How to make your own:
The Recipe for Oleander Soup - Tips and Advice (https://www.tbyil.com/tips.htm)
Sylph
05-18-2009, 12:00 PM
Be very, very, very careful! Some types of oleander are more toxic than others. There are no human trials on "Oleander soup" as a cancer therapy. Many substances, like bleach, kill cancer cells in a petri dish, but you wouldn't drink them.
"I did some searches for oleander and oleandrin and cancer. All I could find were a couple of cell culture studies. Oh, and I found this page at M.D. Anderson. Basically, it says:
Laboratory studies of oleander suggest possible anti-cancer effects, although reliable research in humans is not currently available. There are reports that long-term use of oleander may have positive effects in patients with leiomyosarcoma, Ewing's sarcoma, prostate cancer or breast cancer. More research is needed before a recommendation can be made.
Side Effects and Warnings:
Common oleander contains a strychnine-like toxin and a heart-active cardiac glycoside substance (similar to the prescription drug digoxin) that may cause the heart to beat rapidly or abnormally, or to stop beating. Common oleander has been used as rat poison, insecticide and fish poison and is toxic to mammals including humans. Animals (sheep) have died after eating as little as two to three leaves of Nerium oleander (common oleander). Children may die after eating a single leaf of common oleander. Eating the leaves, flowers or bark of common oleander may cause nausea, vomiting, stomach cramps, pain, fatigue, drowsiness, unsteadiness, bloody diarrhea, abnormal heart rhythms, seizures, liver or kidney damage or unconsciousness. Death may occur within one day. Reports of toxicity and deaths in children and adults have been reported for decades in Australia, India, Sri Lanka and the United States.
Fruits of Thevetin peruviana (yellow oleander) are thought to be even more toxic to mammals, including humans. Based on human studies of intentional overdose (suicide attempts), eating eight or more seeds of yellow oleander may be fatal. Additional side effects of oleander ingestion include irritation and redness of lips, gums and tongue, nausea, vomiting, depression, irritability, fast breathing, sweating, stomach pain, diarrhea, headache, confusion, visual disturbances and constricted pupils. Abnormal blood tests, including tests of liver and kidney function (potassium, bilirubin, creatinine and blood urea), have been reported in humans.It is possible that plants grown in the same soil as oleander plants or in soil exposed to oleander may contain trace amounts of oleander."
Lots more discussion on this blog:
Abusing celebrities with cancer in order to promote quackery : Respectful Insolence (https://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/01/abusing_celebrities_with_cancer_to_sell.php)
phooph
05-18-2009, 11:51 PM
Oleander has been used for centuries in the Middle East and Africa to treat a number of diseases including cancer. Raw oleander and solids from the oleander contain toxins. A water extraction of oleander that is carefully filtered to remove solids as in the recipe for oleander soup is safe. The only caution is for people with heart problems as it contains a heart stimulant.
An alcohol extraction of oleander would also be toxic as alcohol is a solvent for the toxins in the oleander. Alcohol can be added to a water extraction as a preservative after the "tea" is finished and all solid filtered out.
I am a member of an online group that includes a large number of people using oleander soup. Many of them have cancer and are making their own or are purchasing it from overseas in liquid or capsules. (There is even an IV form that can be purchased. Very expensive!) These folks often post their lab results indicating their progress on the protocol. From what I can see, most are halting the disease process and others are showing progress toward better health.
Having easy access to oleander I actually made some oleander soup and have used it with no adverse effects except for the taste which is very bitter. Still here. Have not dropped dead. On PubMed I found that it had been fed to 39 beagles with no toxic effects. There is quite a bit of research on oleander and a search of PubMed will turn up a bunch of results.
Another side effect I hear from people using it is that it speeds up the growth of hair.
Be very, very, very careful! Some types of oleander are more toxic than others. There are no human trials on "Oleander soup" as a cancer therapy. Many substances, like bleach, kill cancer cells in a petri dish, but you wouldn't drink them.
"I did some searches for oleander and oleandrin and cancer. All I could find were a couple of cell culture studies. Oh, and I found this page at M.D. Anderson. Basically, it says:
Laboratory studies of oleander suggest possible anti-cancer effects, although reliable research in humans is not currently available. There are reports that long-term use of oleander may have positive effects in patients with leiomyosarcoma, Ewing's sarcoma, prostate cancer or breast cancer. More research is needed before a recommendation can be made.
Side Effects and Warnings:
Common oleander contains a strychnine-like toxin and a heart-active cardiac glycoside substance (similar to the prescription drug digoxin) that may cause the heart to beat rapidly or abnormally, or to stop beating. Common oleander has been used as rat poison, insecticide and fish poison and is toxic to mammals including humans. Animals (sheep) have died after eating as little as two to three leaves of Nerium oleander (common oleander). Children may die after eating a single leaf of common oleander. Eating the leaves, flowers or bark of common oleander may cause nausea, vomiting, stomach cramps, pain, fatigue, drowsiness, unsteadiness, bloody diarrhea, abnormal heart rhythms, seizures, liver or kidney damage or unconsciousness. Death may occur within one day. Reports of toxicity and deaths in children and adults have been reported for decades in Australia, India, Sri Lanka and the United States.
Fruits of Thevetin peruviana (yellow oleander) are thought to be even more toxic to mammals, including humans. Based on human studies of intentional overdose (suicide attempts), eating eight or more seeds of yellow oleander may be fatal. Additional side effects of oleander ingestion include irritation and redness of lips, gums and tongue, nausea, vomiting, depression, irritability, fast breathing, sweating, stomach pain, diarrhea, headache, confusion, visual disturbances and constricted pupils. Abnormal blood tests, including tests of liver and kidney function (potassium, bilirubin, creatinine and blood urea), have been reported in humans.It is possible that plants grown in the same soil as oleander plants or in soil exposed to oleander may contain trace amounts of oleander."
Lots more discussion on this blog:
Abusing celebrities with cancer in order to promote quackery : Respectful Insolence (https://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/01/abusing_celebrities_with_cancer_to_sell.php)