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pjpete
03-07-2009, 08:45 AM
Is there any Bi Males on this WaccoBB?
MsTerry
03-07-2009, 09:27 AM
Valley Oak comes highly recommended
Is there any Bi Males on this WaccoBB?
Braggi
03-07-2009, 09:35 AM
Is there any Bi Males on this WaccoBB?
Precious few that admit to it. I think male bisexuality is one of the last frontiers of the sexual freedom movement.
Men's sexuality changes based on environment. This is discussed very little in public.
-Jeff
alanora
03-07-2009, 09:46 AM
Does "bi" mean there is no preferred gender with which to partner sexually?
Precious few that admit to it. I think male bisexuality is one of the last frontiers of the sexual freedom movement.
Men's sexuality changes based on environment. This is discussed very little in public.
-Jeff
Braggi
03-07-2009, 10:03 AM
Does "bi" mean there is no preferred gender with which to partner sexually?
Actually no. It means either or both sexes (assuming 2 sexes) are preferred to partner with sexually.
Somehow your statement makes it sound like the preference is not to have sex.
-Jeff
Zeno Swijtink
03-07-2009, 10:24 AM
Does "bi" mean there is no preferred gender with which to partner sexually?
Alfred Kinsey developed a scale 0-6 to rank people's inclination to pure heterosexuality (0) and homosexuality (6). He introduced an additional category, X, to indicate asexuality. From the histories he took about 35% reported at least one same-sex sexual encounter. 11.6% of white males aged 20-35 were given a rating of 3 for this period of their lives (Kinsey, et al. 1948. Sexual Behavior in the Human Male, Table 147, p. 651).
Some years ago my kids made me do a gay test (https://www.gay-test.com/) I can recommend that to everybody. I think I scored about 40%, they also scored toward the middle, although not as high as I did. It was good fun and let to some good conversation.
I think Braggi is right that men's sexuality changes based on environment. I have not done much with that 40%, although it may have colored my relations with women.
DevaKai
03-07-2009, 10:49 AM
You know I've had a similar conversation with my mom and both of us feel that all people all bisexual to some degree. What draws me to someone is the look in their eyes and the energy they give off. If this person happens to be a woman, to me this is fine. Being in love is more important than who you love, meaning 2 men, 2 women, a man and a woman or a group.:heart:
Actually no. It means either or both sexes (assuming 2 sexes) are preferred to partner with sexually.
Somehow your statement makes it sound like the preference is not to have sex.
-Jeff
Braggi
03-07-2009, 10:54 AM
... Some years ago my kids made me do a gay test (https://www.gay-test.com/) I can recommend that to everybody. ...
Well, that's pretty cute, but I'm so out of it with pop culture, I couldn't even answer half the questions.
Silliness,
-Jeff
MsTerry
03-07-2009, 11:56 AM
Does "bi" mean there is no preferred gender with which to partner sexually?
Actually no. It means either or both sexes (assuming 2 sexes) are preferred to partner with sexually.
-Jeff
I think both statements are the same
Somehow your statement makes it sound like the preference is not to have sex.
No, it sounded more like there is no preference, and they 'll take whatever is available.
alanora
03-07-2009, 05:39 PM
I am simply wondering whether being "bi" implies that one gender is as good as the other, that one is not preferred over the other for sex. I find that state hard to imagine, could be my limiting beliefs or something, so I asked.
Actually no. It means either or both sexes (assuming 2 sexes) are preferred to partner with sexually.
Somehow your statement makes it sound like the preference is not to have sex.
-Jeff
MsTerry
03-07-2009, 07:38 PM
Well, that's pretty cute, but I'm so out of it with pop culture, I couldn't even answer half the questions.
Silliness,
-Jeff
If you don't answer any questions you are considered 2% gay
If you only answer some questions but as a homophobe you are considered 6% gay
I'm surprised that Zeno lends credibility to this "test"
Braggi
03-07-2009, 08:25 PM
I am simply wondering whether being "bi" implies that one gender is as good as the other, that one is not preferred over the other for sex. I find that state hard to imagine, could be my limiting beliefs or something, so I asked.
There is a spectrum of sexuality as Zeno pointed out. My "lay" educated guess is that given a spectrum of conditions and circumstances, most people could wind up anywhere on the scale. I think someone who is equally attracted (and how is that measured?) to both sexes is rare. I think we all have our preference which could shift based on our living arrangement, our culture, our level of satisfaction with life generally and ten billion other factors.
I think the biggest homophobe would find men positively warm and cuddly given a life sentence in prison without hope of parole. Put two very straight men on a desert island and within a week they might be very familiar with one another. Within a month, who knows?
Yes, our cultural bias is to "make" a person straight or gay. Thirty years ago it was straight or mentally ill. What will it be 30 years from now? I think bisexuality is "out of the closet" in some circles, but those circles are small. They will grow just as polyamory is growing.
Once bisexuality is accepted by a large portion of our society I think there will be a whole lot more bi people. Then I think we'll be revisiting those pesky marriage laws again.
-Jeff
tommy
03-08-2009, 09:52 AM
I took the gay test & got 28%, with the response that I'm not gay, but I could be straighter. I used to think I was gay, then moved to San Francisco in the 90s for 5 years, but aside from the sex clubs like Blow Buddies, I didn't find guys interested in intimacy. Sex, yes; intimacy, no. I decided to move to the country to find some real men, but there's only lesbians up here raising goats & turnips. What am I to do?
MsTerry
03-08-2009, 10:18 AM
I think the biggest homophobe would find men positively warm and cuddly given a life sentence in prison without hope of parole. Put two very straight men on a desert island and within a week they might be very familiar with one another. Within a month, who knows?.
-Jeff
Oh, I see, homosexuality is more a consequence of circumstances than it is an innate feeling.
pjpete
03-08-2009, 10:30 AM
Guess There Are No Bi Males On WaccoBB...Just A Bunch Of Nonsensical Answers.
pjpete
03-08-2009, 10:32 AM
What is Valley Oak?
Valley Oak comes highly recommended
pjpete
03-08-2009, 10:33 AM
Purchase A Goat, But Forget The Turnips.....:wink:
I took the gay test & got 28%, with the response that I'm not gay, but I could be straighter. I used to think I was gay, then moved to San Francisco in the 90s for 5 years, but aside from the sex clubs like Blow Buddies, I didn't find guys interested in intimacy. Sex, yes; intimacy, no. I decided to move to the country to find some real men, but there's only lesbians up here raising goats & turnips. What am I to do?
NorseViking869
03-08-2009, 10:54 AM
For such a conscious community, i see a lot of side stepping the issue. I maybe a straight man, but I have had a couple experiences with men. I do not consider my self bi as I am only attracted to women, and only driven to relationships with women. I will admit that the sex I had with a man was hot, It just was not me. I am just always open about trying new things.
notsomuch
03-08-2009, 10:59 AM
I believe that is the Screen Name of a member here, rather than a thing...
What is Valley Oak?
Braggi
03-08-2009, 12:04 PM
Guess There Are No Bi Males On WaccoBB...Just A Bunch Of Nonsensical Answers.
Perhaps there are more than you realize, but as I mentioned in my first post, few admit it.
What are you hoping for? A date? You might have better luck on a dating site or by asking directly here. This is a place for conversation which is what you have sparked. I don't think this discussion is nonsensical, but perhaps my mind (which is a device that seeks meaning even if there is none) is playing tricks on me again.
Maybe you should express what it is you want.
-Jeff
MsTerry
03-08-2009, 02:29 PM
Look him up in the members-list ( no pun intended)
What is Valley Oak?
MsTerry
03-08-2009, 02:33 PM
I think the biggest homophobe would find men positively warm and cuddly given a life sentence in prison without hope of parole. Put two very straight men on a desert island and within a week they might be very familiar with one another. Within a month, who knows?
-Jeff
OK, how about two man and a goat.
Or maybe one guy and a goat.
We could even try two goats and a woman.
Are they all going to have a gay time?
pjpete
03-09-2009, 08:31 AM
Your right, I remember seeing that somewhere....:hmmm:
I believe that is the Screen Name of a member here, rather than a thing...
pjpete
03-09-2009, 08:35 AM
Well, it depends on the circumstances. On the island, it depends on how many oysters they both eat over a period of a few days.....:thumbsup:
Oh, I see, homosexuality is more a consequence of circumstances than it is an innate feeling.
Zeno Swijtink
03-13-2009, 12:57 PM
Alfred Kinsey developed a scale 0-6 to rank people's inclination to pure heterosexuality (0) and homosexuality (6). He introduced an additional category, X, to indicate asexuality. From the histories he took about 35% reported at least one same-sex sexual encounter. 11.6% of white males aged 20-35 were given a rating of 3 for this period of their lives (Kinsey, et al. 1948. Sexual Behavior in the Human Male, Table 147, p. 651).
Some years ago my kids made me do a gay test (https://www.gay-test.com/) I can recommend that to everybody. I think I scored about 40%, they also scored toward the middle, although not as high as I did. It was good fun and let to some good conversation.
I think Braggi is right that men's sexuality changes based on environment. I have not done much with that 40%, although it may have colored my relations with women.
This title also seems relevant:
Evolution's rainbow : diversity, gender, and sexuality in nature and people / Joan Roughgarden.
Information from electronic data provided by the publisher.
In this innovative celebration of diversity and affirmation of individuality in animals and humans, Joan Roughgarden challenges accepted wisdom about gender identity and sexual orientation. A distinguished evolutionary biologist, Roughgarden takes on the medical establishment, the Bible, social science--and even Darwin himself. She leads the reader through a fascinating discussion of diversity in gender and sexuality among fish, reptiles, amphibians, birds, and mammals, including primates. Evolution's Rainbow explains how this diversity develops from the action of genes and hormones and how people come to differ from each other in all aspects of body and behavior. Roughgarden reconstructs primary science in light of feminist, gay, and transgender criticism and redefines our understanding of sex, gender, and sexuality. Witty, playful, and daring, this book will revolutionize our understanding of sexuality.
Roughgarden argues that principal elements of Darwinian sexual selection theory are false and suggests a new theory that emphasizes social inclusion and control of access to resources and mating opportunity. She disputes a range of scientific and medical concepts, including Wilson's genetic determinism of behavior, evolutionary psychology, the existence of a gay gene, the role of parenting in determining gender identity, and Dawkins's "selfish gene" as the driver of natural selection. She dares social science to respect the agency and rationality of diverse people shows that many cultures across the world and throughout history accommodate people we label today as lesbian, gay, and transgendered and calls on the Christian religion to acknowledge the Bible's many passages endorsing diversity in gender and sexuality. Evolution's Rainbow concludes with bold recommendations for improving education in biology, psychology, and medicine for democratizing genetic engineering and medical practice and for building a public monument to affirm diversity as one of our nation's defining principles.
Alias_Temple
03-13-2009, 07:46 PM
I am a "Bi Male" on this site....And I have to say this..although I do concider myself to be Bisexual (because I AM) I do much more prefer to date women and I do not actively date men...I much more preffer the company of a woman and also to live with women.As far as SEX goes ....I at times have been known to have dates that have included other Bi Males(and usually a female there as well)....BUT...I've found that admitting my "OPEN MIND" ...by placing "Bi-Sexual" on my dating site profiles...has proven to be a huge dissapoinment to me because of the NEGATIVE responces from women I've gotten.....what year is this? 2009?...It does not seem that way to me by the reaction of some people torwards my being an open minded person....SOME of the women reacting NEGATIVELY to me themselves even have stated on there profiles that they are Bi Sexual...this bothers me much.LIKE WHAT ARE THEY THINKING? I do not know....I do VERY much agree with DevaKai and what she had written here about the probability of most people being bisexual to some degree AND that it is SOOO important to LOVE! :heart:
You know I've had a similar conversation with my mom and both of us feel that all people all bisexual to some degree. What draws me to someone is the look in their eyes and the energy they give off. If this person happens to be a woman, to me this is fine. Being in love is more important than who you love, meaning 2 men, 2 women, a man and a woman or a group.:heart:
Braggi
03-13-2009, 09:02 PM
...I've found that admitting my "OPEN MIND" ...by placing "Bi-Sexual" on my dating site profiles...has proven to be a huge dissapoinment to me because of the NEGATIVE responces from women I've gotten ...
Perhaps you should try polyamory dating sites. I've found a lot more tolerance for bi men in poly circles.
-Jeff
Alias_Temple
03-13-2009, 09:14 PM
I have tried most every site on the net......just the fact of stating that I'm "Bi" EVEN if I write that my preferance is women over men....I've gotten flac back from people AND if I write that "I'M OPEN MINDED TO A POLY LIVING SITUATION" not that that is my preferance BUT THAT I'm "OPEN MINDED TO SUGGESTIONS" I've gotten all kinds of flac about that too!....it's absolutly rediculous that I cannot in somones opinion be open minded to any help or suggestions.
Braggi
03-13-2009, 09:24 PM
... I've gotten all kinds of flac about that too!....it's absolutly rediculous that I cannot in somones opinion be open minded to any help or suggestions.[/B][/COLOR][/FONT]
Man, have you tried the North Bay Poly Chat list? You could use some validation. I'lll try: hey dude, you're all right. Bisexuality doubles your chances. Can you imagine how hard it would be to raise an army if it was OK for guys to be bisexual? (No puns now.) That's why it's forbidden.
The religions that forbid men from becoming lovers are warlike religions.
Love is the answer.
-Jeff
Alias_Temple
03-13-2009, 11:18 PM
Thank you for the suggestion, I might try it...But my point was that I am not seeking a Bi or a poly relationship at the moment but that I'm open to any suggestions....ONLY that I'm open minded.NOT gay or even seeking a Bi or poly relationship...
Man, have you tried the North Bay Poly Chat list? You could use some validation. I'lll try: hey dude, you're all right. Bisexuality doubles your chances. Can you imagine how hard it would be to raise an army if it was OK for guys to be bisexual? (No puns now.) That's why it's forbidden.
The religions that forbid men from becoming lovers are warlike religions.
Love is the answer.
-Jeff
MsTerry
03-14-2009, 08:12 AM
Thank you for the suggestion, I might try it...But my point was that I am not seeking a Bi or a poly relationship at the moment but that I'm open to any suggestions....ONLY that I'm open minded.NOT gay or even seeking a Bi or poly relationship...
It sounds like you did get some suggestions, you just didn't like the answers.
Are you looking for some kind of a online fantasy situation?
pjpete
03-14-2009, 11:11 AM
I am sure that the negativity is rampant... :idea:
I am a "Bi Male" on this site....And I have to say this..although I do concider myself to be Bisexual (because I AM) I do much more prefer to date women and I do not actively date men...I much more preffer the company of a woman and also to live with women.As far as SEX goes ....I at times have been known to have dates that have included other Bi Males(and usually a female there as well)....BUT...I've found that admitting my "OPEN MIND" ...by placing "Bi-Sexual" on my dating site profiles...has proven to be a huge dissapoinment to me because of the NEGATIVE responces from women I've gotten.....what year is this? 2009?...It does not seem that way to me by the reaction of some people torwards my being an open minded person....SOME of the women reacting NEGATIVELY to me themselves even have stated on there profiles that they are Bi Sexual...this bothers me much.LIKE WHAT ARE THEY THINKING? I do not know....I do VERY much agree with DevaKai and what she had written here about the probability of most people being bisexual to some degree AND that it is SOOO important to LOVE! :heart:
pjpete
03-14-2009, 11:13 AM
What is the address for this North Bay Poly Site?
Man, have you tried the North Bay Poly Chat list? You could use some validation. I'lll try: hey dude, you're all right. Bisexuality doubles your chances. Can you imagine how hard it would be to raise an army if it was OK for guys to be bisexual? (No puns now.) That's why it's forbidden.
The religions that forbid men from becoming lovers are warlike religions.
Love is the answer.
-Jeff
pjpete
03-14-2009, 11:14 AM
It's great that you can talk about this though, it's enlightening for me.....:thumbsup:
Thank you for the suggestion, I might try it...But my point was that I am not seeking a Bi or a poly relationship at the moment but that I'm open to any suggestions....ONLY that I'm open minded.NOT gay or even seeking a Bi or poly relationship...
Alias_Temple
03-14-2009, 05:01 PM
NO........ONLINE Fantasy is NOT what I want at all.
It sounds like you did get some suggestions, you just didn't like the answers.
Are you looking for some kind of a online fantasy situation?
pjpete
04-08-2009, 07:27 AM
Ms. Terry is at it again, her prose are like that of a Dolly Parton song, "Here We Go Again".
I think both statements are the same
No, it sounded more like there is no preference, and they 'll take whatever is available.
pjpete
04-08-2009, 07:30 AM
Ms. Terry is at it yet again.
It sounds like you did get some suggestions, you just didn't like the answers.
Are you looking for some kind of a online fantasy situation?
MsTerry
04-08-2009, 09:31 AM
Pete, are you trying to kick up a stink?
Did they serve you a do-not-think- for-yourself-cookie too?
Ms. Terry is at it yet again.