Hamas confiscates food & blankets....

[artfulme]

...from UN storehouse, that was intended to go to Palestinian civilians.

Seized were 3500 blankets and 400 food parcels.

Another "clue" showing just how much they LOVE their fellow "countrymen & women" in their desire to punish their own people by using them as targets and shields and then displaying their bodies for world sympathy.

And these are the "people" that the Uber-Lefties, Neo-Nazis favor at the price for destroying the Israelis and Jews (women and children especially included) everywhere.

You must be SOOOO proud. Perhaps now is the time to join the Halocaust deniers, along with the Pope and his fascist enablers, as well as Hamas...for the "benefit" of the Palestinian people...who are the object of your pity.

[wildflower]

Aren't you making assumptions and then reacting to your own assumptions just to start an argument?
I forgot to mention the name-calling. I am surprised that angry name-calling is even allowed on here!
You must enjoy this war of words.....
wf :2cents:


...from UN storehouse, that was intended to go to Palestinian civilians.

Seized were 3500 blankets and 400 food parcels.

Another "clue" showing just how much they LOVE their fellow "countrymen & women" in their desire to punish their own people by using them as targets and shields and then displaying their bodies for world sympathy.

And these are the "people" that the Uber-Lefties, Neo-Nazis favor at the price for destroying the Israelis and Jews (women and children especially included) everywhere.

You must be SOOOO proud. Perhaps now is the time to join the Halocaust deniers, along with the Pope and his fascist enablers, as well as Hamas...for the "benefit" of the Palestinian people...who are the object of your pity.

[Photoguy]

I agree with WF. I myself have been guilty of name calling in anger in reaction to a post here and there that really pi##ed me off. I usually end up changing it and kind of apologizing. It has actually been a positive growth process for me. It seems that artfulme is full of hate that needs a lot of venting. In an open forum some venting and bad behavior, on occasion, needs to be forgiven as natural friction. I think when a member only seems to put forth harsh and anger based derogatory posts there should be questions asked, or Barry, perhaps you might have something to say?
:givemeabeer:

[MsTerry]

or Barry, perhaps you might have something to say?


Yeah, being the butt of direct censorship many times, I'd LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE to hear what Barry has to say about this one.
And what is he going to do?

[MsTerry]

Yeah, I'd LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE to hear what Barry has to say about this one.
And what is he going to do?

Barry is not doing anything.
That can only mean that he supports and underwrites the opinion expressed.
Hummmmmmmmmmm, very interesting.........................................

[artfulme]

Sure...my "anger" is 2000 years a-borning.

When I see and hear the 2000-year-old antisemitism : whenever a difficult situation presents itself, blame and kill-the-Jews ----> repeated today by people who support the Nazi agenda in new clothes by Hamas/Palestinians, I DO REACT!!

Blame it on my knowledge and study of history and personal experiences.

But, I notice that nobody has RESPONDED TO THE information/facts set forth first reported by the BBC...and now all over the US newspapers.

Only the tone of my "unjustified" (???) information & facts is criticized. Kinda like ad hominum attacks...without ever dealing with the item(s) reported!

Why?? Because their Anti-Israel positions (reflecting those of Hamas) NEVER allow them to get past their rhetoric and deal with facts.

Further, that greatly criticized bombing of the Gaza UN building has been revealed by the UN and other reporters to have been then a missile/cannon launching site. Another Hamas-supprters lie...but very handy to use in their rhetoric-without-truth.

[Photoguy]

Wow, you are 2000 years old, no wonder your cranky. It is entirely possible that Hamas is trying to maintain its control by taking the supplies. They are also the elected government there. I don't support anyone killing anyone. In your apparent senility you mistake people who are critical of Israel with murderers. Calm down, get a grip and try making some actual non-inflammatory, fact based arguments. Stop yelling so loud and maybe someone will listen.

[wildflower]

This war of words on a community bulletin board will probably get you nowhere.
I don't think you'll find what you're looking for here.
Remember, if you believe everything that you think, then you are a prisoner of your own mind. All your suffering is in your own mind and the world that you create with it.
What is your purpose here? What do you want from us? What can we do for you?
I would really like to know.
Sure, arguing strengthens the ego, but that gets really old, doesn't it?
Best
wf


Sure...my "anger" is 2000 years a-borning.

When I see and hear the 2000-year-old antisemitism : whenever a difficult situation presents itself, blame and kill-the-Jews ----> repeated today by people who support the Nazi agenda in new clothes by Hamas/Palestinians, I DO REACT!!

Blame it on my knowledge and study of history and personal experiences.

But, I notice that nobody has RESPONDED TO THE information/facts set forth first reported by the BBC...and now all over the US newspapers.

Only the tone of my "unjustified" (???) information & facts is criticized. Kinda like ad hominum attacks...without ever dealing with the item(s) reported!

Why?? Because their Anti-Israel positions (reflecting those of Hamas) NEVER allow them to get past their rhetoric and deal with facts.

Further, that greatly criticized bombing of the Gaza UN building has been revealed by the UN and other reporters to have been then a missile/cannon launching site. Another Hamas-supprters lie...but very handy to use in their rhetoric-without-truth.

[Photoguy]

You rock Wildflower. Hey Artulme, what she says about ego makes a lot of sense. I have a problem with mine too, I found once I realized that I was letting my ego get involved, and my ego is a loudmouth, it was a lot easier to stay cool. Taking on 2000 years of pain is a killer, you have done nothing to deserve such pain. I hope you can let it go, your health really depends on this.:heart:


This war of words on a community bulletin board will probably get you nowhere.
I don't think you'll find what you're looking for here.
Remember, if you believe everything that you think, then you are a prisoner of your own mind. All your suffering is in your own mind and the world that you create with it.
What is your purpose here? What do you want from us? What can we do for you?
I would really like to know.
Sure, arguing strengthens the ego, but that gets really old, doesn't it?
Best
wf

[Hot Compost]

Wow, you are 2000 years old, no wonder your cranky. It is entirely possible that Hamas is trying to maintain its control by taking the supplies. They are also the elected government there. I don't support anyone killing anyone. In your apparent senility you mistake people who are critical of Israel with murderers. Calm down, get a grip and try making some actual non-inflammatory, fact based arguments. Stop yelling so loud and maybe someone will listen.

10 points.

the original post does not entirely make sense.

is it meant to clarify Israel policy, or to parody it ?

[artfulme]

"There are none so blind as those who will not see."

Sure, the Hamas confiscation of food and coverings meant for poor Palestinians is nothing but an Israeli plot!!

You CERTAINLY support this "relieving" such Palestinians of the burden of eating ok and being a bit warmer from the elements!

Hamas agenda: War and Death--using poor palestinians as human shields in front of these "Hamas freedom fighters," Hamas hiding behind and under their skirts, and when these shielding Palestinian people are maimed & killed in their "war," why that's ok and worthy of your support, eh?

THEN, they can parade these thus maimed and killed while you watch and praise them.

Maybe you can send them a few white sheets for them to hide behind. It was and is the uniform of the KKK. Seems fitting.

[Zeno Swijtink]

"There are none so blind as those who will not see."

Sure, the Hamas confiscation of food and coverings meant for poor Palestinians is nothing but an Israeli plot!!

You CERTAINLY support this "relieving" such Palestinians of the burden of eating ok and being a bit warmer from the elements!

Hamas agenda: War and Death--using poor palestinians as human shields in front of these "Hamas freedom fighters," Hamas hiding behind and under their skirts, and when these shielding Palestinian people are maimed & killed in their "war," why that's ok and worthy of your support, eh?

THEN, they can parade these thus maimed and killed while you watch and praise them.

Maybe you can send them a few white sheets for them to hide behind. It was and is the uniform of the KKK. Seems fitting.

As I wrote you earlier: "Critiquing Israeli policy vs the Palestinians in Gaza is not the same as supporting Hamas (...)

For instance, last year you spoke at the City Council of Rohnert Park, in support for a motion calling for the impeachment of President Bush and Vice President Cheney. I would go astray if I concluded from that that you were a supporter of Osama bin Laden."

[PeriodThree]

"There are none so blind as those who will not see."

Sure, the Hamas confiscation of food and coverings meant for poor Palestinians is nothing but an Israeli plot!!



I don't see anyone arguing that the confiscation by Hamas is an Israeli plot.

Here is one BBC article on the confiscation:
BBC NEWS | Middle East | Hamas police 'seize aid for Gaza' (https://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7869704.stm)



You CERTAINLY support this "relieving" such Palestinians of the burden of eating ok and being a bit warmer from the elements!


I don't see any support in this thread for 'relieving' Palestinians of the burden of eating ok. You are attacking people, and calling them NAZI's and Anti Semites, for words they have not used.

(Yes, there _are_ Anti Semites in the world, and there is a strain of virulent anti-semitism in the Left/Progressive movement, but you are making the case that because there are progressives who are anti-semitic that all progressives are anti-semitic. I don't think that is true.)

[artfulme]

AGAIN!!

Today the UN Humanitarian aid was suspended by them because, again, Hamas stole such aids for its own use, making sure that the palestrinian people don't get it.

When you SUPPORT such a group together with their Palestinian victims (for 60 years), you have the obligation, as a supposedly thinking person, to understand their agenda you are supporting.

The HAMAS/PALESTRINIAN CLEAR and UNEXPURGATED AGENDA IS TO KILL ALL JEWS STARTING WITH ISRAEL!!

Now...when you lend support to HAMAS/PALESTINIANS who have that OPEN, STATED, UNAMBIGUOUS agenda, are you not accepting and supporting and adopting it?? Thus, an antisemitism-for -killing the Jews has become your own.

It's really not very complicated--->support Hamas/Palestinian's NEO-NAZI agenda and you become one yoursel...on this issue!

All this, but you spend your time criticizing Israel which would rather survive.

And, why don't I hear/see ANY SEVERE criticism of what Hamas is doing to its own people let alone seeking to kill every Jew in sight.

If you had any REAL concern for the Palestinian people (instead of an anti-Israeli agenda), you'd advocate and do what you can to stop their many wars on Israel thereby stopping the inevitable military response and the consequent destruction of their own economy, and well-being infrastructure, and well-being of its population (using the billion$$ of 'humanitarian aid' for betterment of their people instead for rockets, grenades, cannons, shells, bombs, etc.)...and leave Israel alone.

Your posts:Are they "criticism" of Israel? Or is it your permission for their stated killers to carry out their understood plans...???!!!

The answer is clear to me!

That is precisely why I term these people neo-nazis. True...whether or not they are able to see themselves in the mirrior.

[Photoguy]

So you really have no intention of a DIALOGUE here, you just want to rant at people. Please rant a bit about your opinions on the settlement movement and or the ship of aid from Lebanon that the Israelis stopped and confiscated yesterday.

[PeriodThree]

AGAIN!!


The HAMAS/PALESTRINIAN CLEAR and UNEXPURGATED AGENDA IS TO KILL ALL JEWS STARTING WITH ISRAEL!!


The Israeli's are doing a lot better job of killing Palestinians than the Palestinians are doing at killing Israelis.

Not to mention the 'success' the Israelis have at stealing Palestinian water, cutting down Palestinian olive trees, imprisoning Gazans, etc.

When a sane Israeli is elected to government a freaking Israeli killed him.

When you occupy a territory, as the Israelis have done, than under all standards of international law and common decency you have moral and legal obligations towards the occupied people.

You keep calling people 'Neo Nazi's - but it is strange. Israel has created literal refuge camps. They are not Nazi death camps, but what Israel is doing to the Palestinians is far closer to NAZI behavior than the Palestinian actions.

I do not support Hamas, but I very much do not support murdering children in their house - as the Israelis did to Dr Izeldeen Abuelaish.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Gaza doctor's loss grips Israelis (https://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7838465.stm)

But his response is beautiful:The father-of-eight added: "I have two options - the path of darkness or the path of light. The path of darkness is like choosing all the complications with diseases and depression, but the path of light is to focus on the future and my children."

[wildflower]

No matter what anyone does...
WE CAN CHOOSE PEACE in THIS MOMENT and any moment....
(of course there is really only ONE moment.)
So CHOOSE PEACE...
otherwise war continues on and on
perpetuated by the human mind
as it is here now in these words....
love
wildflower


AGAIN!!

Today the UN Humanitarian aid was suspended by them because, again, Hamas stole such aids for its own use, making sure that the palestrinian people don't get it.

When you SUPPORT such a group together with their Palestinian victims (for 60 years), you have the obligation, as a supposedly thinking person, to understand their agenda you are supporting.

The HAMAS/PALESTRINIAN CLEAR and UNEXPURGATED AGENDA IS TO KILL ALL JEWS STARTING WITH ISRAEL!!

Now...when you lend support to HAMAS/PALESTINIANS who have that OPEN, STATED, UNAMBIGUOUS agenda, are you not accepting and supporting and adopting it?? Thus, an antisemitism-for -killing the Jews has become your own.

It's really not very complicated--->support Hamas/Palestinian's NEO-NAZI agenda and you become one yoursel...on this issue!

All this, but you spend your time criticizing Israel which would rather survive.

And, why don't I hear/see ANY SEVERE criticism of what Hamas is doing to its own people let alone seeking to kill every Jew in sight.

If you had any REAL concern for the Palestinian people (instead of an anti-Israeli agenda), you'd advocate and do what you can to stop their many wars on Israel thereby stopping the inevitable military response and the consequent destruction of their own economy, and well-being infrastructure, and well-being of its population (using the billion$$ of 'humanitarian aid' for betterment of their people instead for rockets, grenades, cannons, shells, bombs, etc.)...and leave Israel alone.

Your posts:Are they "criticism" of Israel? Or is it your permission for their stated killers to carry out their understood plans...???!!!

The answer is clear to me!

That is precisely why I term these people neo-nazis. True...whether or not they are able to see themselves in the mirrior.

[Photoguy]

Hi All,
here's a video describing what I want for people, all people including angry ones.
:console:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTlrSYbCbHE
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[Valley Oak]

Thank you.

You said it far more simply and clearly than I was able to do.

Edward



Hi All,
here's a video describing what I want for people, all people including angry ones.
:console:YouTube - The Universal Declaration of Human Rights (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTlrSYbCbHE)
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