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Toxic Reverend
11-18-2008, 09:31 AM
The reason that doctors can work in a hospital full of
sick people without getting ill themselves is that they
wash their hands, often. I usually use Doctor Browners
soap because it is a natural soap, with out all o f the
anti-bacterial chemicals or other toxic additives. The
other "trick" is to train yourself not to touch your face, as
the common cold and flu are usually "caught" in that manner.

In reference: simple Google search terms,

"transmission common cold touch face (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=transmission+common+cold+touch+face&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=)"
Translation;
Beware of the "Handshakes (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Handshakes+common+cold+flu+transmission&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=)"

.......
Top 10 Places Cold and Flu Germs Hide | Highlight HEALTH
Handshaking can be one of the main culprits in direct contact
cold and flu transmission. When a person sneezes, small
particles are expelled from the nose ...
www.highlighthealth.com/diseases-and-conditions/top-10-places-cold-and-flu-germs-hide/ (https://www.highlighthealth.com/diseases-and-conditions/top-10-places-cold-and-flu-germs-hide/)
- 58k
.......

Now about flu vaccines

Posted at YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az5aAwr4ugE
Do Flu Shots Work? Ask A Vaccine Manufacturer.
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I was made aware of the above video from
Doctor Mercola's newsletter. It is well worth the read
with a lot of information.

Doctor Mercola's posting is :>

Video: Do Flu Shots Work? Ask A Vaccine Manufacturer
In this recorded phone call to a vaccine maker, the caller asks
questions about mercury and how well the flu shot actually works.
The answer is -- perhaps unintentionally -- a bit more honest than
what you might hear from their ads.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/11/18/do-flu-shots-work-ask-a-vaccine-manufacturer.aspx

While there are printed comments at the above posting, Doctor
Marcola also has a video of himself, in which he explains that you
would have to weigh over 550 pounds for the amount of mercury
in the majority of flu vaccines to not exceed the levels of exposure
considered safe by the EPA and CDC. And that is just the mercury.
Other toxic chemicals are also in these vaccines, that he also mentions.
Doctor Marcola also stresses that vitamin D has been shown to be
the best "preventive" supplement and that it by far exceeds that of
vitamin C.

The follow video is also posted at his web page posting, cited above.:


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Alternative sources of Vitamin D such as proper sun tan beds and or
dosages of Vitamin D by your body weight are also given in the video
above. and at the web page :
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/11/18/do-flu-shots-work-ask-a-vaccine-manufacturer.aspx


Blessings,

The Toxic Reverend
https://www.myspace.com/toxicreverend

Sylph
11-18-2008, 12:35 PM
The "vaccine maker” spokeswoman sounded like an idiot.No information on what company she is supposed to be representing?

If you do internet searches on this topic, try to use Google Scholar to get a better proportion of accurate information. The flu vac is not one of the more impressive vaccines, but it saves lives and keeps people (especially elderly folks) out of the hospital.

https://www.annals.org/cgi/content/abstract/123/7/518
The Efficacy of Influenza Vaccine in Elderly Persons
A Meta-Analysis and Review of the Literature
Partial extract:
Data Synthesis: In a meta-analysis of 20 cohort studies, the pooled estimates of vaccine efficacy (odds ratio) were 56% (95% CI, 39% to 68%) for preventing respiratory illness, 53% (CI, 35% to 66%) for preventing pneumonia, 50% (CI, 28% to 65%) for preventing hospitalization, and 68% (CI, 56% to 76%) for preventing death.

Vaccine efficacy in the case control studies ranged from 32% to 45% for preventing hospitalization for pneumonia, from 31% to 65% for preventing hospital deaths from pneumonia and influenza, from 43% to 50% for preventing hospital deaths from all respiratory conditions, and from 27% to 30% for preventing deaths from all causes. The randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial showed a 50% or greater reduction in influenza-related illness.

Recent cost-effectiveness studies confirm the efficacy of influenza vaccine in reducing influenza-related morbidity and mortality and show that vaccine provides important cost savings per year per vaccinated person.

Conclusion: Despite the paucity of randomized trials, many studies confirm that influenza vaccine reduces the risks for pneumonia, hospitalization, and death in elderly persons during an influenza epidemic if the vaccine strain is identical or similar to the epidemic strain. Influenza immunization is an indispensable part of the care of persons 65 years of age and older. Annual vaccine administration requires the attention of all physicians and public health organizations.

Braggi
11-18-2008, 02:11 PM
... I was made aware of the above video from Doctor Mercola's newsletter. It is well worth the read
with a lot of information. ...

What "Doctor" Mercola is: a snake oil salesman. Consider the source. This guy sells junk: https://shop.mercola.com/

-Jeff

Sylph
11-18-2008, 06:17 PM
A little more on flu:

https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/full/10.1086/375056
Received 6 May 2002; accepted 6 February 2003; electronically published 5 June 2003.
"In early 1962 long queues attended any clinic in Birmingham offering vaccination, because three patients with smallpox were in the isolation hospital. At this time over 100 people a week were dying [of influenza] but this caused no great public agitation."
T. H. Flewett, 1963 [1 (https://www.waccobb.net/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=75256#rf1)]

"That we have chosen to worry more about anthrax than about the flu is hardly surprising. The novel is always scarier than the familiar, and the flu virus, as far as we know, isn't being sent through the mails by terrorists. But it is a strange kind of public-health policy that concerns itself more with the provenance of illness than with its consequences; and the consequences of flu, year in, year out, dwarf everything but the most alarmist bioterror scenarios."
Malcolm Gladwell, 2001 [2 (https://www.waccobb.net/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=75256#rf2)]

The health and economic consequences of recurring epidemics of influenza are widely understood [3 (https://www.waccobb.net/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=75256#rf3), 4 (https://www.waccobb.net/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=75256#rf4)]. The clinical effectiveness and cost-effectiveness of influenza vaccination in reducing influenza-associated hospitalizations and deaths among older adults are also widely known [5 (https://www.waccobb.net/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=75256#rf5) 8 (https://www.waccobb.net/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=75256#rf8)]. This knowledge has led to a substantial increase in the use of influenza vaccine in many developed countries [9 (https://www.waccobb.net/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=75256#rf9), 10 (https://www.waccobb.net/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=75256#rf10)]. Influenza also affects developing countries, and many of them have begun to use the vaccine [10 (https://www.waccobb.net/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=75256#rf10)].