Community of spiritual beings with and without bodies

[MsTerry]

3 Navy seals shot the three pirates holding Captain Phillips hostage in the head simultaniously, killing them instantly because they believed Phillips was in immediate danger. Do you agree with their decision?

God Bless

I agree with you that it is better to pass judgment after a fair trial.
What do you think Jesus would have done in that situation?
Did your God Bless the alleged Pirates too?

[MsTerry]

I cannot judge or condemn anyone. I am not qualified. You on the other hand believe you are.
When did I make that statement?



And I am not the one who said they are pirates, The Government and the media did.
Parroting others makes it your judgment by default.

[dw41552]

I agree with you that it is better to pass judgment after a fair trial.
What do you think Jesus would have done in that situation?
Did your God Bless the alleged Pirates too?

You refuse to answer my question, Therefor I will not answer yours.

[dw41552]

I am done. I judge or condemn no one. It's obvious you all are set in your ways and you reject God's way and I am sad, but I will continue to pray for you all.

I've had a tough life until I finally humbed myself before my one and only God. Now I know why I'm here, and what my purpose is. My God has set me free, and now I have peace, which brings tears of joy to my eyes. I am on a journey to an eternal life of bliss with my Father in heaven. My Lord and Savior Jesus Christ leads the way, and the Holy Spirit helps me along my journey. I wish everyone could see what I see. I must move on as there are many hurting people who need what I have.

God Bless all

Matthew 10:13-15 (New King James Version)

<SUP class=versenum id=en-NKJV-23425 value="13">13</SUP> If the household is worthy, let your peace come upon it. But if it is not worthy, let your peace return to you. <SUP class=versenum id=en-NKJV-23426 value="14">14</SUP> And whoever will not receive you nor hear your words, when you depart from that house or city, shake off the dust from your feet. <SUP class=versenum id=en-NKJV-23427 value="15">15</SUP> Assuredly, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city!

[MsTerry]

Wrong, Butch.
I refuse to judge a situation that I don't know, that's all.
But why doyou want me to judge it, that is the real QUESTION?


You refuse to answer my question, Therefor I will not answer yours.

[Lorrie]

Ok then if I am not Satan, how come you say I know so much about Satan?
Did I ever make that statement?

No.
Just a feeling I have.
Probably from all the Devil's avocating you do.

[MsTerry]

Probably from all the Devil's advocating you do.

Everyone is entitled to a lawyer.

[MsTerry]

3 Navy seals shot the three pirates holding Captain Phillips hostage in the head simultaniously, killing them instantly because they believed Phillips was in immediate danger. Do you agree with their decision?


I just read in the news that another bunch of Somali's have taken 60 hostages.
Not one but SIXTY!
Apparently the death penalty is not a deterrent, in fact they just increase the number of hostages (and casualties) to protect themselves.
So, to answer your Q, I think they made they the wrong decision.

[dw41552]

I just read in the news that another bunch of Somali's have taken 60 hostages.
Not one but SIXTY!
Apparently the death penalty is not a deterrent, in fact they just increase the number of hostages (and casualties) to protect themselves.
So, to answer your Q, I think they made they the wrong decision.

MsTerry

Thankyou! That's all I asked and I respect your opinion. That was a tough question.

I don't know what you read but it's not true. Some Samali pirates tried to take another American vessel yesterday, also hauling humanitarian supplies to Kenya, but failed to board the ship. The Navy once again came to the rescue and is escorting the ship. The only reason they attacked another US vessel is because they were out for revenge because of the three that were killed on Sunday.

Now remember, where this is happening there is no law. This is only the second time anyone has stood up, took a stand, and sucessfully rescued an innocent hostage. Everyone has been paying the ransom demands which has made piracy a lucrative business in that area. Once they start arming the crews like they have airline pilots you'll see a lot less highjackings I assure you.

Personally I agree with what they did. Captain Phillips is a brave man. He offered himself up as a hostage so his crew could escape. That kind of man in my book deserves to be saved. It's unfortunate that the pirates had to die but they knew when they chose this kind of criminal lifestyle that their lives would always be at risk. If someone was holding my son hostage and I thought for one minute his life was in danger I would not hesitate to take the guy out if I had the chance. If it means taking out the criminal to save the innocent I'm all for it. And remember President Obama Gave the order.

Ok MsTerrry I know what you're thinking. That's condemning them without a trial. Not really. They condemned themselves especially when they decided to continue the crime on national TV for the whole world to see. I'd say that's enough witnesses to get a sure conviction. In other words an open and shut case. When they did get shot one of the pirates who was very aggitated because we refused to give them what they wanted pointed a pistol at captain Phillips as if he was going to shoot him, and that's when they took them out. Hey if a criminal is going to live by the gun he'll die by the gun. Jesus said it a different way. He said those that live by the sword will die by the sord. And that's all I have to say about that.

God Bless

[dw41552]

I have to confess my attraction to Butch. Butch is so butch. I know he lives in Oregon so I will take a road trip to see him in the flesh.

Edward

You want my address?

[MsTerry]

MsTerry
Jesus said it a different way. He said those that live by the sword will die by the sord. And that's all I have to say about that.


Ghandi said it in a Better way.
An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind.
Butch, I've noticed you have a vengeful side. Is that the Devil you are fighting?

[pjpete]

There are Angels among us. :wow:

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Thank you!

[dw41552]

Ghandi said it in a Better way.
An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind.
Butch, I've noticed you have a vengeful side. Is that the Devil you are fighting?

I try not to be, although I would probably have a tough time controlling myself if I ever came across an adult hurting a child. I just hate seeing good innocent people being victimized, especially children. Like I've said I was abused by my father and foster parents, Plus I have 6 beautiful adopted grandchildren who have all been abused in one way or another. One of them was raped at 6 years old. Who could do such a thing? It brings tears to my eyes when I think about it, and she's such a sweet heart, all of them are. Yes I admit it's hard not be vengful especially when things like that happen so close to home. Like I said I've had a tough life, so that's a hard one to control, but I'm working on it. I'm a Christian, not perfect, although I strive for perfection. The two hardest things in my life are being a Christian, and being a dad, but the rewards for both are worth every bit of effort. Let's put it this way MsTerry, I'm a work in progress. A diamond in the rough if you will. Big Smile

P.S. An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind. I like that one! That tells me Gandhi understood man's evil nature.

God bless.

[Lorrie]

Everyone is entitled to a lawyer.

What does this mean?
Does it mean you are a lawyer?
Does it mean you need a lawyer?
Where did lawyer come in?

Are you really 97, or are you now like 98 or something?

[theindependenteye]

>>How are you doing, sweetie? (Wink).
>>Kisses,
>>Edward[/quote]

I really wish you would stop this, Edward. I've got a very high "offensiveness" tolerance, but for me this tack is too much like playground ragging, not to mention feeling to me like a weird sort of reverse gay-bashing.. I'm sure you have a rationalization for it, but you are not going to rid the World Wide Web of absurdity, especially by echoing it.

I disagree with just about all of DW's opinions. Anyone who predicts we're all going to hell unless we subscribe to what to me is a kind of game-show version of Christianity is going to take a lot of heat in this forum. But I believe him when he says that his belief has been a blessing to his life and that he wants to witness this belief to others who may benefit from it. I think he's doing it the wrong way, but personally I'm more upset by people of my own spiritual or political stripe who choose tactics guaranteed to brand all likeminded people as idiotic or worse.

That's my own feeling. Nothing personal.

Peace & joy—
Conrad

[Valley Oak]

Duly noted.

Thanks for speaking up,

Edward



>>How are you doing, sweetie? (Wink).
>>Kisses,
>>Edward

I really wish you would stop this, Edward. I've got a very high "offensiveness" tolerance, but for me this tack is too much like playground ragging, not to mention feeling to me like a weird sort of reverse gay-bashing.. I'm sure you have a rationalization for it, but you are not going to rid the World Wide Web of absurdity, especially by echoing it.

I disagree with just about all of DW's opinions. Anyone who predicts we're all going to hell unless we subscribe to what to me is a kind of game-show version of Christianity is going to take a lot of heat in this forum. But I believe him when he says that his belief has been a blessing to his life and that he wants to witness this belief to others who may benefit from it. I think he's doing it the wrong way, but personally I'm more upset by people of my own spiritual or political stripe who choose tactics guaranteed to brand all likeminded people as idiotic or worse.

That's my own feeling. Nothing personal.

Peace & joy—
Conrad[/quote]

[MsTerry]

Lorrie, you call me The Devil's ADVOCATE :wink:
Advocate = Lawyer
:thumbsup:

What does this mean?
Does it mean you are a lawyer?
Does it mean you need a lawyer?
Where did lawyer come in?

[MsTerry]

Duly noted.
Thanks for speaking up,

Edward

Edward,
He's willing to meet you, he offered you his address.
He's never said anything bad about gay people, unless I missed something.
Why don't you stop teasing and drive up to Oregon.

[MsTerry]

P.S. An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind. I like that one! That tells me Gandhi understood man's evil nature.


Gandhi understood ignorance.
Jesus's saying about picking up a sword, also goes for those snipers who killed in cold blood.

[dw41552]

Gandhi understood ignorance.
Jesus's saying about picking up a sword, also goes for those snipers who killed in cold blood.

I look at it this way. There are those that take up the gun to break the law and there are those that take up the gun to uphold the law. I believe Jesus was talking about the first group.

God is good!!!!

[Lorrie]

Lorrie, you call me The Devil's ADVOCATE :wink:
Advocate = Lawyer
:thumbsup:
So, you are "DEVIL'S LAWYER-ING"?

[Lorrie]

Lorrie, you call me The Devil's ADVOCATE :wink:
Advocate = Lawyer
:thumbsup:
And....I didn't say you ARE the Devil's Advocate (Lawyer) I said you were doing Devil's Advocating...

[Neshamah]

Edward,

You have crossed the line. Instead of engaging in dialogue or simply ignoring statements you don't like, you have resorted to the deepest personal attack you could find. I understandably get enough questions about my gender in person without having those questions follow me online.

Since you bring it up, yes, I ran for local office despite working full time because if I had not, the race would have gone uncontested. Voter apathy in Delaware is proverbial, Democratic primaries in Delaware are closed, and Terry Schooley is among the best Democrats in the General Assembly, so I was not going to get anywhere running as a Democrat. In order to bring attention to the race and focus attention on the lack of government transparency, I ran in the general election as a fusion candidate. Besides the Republican party (who in Delaware was desperate for anyone) and the Libertarian party (who only narrowly endorsed me) I also sought but did not get the endorsement of the Working Families Party. (I was not ready to oppose secret balloting for organized labor.) Delaware is one of the only states to allow fusion tickets, and it provides a much needed opportunity to let people vote for a third party without feeling as though they are throwing their vote away.

I would prefer not to make all my views or personal details a topic of debate on WaccoBB, but since you seem determined to do it anyway, anyone who trusts the internet can google "Jesse Priester" or click on Jesse Priester, IV on Reasons & Objectives (https://www.vote-de.org/PoliticianIssue.aspx?State=DE&Id=DEPriesterJesseIV&Issue=ALLPersonal) for a snapshot of my androgynous alter-ego.

Since you bring it up, as far as the law is concerned, I am firmly pro-choice. In fact, on the rights of those under 16, I am to the left of Terry Schooley (who was a former head of Planned Parenthood in Delaware.) That does not mean I don't appreciate what abortion is or what it does, and I am not going to call someone a fascist or a sexist simply because they disagree with me. If you read my position objectively, you would know that. I know you are too dogmatic to appreciate nuance, but before you try to state my views for me again, try to understand them.

Since you bring it up, yes, I am religious. I believe that humans have truly free will. I have seen beauty that language cannot describe. (You probably have too.) I am a strong supporter of marriage and am strongly opposed to government attempts to deny it to anyone, regardless of sexual orientation. As for who I am going to marry, that is not your business.

If history and your other interactions in this forum are any guide, I am sure you will offer a sincerely felt apology but that your behavior will not change. If you cannot take people at their word and respect them for who they are, then maybe online forums aren't good for you. Maybe you need to take another break.

~ Neshamah (Jessica)





Neshamah's real identity:

... is another reactionary, religious fanatic phony like so many conservatives and extremists in this country.

Edward

[MsTerry]

Do you want me to explain the joke?


So, you are "DEVIL'S LAWYER-ING"?

[Valley Oak]

Thank you for your well stated response.

Although I have some quibbles with your post, I'll discuss them later, if you care to.

Edward



Edward,

You have crossed the line. Instead of engaging in dialogue or simply ignoring statements you don't like, you have resorted to the deepest personal attack you could find. I understandably get enough questions about my gender in person without having those questions follow me online.

Since you bring it up, yes, I ran for local office despite working full time because if I had not, the race would have gone uncontested. Voter apathy in Delaware is proverbial, Democratic primaries in Delaware are closed, and Terry Schooley is among the best Democrats in the General Assembly, so I was not going to get anywhere running as a Democrat. In order to bring attention to the race and focus attention on the lack of government transparency, I ran in the general election as a fusion candidate. Besides the Republican party (who in Delaware was desperate for anyone) and the Libertarian party (who only narrowly endorsed me) I also sought but did not get the endorsement of the Working Families Party. (I was not ready to oppose secret balloting for organized labor.) Delaware is one of the only states to allow fusion tickets, and it provides a much needed opportunity to let people vote for a third party without feeling as though they are throwing their vote away.

I would prefer not to make all my views or personal details a topic of debate on WaccoBB, but since you seem determined to do it anyway, anyone who trusts the internet can google "Jesse Priester" or click on Jesse Priester, IV on Reasons & Objectives (https://www.vote-de.org/PoliticianIssue.aspx?State=DE&Id=DEPriesterJesseIV&Issue=ALLPersonal) for a snapshot of my androgynous alter-ego.

Since you bring it up, as far as the law is concerned, I am firmly pro-choice. In fact, on the rights of those under 16, I am to the left of Terry Schooley (who was a former head of Planned Parenthood in Delaware.) That does not mean I don't appreciate what abortion is or what it does, and I am not going to call someone a fascist or a sexist simply because they disagree with me. If you read my position objectively, you would know that. I know you are too dogmatic to appreciate nuance, but before you try to state my views for me again, try to understand them.

Since you bring it up, yes, I am religious. I believe that humans have truly free will. I have seen beauty that language cannot describe. (You probably have too.) I am a strong supporter of marriage and am strongly opposed to government attempts to deny it to anyone, regardless of sexual orientation. As for who I am going to marry, that is not your business.

If history and your other interactions in this forum are any guide, I am sure you will offer a sincerely felt apology but that your behavior will not change. If you cannot take people at their word and respect them for who they are, then maybe online forums aren't good for you. Maybe you need to take another break.

~ Neshamah (Jessica)

[Lorrie]

Do you want me to explain the joke?

OMGhs! MsTerry! Do you really have to?:hmmm: