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PreMa
10-26-2009, 12:57 PM
Is anyone aware of or monitoring the amount of chemtrails over So Co lately? I’ve been observing and doing research on this topic after finding myself with several symptoms after their appearance in the sky. I would like to communicate with others and share information. I found one website which is dealing with this subject and encourages people all over the world to get involved and share information and take action. It is Chemtrails Connect (https://chemtrailsconnect.com/)
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Bryan
10-28-2009, 04:26 PM
I found this information about 'chemtrails':

Chemtrail conspiracy theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory)

The Owl
10-28-2009, 10:37 PM
Thank you for posting the Wikipedia result. More people should take a course or two in meteorology and they'd know that variances in upper atmosphere conditions lend themselves to contrails that persist some days and disappear instantly on others. Maybe then they wouldn't be so gullible to the charlatans on the radio hawking their latest book or speaking engagement. ...

sharingwisdom
10-30-2009, 12:32 AM
Since when is Wikipedia the authority in what is going on in the world? They have purposely censored information from groups that I belong to.

A Lousianna TV station did research on chemtrails and found high levels of barium in it (among other chemicals). They also reported that chemtrails were mentioned, by name, in the 2001 initial draft of the Space Preservation Act but the military denied it.(it's there in black and white).
YouTube - Local news station confirms barium in chemtrails (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okB-489l6MI&feature=PlayList&p=D9E366DCED4BE303&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=26)

There was a bill that was supposed to be voted on in the Senate, The Weather Modification Act, that even stated it was attempting to change or control, by artificial methods, the natural development of atmospheric clouds forms. (NBC News-Chemtrail over CA. YouTube - NBC NEWS - Chemtrails over California? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIe0ZVF1rPc&feature=related)

Chemtrails are not just in the US. They are around the world. The German Military has been exposed in their experimentation. The German Federal Army is manipulating the climate, and it has been confirmed. There is a group of Meterologists who are taking the military to court. YouTube - Chemtrail Proof - German Military Exposed. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaPqCMIuEk4&feature=related)

In the Discovery Channel 3-part presentation on Chemtrails, they even say that it's an established fact that it effects climate change. William Thomas, a journalist, reported that very high levels of emergency room admissions, 2 to 3 times above normal, in 122 cities which were not the flu, but doctors didn't know what it was. Correspondents in those cities contacted Thomas saying there was heavy chemtrail activity. And air traffic controllers have privately expressed their concern, to the investigators, of public health problems because of the particulate matter that comes down from the chemtrails. This could be viruses, bacteris and fungi that live and breed in the upper atmosphere.
YouTube - Chemtrails on the Discovery Channel part 1 of 3 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C82bSd5Vswg&feature=related)

The US Air Force releases aluminum coated fiber glass, called CHAF, over CA. and other states. It's ejected from the underbelly of military aircrafts to confuse radar and avoid detections for "enemy" surveillance. It can be used to track weather modification experiments. The Department of Defense held conferences on weather modification back in 2005.

In 2005, the US Government also established the Federal Bureau of Weather Modification in DC, a gov't madnated agency whose stated mission is to modify weather and climate. YouTube - Chemtrails on the Discovery Channel part 3 of 3 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4W83H42Wd8&feature=related)

I have watched the difference of contrails coming off planes and chemtrails as they spread out, the different patterns and more. I feel that it's important that people be informed, do your own research and understand that the government isn't known for telling the truth.



Thank you for posting the Wikipedia result. More people should take a course or two in meteorology and they'd know that variances in upper atmosphere conditions lend themselves to contrails that persist some days and disappear instantly on others. Maybe then they wouldn't be so gullible to the charlatans on the radio hawking their latest book or speaking engagement. ...

The Owl
10-30-2009, 06:48 PM
Since when is Wikipedia the authority in what is going on in the world? They have purposely censored information from groups that I belong to.

A Lousianna TV station did research on chemtrails and found high levels of barium in it (among other chemicals). They also reported that chemtrails were mentioned, by name, in the 2001 initial draft of the Space Preservation Act but the military denied it.(it's there in black and white).
YouTube - Local news station confirms barium in chemtrails (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okB-489l6MI&feature=PlayList&p=D9E366DCED4BE303&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=26)

There was a bill that was supposed to be voted on in the Senate, The Weather Modification Act, that even stated it was attempting to change or control, by artificial methods, the natural development of atmospheric clouds forms. (NBC News-Chemtrail over CA. YouTube - NBC NEWS - Chemtrails over California? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIe0ZVF1rPc&feature=related)

Chemtrails are not just in the US. They are around the world. The German Military has been exposed in their experimentation. The German Federal Army is manipulating the climate, and it has been confirmed. There is a group of Meterologists who are taking the military to court. YouTube - Chemtrail Proof - German Military Exposed. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaPqCMIuEk4&feature=related)

In the Discovery Channel 3-part presentation on Chemtrails, they even say that it's an established fact that it effects climate change. William Thomas, a journalist, reported that very high levels of emergency room admissions, 2 to 3 times above normal, in 122 cities which were not the flu, but doctors didn't know what it was. Correspondents in those cities contacted Thomas saying there was heavy chemtrail activity. And air traffic controllers have privately expressed their concern, to the investigators, of public health problems because of the particulate matter that comes down from the chemtrails. This could be viruses, bacteris and fungi that live and breed in the upper atmosphere.
YouTube - Chemtrails on the Discovery Channel part 1 of 3 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C82bSd5Vswg&feature=related)

The US Air Force releases aluminum coated fiber glass, called CHAF, over CA. and other states. It's ejected from the underbelly of military aircrafts to confuse radar and avoid detections for "enemy" surveillance. It can be used to track weather modification experiments. The Department of Defense held conferences on weather modification back in 2005.

In 2005, the US Government also established the Federal Bureau of Weather Modification in DC, a gov't madnated agency whose stated mission is to modify weather and climate. YouTube - Chemtrails on the Discovery Channel part 3 of 3 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4W83H42Wd8&feature=related)

I have watched the difference of contrails coming off planes and chemtrails as they spread out, the different patterns and more. I feel that it's important that people be informed, do your own research and understand that the government isn't known for telling the truth.

Right, like I said, lots of people making a living off the unfounded fear and ignorance of masses conditioned by television and talk radio. There are indeed some ill conceived government programs to study ways to modify weather but they don't involve spraying anything from airliners. At this point they are trying to discern just how much the weather patterns of the decades ahead will vary from the ones today based on changes in airflow from the equator to the poles. These studies involve weather satellites and balloons. Contrails spread or disappate according to the amount of humidity in the particular body of air they are injected into. It's not for me to try to change your beliefs... you are welcome to them.

broadbandersnatch
10-30-2009, 07:47 PM
I used to think as you do, but I have done some more research and am satisfied that these are actually persistent contrails. The result, as one of our astronauts has blogged about, is that they do change weather because there are so many more jets flying today then there were when we were kids. This astronaut, (one of the famous ones whose name escapes me at the moment,) had an amazing photo on his site that showed the earth just covered with these trails. it is a real problem, but most likely not a secret conspiracy. This doesn't make it a good thing. And I'm not saying there haven't been actual attempts to manipulate our weather in the past. We also know the military really did drop some gnarly stuff over SF in the 60s(?) that made some people get sick and at least in one documented case an older woman died from respiratory complications. Nonetheless, I think it is scary enough to contemplate the possibility that persistent contrails are causeing environmental changes without having to bring in the "C" word.



Since when is Wikipedia the authority in what is going on in the world? They have purposely censored information from groups that I belong to.

A Lousianna TV station did research on chemtrails and found high levels of barium in it (among other chemicals). They also reported that chemtrails were mentioned, by name, in the 2001 initial draft of the Space Preservation Act but the military denied it.(it's there in black and white).
YouTube - Local news station confirms barium in chemtrails (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okB-489l6MI&feature=PlayList&p=D9E366DCED4BE303&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=26)

There was a bill that was supposed to be voted on in the Senate, The Weather Modification Act, that even stated it was attempting to change or control, by artificial methods, the natural development of atmospheric clouds forms. (NBC News-Chemtrail over CA. YouTube - NBC NEWS - Chemtrails over California? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIe0ZVF1rPc&feature=related)

Chemtrails are not just in the US. They are around the world. The German Military has been exposed in their experimentation. The German Federal Army is manipulating the climate, and it has been confirmed. There is a group of Meterologists who are taking the military to court. YouTube - Chemtrail Proof - German Military Exposed. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaPqCMIuEk4&feature=related)

In the Discovery Channel 3-part presentation on Chemtrails, they even say that it's an established fact that it effects climate change. William Thomas, a journalist, reported that very high levels of emergency room admissions, 2 to 3 times above normal, in 122 cities which were not the flu, but doctors didn't know what it was. Correspondents in those cities contacted Thomas saying there was heavy chemtrail activity. And air traffic controllers have privately expressed their concern, to the investigators, of public health problems because of the particulate matter that comes down from the chemtrails. This could be viruses, bacteris and fungi that live and breed in the upper atmosphere.
YouTube - Chemtrails on the Discovery Channel part 1 of 3 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C82bSd5Vswg&feature=related)

The US Air Force releases aluminum coated fiber glass, called CHAF, over CA. and other states. It's ejected from the underbelly of military aircrafts to confuse radar and avoid detections for "enemy" surveillance. It can be used to track weather modification experiments. The Department of Defense held conferences on weather modification back in 2005.

In 2005, the US Government also established the Federal Bureau of Weather Modification in DC, a gov't madnated agency whose stated mission is to modify weather and climate. YouTube - Chemtrails on the Discovery Channel part 3 of 3 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4W83H42Wd8&feature=related)

I have watched the difference of contrails coming off planes and chemtrails as they spread out, the different patterns and more. I feel that it's important that people be informed, do your own research and understand that the government isn't known for telling the truth.

The Owl
10-30-2009, 10:54 PM
I used to think as you do, but I have done some more research and am satisfied that these are actually persistent contrails. The result, as one of our astronauts has blogged about, is that they do change weather because there are so many more jets flying today then there were when we were kids. This astronaut, (one of the famous ones whose name escapes me at the moment,) had an amazing photo on his site that showed the earth just covered with these trails. it is a real problem, but most likely not a secret conspiracy. This doesn't make it a good thing. And I'm not saying there haven't been actual attempts to manipulate our weather in the past. We also know the military really did drop some gnarly stuff over SF in the 60s(?) that made some people get sick and at least in one documented case an older woman died from respiratory complications. Nonetheless, I think it is scary enough to contemplate the possibility that persistent contrails are causeing environmental changes without having to bring in the "C" word.

You are quite right about the fact that before there were jet air craft regularly cruising the stratosphere, that atmospheric layer was weather free... the presence of large amounts of water vapor there from the jet exhaust is something new on the planet and certainly does affect weather in the lower atmosphere and the amount of light reaching the surface of the earth.