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elienos
12-15-2008, 06:14 AM
(disclaimer: yes I know yahoo is evil, I just wanted to point this out)
This morning Yahoo posted an article on Yahoo News and for about 3 minutes it said this:
Bush's Iraq-Afghan farewell tour marred by dissent (AP)
AP - President George W. Bush wrapped up a whirlwind trip to two war zones Monday that in many ways was a victory lap without a clear victory and left thousands protesting in Iraq streets. A signature event occurred when an Iraqi reporter hurled two shoes at Bush, declaring: "This is from the widows, the orphans and those who were killed in Iraq."
And then the article changed to this https://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081215/ap_on_re_as/bush
They changed what he said to "this is from the widows, the orphans and those who were killed," to "This is a farewell Kiss, you dog!" And then goes on to quote Bush as saying that he doesn't know what the guys problem is and that he must just want to be on Television." Sick.
He probably said both, but this just shows how the media is owned and they spin their stories to affect public opinion (and in this case to protect someone who needs very much to be tried for his crimes). Someone must have given Yahoo News a call as soon as the story was printed.
And worse, I just sent what I am writing here twice through yahoo and my mother and my other email have not received it. Make me wonder if the are censoring my emails as well
MsTerry
12-15-2008, 08:55 AM
How do you know it was censored?
Do you understand Arabic?
Is it possible that the first one was an interpretation and the second one a translation?
(disclaimer: yes I know yahoo is evil, I just wanted to point this out)
This morning Yahoo posted an article on Yahoo News and for about 3 minutes it said this:
Bush's Iraq-Afghan farewell tour marred by dissent (AP)
AP - President George W. Bush wrapped up a whirlwind trip to two war zones Monday that in many ways was a victory lap without a clear victory and left thousands protesting in Iraq streets. A signature event occurred when an Iraqi reporter hurled two shoes at Bush, declaring: "This is from the widows, the orphans and those who were killed in Iraq."
And then the article changed to this https://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081215/ap_on_re_as/bush
They changed what he said to "this is from the widows, the orphans and those who were killed," to "This is a farewell Kiss, you dog!" And then goes on to quote Bush as saying that he doesn't know what the guys problem is and that he must just want to be on Television." Sick.
He probably said both, but this just shows how the media is owned and they spin their stories to affect public opinion (and in this case to protect someone who needs very much to be tried for his crimes). Someone must have given Yahoo News a call as soon as the story was printed.
And worse, I just sent what I am writing here twice through yahoo and my mother and my other email have not received it. Make me wonder if the are censoring my emails as well
MsTerry
12-15-2008, 10:02 AM
According to the BBC, he said both
here is the video about a person in denial
https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7782774.stm
https://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/printer_friendly/news_logo.gif
Iraq rally for Bush shoe attacker
Thousands of Iraqis have demanded the release of a local TV reporter who threw his shoes at US President George W Bush at a Baghdad news conference.
Crowds gathered in Baghdad's Sadr City district, calling for "hero" Muntadar al-Zaidi to be freed from custody.
Officials at the Iraqi-owned TV station, al-Baghdadiya, called for the release of their journalist, saying he was exercising freedom of expression.
Iraqi officials have described the incident as shameful.
A statement released by the government said Mr Zaidi's actions, which also included him shouting insults at President Bush, "harmed the reputation of Iraqi journalists and Iraqi journalism in general".
Correspondents say the protesters are supporters of Shia cleric Moqtada Sadr - a leading critic of the US presence in Iraq. Smaller protests were reported in Basra and Najaf.
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The Iraqi government has demanded an on-air apology from his employer.
An Iraqi official was quoted by the Associated Press as saying that the journalist was being interrogated to determine whether anybody paid him to throw his shoes at President Bush.
He was also being tested for alcohol and drugs, and his shoes were being held as evidence, said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity.
The Cairo-based al-Baghdadiya TV channel said Mr Zaidi should be freed because he had been exercising freedom of expression - something which the Americans had promised to Iraqis on the ousting of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.
"Any measures against Muntadar will be considered the acts of a dictatorial regime," the firm said in a statement.
The programming director for al-Baghdadiya, Muzhir al-Khafaji, described the journalist as a "proud Arab and an open-minded man".
He said he was afraid for Mr Zaidi's safety, adding that the reporter had been arrested by US officials twice before.
"We fear that our correspondents in Iraq will be arrested. We have 200 correspondents there," he added.
'Proud Arab'
Mr Zaidi leapt from his chair at Sunday's news conference and hurled first one shoe and then the other at Mr Bush, who was joined at the podium by Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki.
The shoes missed as Mr Bush ducked, and Mr Zaidi was immediately wrestled to the ground by security guards and frogmarched from the room.
"This is a farewell kiss, you dog," he yelled in Arabic as he threw his shoes. "This is from the widows, the orphans and those who were killed in Iraq."
Arabic TV stations have been repeatedly showing footage of the incident, which was also front-page news in many papers.
Correspondents say the journalist's tirade was echoed by Arabs across the Middle East who are fed up with US policy in the region.
"He [George Bush] deserves to be hit with 100, not just one or two shoes. Who wants him to come here?" said a man in Baghdad.
But his view was not expressed by everyone.
"I think this incident is unnecessary, to be honest. That was a press conference, not a war. If someone wants to express his opinion he should do so in the proper manner, not this way," said another Baghdad resident.
Courts criticised
Also on Monday, Human Rights Watch accused Iraq's main criminal court of failing to meet basic international standards of justice.
The New York-based group said torture and abuse of prisoners before trial appeared common, and legal representation was often ineffectual.
Human Rights Watch said some of the court's failings showed disturbing similarities to those that existed during the Saddam Hussein era.
The group called on Iraq to take immediate steps to protect detainees from torture, and ensure they had access to proper defence and received a prompt hearing.
Story from BBC NEWS:
https://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/middle_east/7783608.stm
Published: 2008/12/15 14:32:54 GMT
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12-15-2008, 12:00 PM
I agree, Yahoo does censor posts on message boards & also search results.
If you post factual information that their advertisers don't like, there is a fair chance that the link will be excised from their search database, or from the message board.
Incidentally, Google does similar things with search results - modify them at the bequest of advertisers.
elienos
12-15-2008, 12:13 PM
I never said that he didn't call Bush a dog. What happened is that with the first shoe, the reporter said, "This is a gift from the Iraqis. This is the farewell kiss, you dog," and with the second he said, ""This is from the widows, the orphans and those who were killed in Iraq." The New York Times and LA Times wrote better articles on the debacle. Yahoo cut the full quote and only quotes him as saying "this is a farewell kiss you dog" and then goes on to say Bush doesn't understand what his problem is.
According to the BBC, he said both
here is the video about a person in denial
https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7782774.stm
https://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/printer_friendly/news_logo.gif
Iraq rally for Bush shoe attacker
Thousands of Iraqis have demanded the release of a local TV reporter who threw his shoes at US President George W Bush at a Baghdad news conference.
Crowds gathered in Baghdad's Sadr City district, calling for "hero" Muntadar al-Zaidi to be freed from custody.
Officials at the Iraqi-owned TV station, al-Baghdadiya, called for the release of their journalist, saying he was exercising freedom of expression.
Iraqi officials have described the incident as shameful.
A statement released by the government said Mr Zaidi's actions, which also included him shouting insults at President Bush, "harmed the reputation of Iraqi journalists and Iraqi journalism in general".
Correspondents say the protesters are supporters of Shia cleric Moqtada Sadr - a leading critic of the US presence in Iraq. Smaller protests were reported in Basra and Najaf.
<!--SvideoInStoryB--> <!--Semp--> <!--Swarning--> <!--Ewarning--> <!--Eemp--> <!--EvideoInStoryB-->
The Iraqi government has demanded an on-air apology from his employer.
An Iraqi official was quoted by the Associated Press as saying that the journalist was being interrogated to determine whether anybody paid him to throw his shoes at President Bush.
He was also being tested for alcohol and drugs, and his shoes were being held as evidence, said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity.
The Cairo-based al-Baghdadiya TV channel said Mr Zaidi should be freed because he had been exercising freedom of expression - something which the Americans had promised to Iraqis on the ousting of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.
"Any measures against Muntadar will be considered the acts of a dictatorial regime," the firm said in a statement.
The programming director for al-Baghdadiya, Muzhir al-Khafaji, described the journalist as a "proud Arab and an open-minded man".
He said he was afraid for Mr Zaidi's safety, adding that the reporter had been arrested by US officials twice before.
"We fear that our correspondents in Iraq will be arrested. We have 200 correspondents there," he added.
'Proud Arab'
Mr Zaidi leapt from his chair at Sunday's news conference and hurled first one shoe and then the other at Mr Bush, who was joined at the podium by Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki.
The shoes missed as Mr Bush ducked, and Mr Zaidi was immediately wrestled to the ground by security guards and frogmarched from the room.
"This is a farewell kiss, you dog," he yelled in Arabic as he threw his shoes. "This is from the widows, the orphans and those who were killed in Iraq."
Arabic TV stations have been repeatedly showing footage of the incident, which was also front-page news in many papers.
Correspondents say the journalist's tirade was echoed by Arabs across the Middle East who are fed up with US policy in the region.
"He [George Bush] deserves to be hit with 100, not just one or two shoes. Who wants him to come here?" said a man in Baghdad.
But his view was not expressed by everyone.
"I think this incident is unnecessary, to be honest. That was a press conference, not a war. If someone wants to express his opinion he should do so in the proper manner, not this way," said another Baghdad resident.
Courts criticised
Also on Monday, Human Rights Watch accused Iraq's main criminal court of failing to meet basic international standards of justice.
The New York-based group said torture and abuse of prisoners before trial appeared common, and legal representation was often ineffectual.
Human Rights Watch said some of the court's failings showed disturbing similarities to those that existed during the Saddam Hussein era.
The group called on Iraq to take immediate steps to protect detainees from torture, and ensure they had access to proper defence and received a prompt hearing.
Story from BBC NEWS:
https://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/middle_east/7783608.stm
Published: 2008/12/15 14:32:54 GMT
© BBC MMVIII
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elienos
12-15-2008, 12:15 PM
And my emails about the censorship still haven't reached their recipients, at least the ones I launched from their website.
RichT
12-15-2008, 12:21 PM
what a great precedent! I think we should all march on the White House and show our support of this man and throw our own shoes at shrub. Would he finally receive the message that he is a criminal and traitor? Probably not. I'd love to see someone connect a shot to the Great Divider's head!