces in power now. However there's no virtue in bending over for reality and practicality. Someone's got to make sure the emperor stays naked.

Hotspring 44

12-06-2009, 02:30 PM

One side sees Oboma as a <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="ProgId" content="Word.Document"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 11"><meta name="Originator" content="Microsoft Word 11"><link rel="File-List" href="file:///C:%5CDOCUME%7E1%5CSH%5CLOCALS%7E1%5CTemp%5Cmsohtml1%5C01%5Cclip_filelist.xml"><style>  </style>Chameleon and the other sees him as a socialist/communist. Those in the middle don't have enough time between, work, and their life's demands to look at it one way or the other. :2cents:

Tars

12-06-2009, 09:21 PM

no-one's going to reach a position of power who hasn't made a variety of accommodations to the forces in power now.

"'Twas Ever thus!" - Dr. Atomic

there's no virtue in bending over for reality and practicality. Hmmm...what's it mean?

"No virtue" = "not good"

"bending over" = "being extremely receptive to", or possibly "submitting to"

"reality" = "the way it actually is", in another word, "truth"

"practicality" = "logical behavior" or maybe "efficiency"

I'm trying to understand your point there. So I translate it into maybe, a more accessible form:

"It's not good being extremely receptive to the truth, or logical behavior".

Nope, it still doesn't seem to make sense, even translated. What the heck'd you mean, anyway?

podfish

12-07-2009, 08:34 AM

I'm just trying to give some respect to those who are unwilling to accept the status quo. Something Sancho may have said about Don Quixote if Cervantes was less articulate.

"'Twas Ever thus!" - Dr. Atomic

Hmmm...what's it mean?

Nope, it still doesn't seem to make sense, even translated. What the heck'd you mean, anyway?

ItsaNewDawn

12-07-2009, 09:30 PM

Ive noticed many people who are VERY down on Obama seem to be spouting the headlines, and maybe not have seen or looked for more info.
Personally, I have noticed that this is the MOST times Ive seen a president actually DOING things. everyday. there is the whitehouse.gov on utube and the numerous other great things they are all doing. One can remember how much there is to be done..
Also, I am disappointed bout him declaring war again- more in afgan.. this is the first time Ive been bummed from them. so yes war is not the answer. but look at us here, there is a small war going on. if we can balance and make peace w us then it can be done in the bigger picture.:thumbsup:
blessings to us all figuring it out and acting in peace. :)