Valley Oak
08-26-2008, 07:58 AM
South Ossetia is free!
A nation is born.
Edward
A nation is born.
Edward
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MsTerry
08-26-2008, 09:02 AM
I think this shows what one dedicated man can do !!!
Bravo!
Edward and Onward.
South Ossetia is free!
A nation is born.
Edward
Bravo!
Edward and Onward.
South Ossetia is free!
A nation is born.
Edward
Braggi
08-26-2008, 09:25 AM
South Ossetia is free! ...
You may be the only one who thinks so.
I think a majority of the world see this as the latest step by Russia to recreate the Soviet Union. There is a lot of potential danger lurking here.
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/27/world/europe/27russia.html?ref=europe
The U.S./multinational corporate empire is not amused.
-Jeff
You may be the only one who thinks so.
I think a majority of the world see this as the latest step by Russia to recreate the Soviet Union. There is a lot of potential danger lurking here.
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/27/world/europe/27russia.html?ref=europe
The U.S./multinational corporate empire is not amused.
-Jeff
Valley Oak
08-26-2008, 05:43 PM
You mean me?
Come now, Ms Terry, you know I can't take any credit for that. If I didn't know any better, I'd swear you were being facetious.
Edward
I think this shows what one dedicated man can do !!!
Bravo!
Edward and Onward.
Come now, Ms Terry, you know I can't take any credit for that. If I didn't know any better, I'd swear you were being facetious.
Edward
I think this shows what one dedicated man can do !!!
Bravo!
Edward and Onward.
Valley Oak
08-26-2008, 05:53 PM
The only one who thinks so where? Certainly not in South Ossetia where it counts.
If you're talking about Americans then you're wrong again because even though most may feel the same way you do there are many (including some right here on the Wacco list) who share my position on South Ossetia. Yes, I may be in a minority in this country but is that surprising? Don't forget the historical role of the US in world affairs; it's not a pretty one at all because it has a lot of human blood on it. Remember Chile, Argentina, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Vietnam, the Congo, Indonesia, Eat Timor, etc, etc, etc? We Americans are very guilty of a lot of bloodletting for profit all over the world. Please don't preach to me with the big, bad wolf's argument in your mouth. You should know better than that.
But even here, in the US Empire, I'm certainly not alone, not by a long shot. You see, Jeff, I like being consistent. I am not one of those folks who likes to wine about freeing Tibet all of the time and then clamming my mouth tight when it comes to South Ossetia, Euskadi, etc. Or worse yet, loudly and publicly demonstrating in favor of Tibet's independence from China and then railing against the independence of a new nation, such as South Ossetia.
Edward
You may be the only one who thinks so.
I think a majority of the world see this as the latest step by Russia to recreate the Soviet Union. There is a lot of potential danger lurking here.
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/27/world/europe/27russia.html?ref=europe
The U.S./multinational corporate empire is not amused.
-Jeff
If you're talking about Americans then you're wrong again because even though most may feel the same way you do there are many (including some right here on the Wacco list) who share my position on South Ossetia. Yes, I may be in a minority in this country but is that surprising? Don't forget the historical role of the US in world affairs; it's not a pretty one at all because it has a lot of human blood on it. Remember Chile, Argentina, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Vietnam, the Congo, Indonesia, Eat Timor, etc, etc, etc? We Americans are very guilty of a lot of bloodletting for profit all over the world. Please don't preach to me with the big, bad wolf's argument in your mouth. You should know better than that.
But even here, in the US Empire, I'm certainly not alone, not by a long shot. You see, Jeff, I like being consistent. I am not one of those folks who likes to wine about freeing Tibet all of the time and then clamming my mouth tight when it comes to South Ossetia, Euskadi, etc. Or worse yet, loudly and publicly demonstrating in favor of Tibet's independence from China and then railing against the independence of a new nation, such as South Ossetia.
Edward
You may be the only one who thinks so.
I think a majority of the world see this as the latest step by Russia to recreate the Soviet Union. There is a lot of potential danger lurking here.
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/27/world/europe/27russia.html?ref=europe
The U.S./multinational corporate empire is not amused.
-Jeff
Braggi
08-26-2008, 06:08 PM
... Don't forget the historical role of the US in world affairs; it's not a pretty one at all because it has a lot of human blood on it. ...
About the only role worse than the US is Russia's. Hmmm.
And you should reread my post. It wasn't one sided.
If Diebold (I forget their new name) wins it for McCain, we could be in big trouble. Russia isn't messing around. I think the world needs an Obama presidency.
-Jeff
About the only role worse than the US is Russia's. Hmmm.
And you should reread my post. It wasn't one sided.
If Diebold (I forget their new name) wins it for McCain, we could be in big trouble. Russia isn't messing around. I think the world needs an Obama presidency.
-Jeff
Valley Oak
08-26-2008, 08:57 PM
I am voting for Barack Obama in November and yes, the US and the world need an Obama presidency.
Russia doesn't worry me nearly as much as the neo-cons would like me to. Remember something very important; fear is one of the most powerful political weapons and it has been used relentlessly by American leadership all throughout our history, not only in recent years with 9-11 being exploited to the hilt in order to push through the greatest number of anti-social public policies ever in this country (much more than with Reagan). When I refer to public policy I mean both foreign and domestic.
You're right, Russia isn't messing around. We would not be either if we were in their position and we should respect that. But this is another argument altogether. If Obama is smart (if he ends up in the White House, that is) he will respect the new status of independence of South Ossetia and Absajia.
If the companies making voting machines steal a 3rd presidential election in a row, then yes, with an asshole like McCain in office we will be in serious trouble indeed. One of the many things that a new Republican administration will do is to start the draft again but this time it will include young women as well. So our daughters, granddaughters, nieces, cousins, and sisters will to do combat overseas for McCain within the next eight years.
Edward
About the only role worse than the US is Russia's. Hmmm.
And you should reread my post. It wasn't one sided.
If Diebold (I forget their new name) wins it for McCain, we could be in big trouble. Russia isn't messing around. I think the world needs an Obama presidency.
-Jeff
Russia doesn't worry me nearly as much as the neo-cons would like me to. Remember something very important; fear is one of the most powerful political weapons and it has been used relentlessly by American leadership all throughout our history, not only in recent years with 9-11 being exploited to the hilt in order to push through the greatest number of anti-social public policies ever in this country (much more than with Reagan). When I refer to public policy I mean both foreign and domestic.
You're right, Russia isn't messing around. We would not be either if we were in their position and we should respect that. But this is another argument altogether. If Obama is smart (if he ends up in the White House, that is) he will respect the new status of independence of South Ossetia and Absajia.
If the companies making voting machines steal a 3rd presidential election in a row, then yes, with an asshole like McCain in office we will be in serious trouble indeed. One of the many things that a new Republican administration will do is to start the draft again but this time it will include young women as well. So our daughters, granddaughters, nieces, cousins, and sisters will to do combat overseas for McCain within the next eight years.
Edward
About the only role worse than the US is Russia's. Hmmm.
And you should reread my post. It wasn't one sided.
If Diebold (I forget their new name) wins it for McCain, we could be in big trouble. Russia isn't messing around. I think the world needs an Obama presidency.
-Jeff