Can it be true that the American Government has yet more tricks up its sleeve?
This 8 minute film has a scary ring of truth to me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge2J2lNusJs
I checked it out on Snopes (https://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=amero+currency&getit=Go&sp-a=00062d45-sp00000000&sp-advanced=1&sp-p=all&sp-w-control=1&sp-w=alike&sp-date-range=-1&sp-x=any&sp-c=100&sp-m=1&sp-s=0) and it says "False" but hmmmm.
cdegenhardt
10-17-2008, 10:31 AM
Interesting that Ameros are just starting to sell on eBay in Coins & Currency.
And bringing in a decent price. Probably more for the collector's value than anything. But the ones on eBay are Silver, not copper/rosegold coloured.
Braggi
10-17-2008, 02:42 PM
Interesting that Ameros are just starting to sell on eBay in Coins & Currency. ...
Aha! Now I'm finally seeing what this Amero thing is about. Create a mythological financial unit, then start printing the coins! (Badly done, amateurish coins at that.) The fools will line up to buy them.
No wonder there's never been anything in the news about the Amero.
Too much.
-Jeff
phooph
10-18-2008, 11:04 AM
No wonder there's never been anything in the news about the Amero.
You said, "No wonder there's never been anything in the news about the Amero."
So I sent you two videos of it's mention in TV news and a link to a page with links to print media stories. How is that like you said?
Braggi
10-21-2008, 10:44 PM
You said, "No wonder there's never been anything in the news about the Amero."
So I sent you two videos of it's mention in TV news and a link to a page with links to print media stories. How is that like you said?
Like I said, that's not news. You sent opinion pieces, not news.
Big difference. Opinions aren't necessarily facts. Big difference. There is no Amero. It was invented by a company that produces medallions. They are for sale on ebay. They are not coins. Nobody is talking about it. Vicente Fox didn't know what he was talking about if he mentioned it and I've not seen a news story, based on facts, that describes that so I don't even know if it's true. It doesn't matter anyway. Nobody wants it. Nobody would benefit from it.
The "powers that be" are killing us with the dollar. Why should they switch dicks in the middle of a screw?
Just who has the incentive to change to the Amero? The richer a person is the more he would stand to lose.
Forget about this one. It ain't happenin'. Not in our lifetimes.
-Jeff
phooph
10-22-2008, 01:44 PM
Just who has the incentive to change to the Amero? The richer a person is the more he would stand to lose.
-Jeff
If another currency were issued there would be an exchange program, plus the really rich have their wealth diversified and much of it invested in things more substantial than vapor dollars. It is usually the rich who are behind such schemes.
The US dollar currently serves as a defacto world currency as set up by the Bretton Woods agreement and the assignment of the US dollar as the world oil currency. There have been international currency conferences in the last few years in which the collapse of the dollar has been predicted and the assertion made that it is no longer reliable enough to continue to act as the international medium of exchange. Some have proposed a new international currency independent of any particular national government, and some conspiracy theorists see the current chaos with the dollar as the first steps in an engineered move to a one world government and a single currency.
The Amero is a currency that has been proposed by proponents of a North American Union to compete with the EU which currently has more market clout than the US which is losing hedgemony in world influence as a result. This is more than the pipe dream of conspiracy theorists, however, as indicated by these two documents (https://search.state.gov/search?q=Amero&x=0&y=0&site=stategov%7Coig%7Cfpc%7Cbmena%7Cusawc%7Cmepi%7Ctravel%7Cexchanges%7Ccareers%7Cfoia%7Caiep%7Cpepfar%7Ccspo&client=stategov_frontend&output=xml_no_dtd&proxystylesheet=stategov_frontend&entqr=3&lr=lang_en&oe=utf8&ie=utf8&sort=date%3AD%3AS%3Ad1) available on the US Dept. of State website. The first document mentions the Amero on page 28, and the second on page 4.
The Amero was first proposed by The Fraiser Institute (https://www.fraserinstitute.org/), a think tank concerned with issues of commerce, and the pdf of the document The Case For The Amero: The Economics and Politics of a North American Monetary Union used to be available there. It has been pulled from the website but is available for order through their catalog. However, the document, 21 Alternatives to the Amero (https://www.waccobb.net/forums/www.fraserinstitute.org/commerce.web/product_files/amero.pdf) is still available. To get a feel for who these folks are you might download their 30th Retrospective (https://www.waccobb.net/forums/www.fraserinstitute.org/files/PDFs/About_Us/30th_Retrospective.pdf) and notice the familiar names and faces.
A sort of watch dog group has created this website to inform the public about the Amero and the proposed NAU.
https://www.amerocurrency.com/
phooph
10-22-2008, 01:53 PM
It looks like the link to the 21 alternatives to the Amero was buggy, but in the meantime, I found the PDF of the original Amero document (https://www.fraserinstitute.org/commerce.web/product_files/amero.pdf)
Alex
10-23-2008, 01:09 AM
[quote=Braggi;72767]Like I said, that's not news. You sent opinion pieces, not news. Big difference. Opinions aren't necessarily facts. Big difference......
If you are defining news as purely factual, would you please define what sources you consider to be delivering news? I assume this means purely reliably, authentic, truthful, the whole story.... 'news'.
I can't think of any.
Alex
Braggi
10-23-2008, 07:26 AM
[quote=Braggi;72767]Like I said, that's not news. You sent opinion pieces, not news. Big difference. Opinions aren't necessarily facts. Big difference......
If you are defining news as purely factual, would you please define what sources you consider to be delivering news? I assume this means purely reliably, authentic, truthful, the whole story.... 'news'.
I can't think of any.
Alex
What is your point Alex? That opinion pieces must all be considered factual? Please. Your are illustrating one of the problems with the dumbing down of the US citizenry. If we can't tell the difference between opinions and facts, and determine they are actually the same thing, we are in big trouble.
Do you believe that all news is just opinion? Is there any source that you consider credible? What is it you're talking about?
The Amero isn't happening. Not happening. Don't worry about it.
-Jeff
Alex
10-24-2008, 12:01 PM
Am I saying opinion pieces should be considered factual - absolutely not. I'm saying I don't dismiss them wholly either, and I'm saying I can't think of any media 'news' sources that I consider credible.
What I am saying is that I think there are frequently puzzle pieces in it all, and sometimes corroborating info from enough alternative sources and/or opinions especially stating reasoning starts to make a more solid picture appear more likely as truth than what the mainstream media is saying. I just keep an eye on these emerging pictures to see if they get more solid or not.
But gee, you were kind of annoyed with my question and didn't answer it, then asked me the same one!! My answer as above - NO, there's no source I consider credible. So I'm still very curious what sources you consider to be credible - especially about politics, economy, military, finance, etc...
Alex
[quote=tarexi;72864]
What is your point Alex? That opinion pieces must all be considered factual? Please. Your are illustrating one of the problems with the dumbing down of the US citizenry. If we can't tell the difference between opinions and facts, and determine they are actually the same thing, we are in big trouble.
Do you believe that all news is just opinion? Is there any source that you consider credible? What is it you're talking about?
The Amero isn't happening. Not happening. Don't worry about it.