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eggplant
08-02-2009, 11:35 AM
DO you have any remedies? Help me - quick! [email protected] Thanks.

Sylph
08-02-2009, 03:03 PM
Ooh, sorry you've got poison oak! I swear by Technu lotion. You use it to 'unlock' the toxic oils from your skin (you apply it and then rinse it off) and it will greatly reduce or eliminate your itchy rash. I keep a container of it handy at all times.


DO you have any remedies? Help me - quick! [email protected] Thanks.

"Mad" Miles
08-02-2009, 03:40 PM
And once you've "unlocked" the toxic oils (?! Never heard of this...) repeated slatherings of Hydrocortisone Cream until the symptoms disappear. If you want a stronger solution than 1% you'll have to go to a doctor for a prescription.

Check out the following for more info:

Poison Ivy, Oak and Sumac: MedlinePlus (https://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/poisonivyoakandsumac.html#cat3)

"Mad" Miles

:burngrnbounce:

photolite
08-02-2009, 08:17 PM
I've found that calamine lotion provides relief but if it's pretty bad you should go see your doctor and get a shot. I didn't and it lasted two weeks. My daughter did and it started abating rapidly.
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C Tut
08-03-2009, 10:48 AM
I am very allergic to poison oak, so I feel your pain. I love the Technu for rash prevention, but once you have an itchy rash get the Technu Extreme. It is gritty, so feels absolutely wonderful to rub the rash with...a godsend. The Technu itch relief spray also works very well. Also, I saw a post about using cortisone, which does work, but I would caution against using it on your face; for some people it can cause bleaching of the skin, especially in sensitive areas and the face. It is also good to keep in mind that Cortisone cremes and shots are Steroids, so I personally always use them as a last resort. Good luck, and remember, the more you itch it, the longer you will have it.

jryeo
08-03-2009, 12:01 PM
Oh boy. I've been there many times and feel your pain.

I've tried all the folk remedies and OTC "cures." Nothing works once the rash has started.

For me it's three weeks of torture with blisters and scarring. The only thing that works for me is a cortizone shot, or prednisone pills. I prefer the prednisone.

As others have mentioned, prevention is key. Learn to identify the plant - I can spot it from a mile away now. If you must come in contact with it, you MUST wash with a strong soap and cold water within a few hours. Otherwise it's misery.

photolite
08-03-2009, 02:19 PM
Also, benadryl will help with the itching.
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"Mad" Miles
08-03-2009, 02:38 PM
Hey Fellow Itchers,

Much of the advice that has been given duplicates the information available on the link (or in links in that link) that I provided. But that's cool. The more the merrier!

One thing I recall that was emphasized in my brief research is that antihistamines (benadryl, etc.) should be take orally or be injected. Topical antihistamine creams may excacerbate the problem.

Also they emphasized that calamine lotion should not be used near the eyes, mouth or any other orifice.

I like the website because it is as reputable as they come, and someone on this board first introduced it to me.

When I was first tested for allergies. I had to lay on the examining table for five minutes, alone, while the scratch tests on my back had time to "take". My knuckles were white from the vise grip I was using on the edge of the table. You're not allowed to scratch.

That's when I realized that pain does not need to be used for torture. Just induce unreleaved intense itching and your victim will crack in no time!

And no, I'm not proposing this as a method. I consider any and all torture to be a human rights crime. How come our official perps haven't been prosecuted? John Yoo, where are you?

"Mad" Miles

:burngrnbounce:

galephil
08-03-2009, 09:20 PM
DO you have any remedies? Help me - quick! [email protected] Thanks.

Hello from another PO sensitive...

Two things I have learned:
Wash EVERYTHING you have worn since you were exposed. If the oils are still on them and you wear them, you will cause additional rashes.

You can desensitize the "itch" with very hot water. If you run water as hot as you can stand on the rash, it will itch intensely while you do it and then the itch reduces significantly for several hours. The doctor who advised me to do this says you over-amp the itch sensors by doing this. Lots of folks will tell you that this will spread the rash. That only happens if the oils have not already been washed off. You may have additional rash appear; that happens as a result of the natural "bloom" of the rash. You can also get some temporary relief by slapping the rash if you do not have access to hot water.

I hope you get some relief!
Gale

hearthstone
08-03-2009, 09:56 PM
DO you have any remedies? Help me - quick! [email protected] Thanks.

No quick fix, sorry; but--when in a poison oak country, eat a little (a miniscule!--a little tiny bit!--see the disclaimer!) of poison oak leaf--the tip of a leaf every day.

I used to suffer, but when I started the prevention route, I found I was able to even sleep in the stuff with no aftereffects.

This recipe is said to be of American Indian origin, which makes sense.

The "small print":
Try at your own risk--I am too poor to even pay any attention to anyone.

Sincerely - Hearthstone.

Sciguy
08-03-2009, 10:37 PM
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<style></style>Jackie:
I have had poison ivy (on the east coast) and poison oak all my life. I once came close to dying from poison ivy (the same thing as poison oak for all practical purposes) and I was saved by a doctor who did not do dances around the maypole intoning ghostly stories about oil and magic salves. He knew what he was doing and he cured me overnight and ever since then I don't worry about it. I get it for a few days, get rid of it and it's a minor annoyance.

You have to ignore all the old wive's tales about water spreading it and spreading the oil and all the rest. As if a few leaves could leave you exuding buckets of some arcane oil running all over your body etc. Give me a break!

The secret to treating poison oak is to soak in water. That's not the whole story but that is the core treatment. Soak in hot water if you like, soak in a pool, soak at the seashore, in a bath, in a hotspring, it makes no difference. By the time you have spent six or ten hours or so in a bath you won't have anything to worry about.

Here's the icing. If you want an epithelial orgasm (I'll bet the Tantrics never thought of that one) just take some hot water, as hot as you can reasonably stand, and direct it at any part of your skin that might have poison oak erupting, whether already erupted or even not yet erupted. Not your eyes of course but your scrotum or penis (first to go on a man), legs, arms, face etc. or anywhere else it is likely to erupt. Of course you control the temperature so you don't hurt or burn yourself but that's under your control. What you will experience is all of the nerve endings wherever poison oak is about to raise its little heads, all firing at once in the most exquisite rush of itching relief you will ever feel in your life. It feels so good that you won't want it to end. But like all orgasms, end it does and the hot water has no further effect. However, you will not feel any itching for four to six hours, and then a few hours later, lucky you gets to try it again. It may feel so good that you will run outside and roll in the poison oak - now you are a po junkie (just kidding).

An extra benefit is that you can tell where the skin is already inflamed but there is no emergent sign yet. There will be a strong itching relief on what looks like healthy skin. Not everywhere, only where the po has secretly dug itself in.

After you start this, and better if you marry it to soaking, the po will stop spreading, will retreat into its lair and begin to vanish. Note - I don't know if this scalding part is necessary therapy but it's a perk. And it eliminates all the itching.

Most people can't believe in this scalding behavior even though I can assure you I've been doing all my adult life. So try it just on your hands to begin with. Once you get that rush, you will be a convert.

While we are on the subject, it is possible to overdo this. Once I overdid the heat treatment on a leg (too hot, too often) and sort of fried the nerves. I lost local feeling. But a month later the skin recovered. So I learned there are limits but I never again encountered them.

There you have it. If you don't want to accept personal experience, just itch your way to cream and salve heaven. Go do yoga and dance around the maypole. Probably all useless, but it's your skin.

Paul Palmer

Sciguy
08-03-2009, 11:03 PM
I only wanted to respond to the mention of calamine lotion. What a joke, except to the company that keeps churning it out year after year. This remedy from our Neanderthal grandmothers is more useless than prayer, or drinking funny water by the light of the moon. Even the medical establishment has disowned it. But because medicine has that ineffable quality of never being able to be fully discounted by anecdote, it lives on. After you have slathered it on once, to no conceivable positive effect, isn't it time to move on? I had figured that out by the age of ten. But alas. If we finally figure out that an orange liquid is useless, they will come out with "New Improved" Blue Calamine Lotion and the cycle will begin all over. Patients never win!

Paul


Hey Fellow Itchers,

Much of the advice that has been given duplicates the information available on the link (or in links in that link) that I provided. But that's cool. The more the merrier!

One thing I recall that was emphasized in my brief research is that antihistamines (benadryl, etc.) should be take orally or be injected. Topical antihistamine creams may excacerbate the problem.

Also they emphasized that calamine lotion should not be used near the eyes, mouth or any other orifice.

I like the website because it is as reputable as they come, and someone on this board first introduced it to me.

When I was first tested for allergies. I had to lay on the examining table for five minutes, alone, while the scratch tests on my back had time to "take". My knuckles were white from the vise grip I was using on the edge of the table. You're not allowed to scratch.

That's when I realized that pain does not need to be used for torture. Just induce unreleaved intense itching and your victim will crack in no time!

And no, I'm not proposing this as a method. I consider any and all torture to be a human rights crime. How come our official perps haven't been prosecuted? John Yoo, where are you?

"Mad" Miles

:burngrnbounce:

dominus
08-04-2009, 11:25 AM
Vitamin C is a natural anti-histamine however you'll have to take it in large amounts. Anywhere from 3000 Mg.-10000 mg. until some of the itch subsides. The only caveat is that it can loosen your bowels. Additionally, Andrew Weil recommends, when possible, to apply the hottest water that you can stand - ideally usuing a spray such as the shower. The heat knocks out the itch for several hours. Lastly, there is a homeopathic remedy you can take which can help your system to become immune and to aid further occurences.

Techno is great stuff but the lotion only helps unless you've been exposed within the first few hours. The anti-itch gel is excellent after you've applied very hot water. The combo tends to work best for me along with Vitamin C. I've found benadryl to be barely noticeable with very little impact.

Lorrie
08-04-2009, 12:59 PM
DO NOT SCRATCH!!!!:thumbsup:


DO you have any remedies? Help me - quick! [email protected] Thanks.

Cheingrand
08-04-2009, 05:44 PM
[quote=Sciguy;94681]<STYLE></STYLE>
Here's the icing. If you want an epithelial orgasm (I'll bet the Tantrics never thought of that one) just take some hot water, as hot as you can reasonably stand, and direct it at any part of your skin that might have poison oak erupting, whether already erupted or even not yet erupted.

You're on the money here, Sciguy. When I've had Poison Oak (Rhus diversiloba or Toxidendron diversiloba), very hot water has been the only relief with the orgasmic sensation you relate above. My wife will yell out, "What's going on in the shower?", and I will answer, "Nothing, I'm just treating my dermatitus." That hot water feels so good.

photolite
08-04-2009, 06:10 PM
I've tried this soak/scald method. It did not abate. It spread.
Contrary to another poster, I've found great relief from calamine lotion but it was by no means a panacea. It helped for half a day for which I was grateful.
Urushiol is the irritant and a tiny amount of it can indeed infect other parts if spread around before removal. I'd be very, very careful about ingesting such a toxic substance.
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<style></style>Jackie:
I have had poison ivy (on the east coast) and poison oak all my life. I once came close to dying from poison ivy (the same thing as poison oak for all practical purposes) and I was saved by a doctor who did not do dances around the maypole intoning ghostly stories about oil and magic salves. He knew what he was doing and he cured me overnight and ever since then I don't worry about it. I get it for a few days, get rid of it and it's a minor annoyance.

You have to ignore all the old wive's tales about water spreading it and spreading the oil and all the rest. As if a few leaves could leave you exuding buckets of some arcane oil running all over your body etc. Give me a break!

The secret to treating poison oak is to soak in water. That's not the whole story but that is the core treatment. Soak in hot water if you like, soak in a pool, soak at the seashore, in a bath, in a hotspring, it makes no difference. By the time you have spent six or ten hours or so in a bath you won't have anything to worry about.

Here's the icing. If you want an epithelial orgasm (I'll bet the Tantrics never thought of that one) just take some hot water, as hot as you can reasonably stand, and direct it at any part of your skin that might have poison oak erupting, whether already erupted or even not yet erupted. Not your eyes of course but your scrotum or penis (first to go on a man), legs, arms, face etc. or anywhere else it is likely to erupt. Of course you control the temperature so you don't hurt or burn yourself but that's under your control. What you will experience is all of the nerve endings wherever poison oak is about to raise its little heads, all firing at once in the most exquisite rush of itching relief you will ever feel in your life. It feels so good that you won't want it to end. But like all orgasms, end it does and the hot water has no further effect. However, you will not feel any itching for four to six hours, and then a few hours later, lucky you gets to try it again. It may feel so good that you will run outside and roll in the poison oak - now you are a po junkie (just kidding).

An extra benefit is that you can tell where the skin is already inflamed but there is no emergent sign yet. There will be a strong itching relief on what looks like healthy skin. Not everywhere, only where the po has secretly dug itself in.

After you start this, and better if you marry it to soaking, the po will stop spreading, will retreat into its lair and begin to vanish. Note - I don't know if this scalding part is necessary therapy but it's a perk. And it eliminates all the itching.

Most people can't believe in this scalding behavior even though I can assure you I've been doing all my adult life. So try it just on your hands to begin with. Once you get that rush, you will be a convert.

While we are on the subject, it is possible to overdo this. Once I overdid the heat treatment on a leg (too hot, too often) and sort of fried the nerves. I lost local feeling. But a month later the skin recovered. So I learned there are limits but I never again encountered them.

There you have it. If you don't want to accept personal experience, just itch your way to cream and salve heaven. Go do yoga and dance around the maypole. Probably all useless, but it's your skin.

Paul Palmer

arcticsatellite
08-04-2009, 08:52 PM
Manzanita Magic!

I had blistering poison oak that was very painful just last month, almost to the point where it seemed wise to pick up a pair of crutches. (It was on my lower left leg, and with the applied pressure of the body weight it was suprisingly painful...) After applying this for a few days though, it dried up almost instantaneously. Also, Aloe Vera gel helps to soothe it too. :): You can pick the Manzanita Magic up at Community Market in Santa Rosa, probably in other stores as well. I can't recommend it enough though. Good Luck!

Deborah Thayer
08-05-2009, 08:44 PM
Colloidal Oatmeal bath soak available at any drug store is really wonderfull and provides immediate itch relief. It's cooling for flea allergy on animals, too, blotted on with a cotton ball and leaves a harmless residue that animals will want to lick anyhow.

Taking a low dose antihistamine such as benydrel has nipped my systemic reactions in the bud by taking it at onset and religiously thereafter until over the worst of the po.

Avoid eucalyptus cashew and mango oils or fruits for the outbreak as they are related oilwise. Wearing silk was the only tolerable fabric for the worst times or nudity, swimming in the ocean or at calistoga.