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Zeno Swijtink
08-21-2008, 09:30 AM
My friend wrote: No one seems to be much interested in the next meeting on Global Climate Change, but it is happening, and this will influence perhaps our most important trend, so it is important to pay attention.

Climate Negotiators Reconvene This Week in Ghana (https://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hExozDqB-mXGnpa1pMx7yUs6BLmAD92M93D82)
ARTHUR MAX - The Associated Press

ACCRA, Ghana -- Negotiators meet in Ghana this week to resume work on a new climate change treaty and discuss ways to prod developing countries to join the fight against global warming.

But the latest round of talks comes at an awkward moment, with the world's poor more worried about the immediate cost of food and fuel than the uncertain long-term effects of climate change.

The weeklong U.N. climate conference opens Thursday, with nearly 1,600 delegates and environmental experts from more than 150 countries in attendance, to work on an agreement to regulate emissions of greenhouse gases.

Scientists say the gases trap the earth's heat and already have begun to cause more severe tropical storms, harsher droughts in arid areas and melting ice packs in the Arctic.

U.N. climate chief Yvo de Boer said it was significant the latest round of talks were being held in Ghana, where climate change already is being felt. Rainfall has decreased 20 percent in the last 30 years, he said on the eve of the conference, and rising sea levels threatens to swamp up to 385 square miles in the Volta Delta.

A report last year by the Nobel Prize-winning Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change predicted Africa will be among the worst hit continents if average global temperatures rise unchecked, with some 250 million people subjected to water shortages by 2020.

The negotiators have a December 2009 deadline to complete one of history's most complex international accords, designed to halve by mid-century the amount of carbon dioxide discharged into the atmosphere from transportation, industry and power generation.

The agreement would succeed the 1997 Kyoto Protocol, which expires in 2012. At least two years is needed for ratification to ensure a seamless transition.

Under Kyoto, the burden of reducing emissions fell on 37 industrial countries that agreed to cut emissions by an average of 5 percent below 1990 levels by 2012.

The United States, which refused to participate, called that accord unfair, questioning why powerful economies such as India and China were exempt from obligations. Those countries argue they were not responsible for global warming, and their first priority is to lift their people from poverty.

That gap must be bridged, says Harald Dovland, the Norwegian chairman of a key committee on updating Kyoto.

"We know what we need on a global level in terms of reductions," Dovland told The Associated Press. "We cannot continue forever saying this is an issue for the industrial countries, and no one else should do anything."

No hard decisions are expected in Accra. Delegates hope to begin drafting treaty language to be adopted at the next meeting in December in Poznan, Poland, when specific targets will be discussed for reducing carbon emissions.

Among the ideas meant to entice developing countries into the climate change process are payoffs for halting deforestation - calculated to contribute 20 percent of carbon emissions - and rewards for reducing gases from specific industries or economic sectors.

Such proposals are fraught with pitfalls, and are treated with suspicion by one side or the other.

Global economics add other complications. Dovland said his group will hold its first discussion in Accra on the economic and social "spillover effects" of steps to control climate change.

Countries that rely on tourism, for example, are concerned that travel will become more expensive if carbon taxes are imposed on airlines.

In what seems ironic today, oil-exporting countries have historically been most concerned about the economic impact of measures to curb the use of carbon-laden fossil fuels, fearing they would devastate their livelihoods.

Now, the focus is shifting toward the spillover effects of biofuels and other factors pushing up food prices.

The shape of the current climate talks was adopted at a major conference last December in Bali, Indonesia.

Accra is the third conference since then, and at least another five are scheduled before an agreement is due to be wrapped up in Copenhagen, Denmark, next year. The intensity of negotiations reflect deep political divisions over many of the thousands of details that require nailing down.

Progress has been frustratingly slow. Dovland says the Accra talks will falter "unless we come with a spirit of cooperation, trying to resolve things instead of making things more and more complicated."

"The political pressure isn't strong enough," said Kathrin Gutmann, policy coordinator of the WWF Global Climate Initiative. "A lot of governments don't have positions yet and are going through internal processes where ideas are still festering."

An unlikely group of countries has emerged as drivers of the process. South Africa, Mexico, Brazil, Switzerland and Norway have offered detailed proposals on issues from financing to help poor countries adapt to climate change, to regulating carbon emissions of international shipping and air transport.

The trick is to persuade the big players - the United States, India and China - to ease away from their entrenched self interest.

Years of negotiations have shown the limits of what countries are willing to sacrifice, said De Boer, the executive secretary of the U.N. Convention on Climate Change and the man overseeing the negotiations.

Rich countries will not accept heavy burdens on their economies, and developing countries will not agree to constraints on their growth. "If you don't meet those basic criteria you are not going to achieve success," he said.

nicofrog
08-21-2008, 03:05 PM
Thanks Zeno
for posting this, I have a young friend who is going, and another with
climate protection .org , and still others in many fields of change, it's hard to find a college student these days that is not majoring in environmental something.
It's important for people to realize that less than one percent of the worlds population has a college degree, Its ALL OF us who need to step up and make a difference, It seems the internet is where you get real news now, the local papers are fluff..
Thanks for caring Zeno
oh and bye the way
Global warming does not exist
there are weapons of mass destruction poised anywhere we must strike, Terrorists are everywhere and should all be jailed, and twinkies are good for you



My friend wrote: No one seems to be much interested in the next meeting on Global Climate Change, but it is happening, and this will influence perhaps our most important trend, so it is important to pay attention.

Climate Negotiators Reconvene This Week in Ghana (https://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hExozDqB-mXGnpa1pMx7yUs6BLmAD92M93D82)
ARTHUR MAX - The Associated Press

ACCRA, Ghana -- Negotiators meet in Ghana this week to resume work on a new climate change treaty and discuss ways to prod developing countries to join the fight against global warming.

But the latest round of talks comes at an awkward moment, with the world's poor more worried about the immediate cost of food and fuel than the uncertain long-term effects of climate change.

The weeklong U.N. climate conference opens Thursday, with nearly 1,600 delegates and environmental experts from more than 150 countries in attendance, to work on an agreement to regulate emissions of greenhouse gases.

Scientists say the gases trap the earth's heat and already have begun to cause more severe tropical storms, harsher droughts in arid areas and melting ice packs in the Arctic.

U.N. climate chief Yvo de Boer said it was significant the latest round of talks were being held in Ghana, where climate change already is being felt. Rainfall has decreased 20 percent in the last 30 years, he said on the eve of the conference, and rising sea levels threatens to swamp up to 385 square miles in the Volta Delta.

A report last year by the Nobel Prize-winning Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change predicted Africa will be among the worst hit continents if average global temperatures rise unchecked, with some 250 million people subjected to water shortages by 2020.

The negotiators have a December 2009 deadline to complete one of history's most complex international accords, designed to halve by mid-century the amount of carbon dioxide discharged into the atmosphere from transportation, industry and power generation.

The agreement would succeed the 1997 Kyoto Protocol, which expires in 2012. At least two years is needed for ratification to ensure a seamless transition.

Under Kyoto, the burden of reducing emissions fell on 37 industrial countries that agreed to cut emissions by an average of 5 percent below 1990 levels by 2012.

The United States, which refused to participate, called that accord unfair, questioning why powerful economies such as India and China were exempt from obligations. Those countries argue they were not responsible for global warming, and their first priority is to lift their people from poverty.

That gap must be bridged, says Harald Dovland, the Norwegian chairman of a key committee on updating Kyoto.

"We know what we need on a global level in terms of reductions," Dovland told The Associated Press. "We cannot continue forever saying this is an issue for the industrial countries, and no one else should do anything."

No hard decisions are expected in Accra. Delegates hope to begin drafting treaty language to be adopted at the next meeting in December in Poznan, Poland, when specific targets will be discussed for reducing carbon emissions.

Among the ideas meant to entice developing countries into the climate change process are payoffs for halting deforestation - calculated to contribute 20 percent of carbon emissions - and rewards for reducing gases from specific industries or economic sectors.

Such proposals are fraught with pitfalls, and are treated with suspicion by one side or the other.

Global economics add other complications. Dovland said his group will hold its first discussion in Accra on the economic and social "spillover effects" of steps to control climate change.

Countries that rely on tourism, for example, are concerned that travel will become more expensive if carbon taxes are imposed on airlines.

In what seems ironic today, oil-exporting countries have historically been most concerned about the economic impact of measures to curb the use of carbon-laden fossil fuels, fearing they would devastate their livelihoods.

Now, the focus is shifting toward the spillover effects of biofuels and other factors pushing up food prices.

The shape of the current climate talks was adopted at a major conference last December in Bali, Indonesia.

Accra is the third conference since then, and at least another five are scheduled before an agreement is due to be wrapped up in Copenhagen, Denmark, next year. The intensity of negotiations reflect deep political divisions over many of the thousands of details that require nailing down.

Progress has been frustratingly slow. Dovland says the Accra talks will falter "unless we come with a spirit of cooperation, trying to resolve things instead of making things more and more complicated."

"The political pressure isn't strong enough," said Kathrin Gutmann, policy coordinator of the WWF Global Climate Initiative. "A lot of governments don't have positions yet and are going through internal processes where ideas are still festering."

An unlikely group of countries has emerged as drivers of the process. South Africa, Mexico, Brazil, Switzerland and Norway have offered detailed proposals on issues from financing to help poor countries adapt to climate change, to regulating carbon emissions of international shipping and air transport.

The trick is to persuade the big players - the United States, India and China - to ease away from their entrenched self interest.

Years of negotiations have shown the limits of what countries are willing to sacrifice, said De Boer, the executive secretary of the U.N. Convention on Climate Change and the man overseeing the negotiations.

Rich countries will not accept heavy burdens on their economies, and developing countries will not agree to constraints on their growth. "If you don't meet those basic criteria you are not going to achieve success," he said.

Zeno Swijtink
08-22-2008, 01:08 PM
Some more news came in today about the Ghana climate conference. A pragmatic approach was taken in the measures recent, but large emitters need to take. - Zeno

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Climate conference makes progress on key dispute (https://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/08/22/africa/AF-Ghana-Climate-Change.php)
The Associated Press
Published: August 22, 2008


ACCRA, Ghana: Delegates at a key U.N. climate conference moved forward Friday on a plan to encourage developing countries to regulate carbon emissions by focusing on their largest industries.

The so-called "sectoral approach" sidesteps objections from countries like India and China, which refuse to accept national targets for the overall emission of the greenhouse gases blamed for global warming.

How to get developing countries to commit to reducing pollution levels has deeply divided countries seeking to craft a new climate change agreement to succeed the 1997 Kyoto Protocol, which expires in 2012.

The meeting of 1,600 delegates and environmentalist from 160 countries was the third conference this year working on the accord, due to be adopted in Copenhagen in December 2009.

The Accra meeting also was discussing ways to integrate the conservation of the world's ever-shrinking forests into the Copenhagen agreement, as well as studying ways to raise and distribute the tens of billions of dollars needed annually to help poor countries deal with the consequences of climate change.

Under the Kyoto pact, only 37 industrial countries were required to meet specific targets. Together, they were required to cut emissions by an average 5 percent from 1990 levels by 2012. The United States refused to participate in the Kyoto regime because it excluded China and other large emerging economies from any obligation.

Under the approach now taking shape, developing countries would set pollution targets for specific industries, like cement production, steel or aluminum. Unlike the industrial countries, they likely would not be punished for missing their targets.

"Something quiet but quite dramatic is happening," said David Doniger of the Natural Resources Defense Council. "People are now talking about the same idea in the same language."

China and India voiced reservations, but did not reject the concept.

"There is now a basis for discussion" on the issue, said Katrin Gutmann, policy coordinator of the WWF Global Climate Initiative. "Before, we worried there would just be more clashes."

Details of any agreement on a sectoral approach would be complex and difficult to reach, and it is only one of many disputed components of an agreement.

But consensus appeared to coalesce around the idea that industrial countries will remain legally bound to meet a national cap on their carbon emissions, while developing countries would have flexibility in deciding which industries would be controlled and at what levels.

Advanced countries would provide the technology and funding to help other countries curb emissions in heavily polluting industries.

Japan, which introduced the proposal earlier this year to a chorus of criticism, said it was pleased with the generally positive response to the modified plan it brought to Accra.

Developing countries had earlier feared the Japanese plan was a backdoor device to impose binding targets that would limit their economic development.

"That is a great advancement compared with the beginning of this year," Japanese delegate Jun Arima told the conference.

The latest proposals also were met with guarded approval by the U.S. chief delegate Harlan Watson, who saw it as a potential boon for private enterprise and investment. The idea "will help engage industry in the process" he said at the meeting. "The private sector will have an important role to play."

The second day of the conference coincided with the publication in Geneva of a new report identifying the world's "humanitarian hot spots," where millions of people are most vulnerable to a heightened risk of natural disasters due to climate change.

In 2005-2006 natural disasters killed 120,000 people, affected 271 million people and cost US$250 billion, said the joint report by the CARE relief organization and the U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs.

"Climate change is blurring the distinction between natural and man-made hazards," said the report. Weather-related disasters would occur anyway, but severe events such as droughts, floods and storms are growing more frequent and more intense — "and the consensus among experts is that we are to blame."

The report, "The Humanitarian Implications of Climate Change," said the areas at highest risk during the next 20 to 30 years are Africa, particularly the northern Sahel, the Horn of Africa and central Africa; Central and South Asia, particularly the belt from Iran and Afghanistan through Pakistan, India and the Caspian region; and Southeast Asia, especially Myanmar, Laos, Cambodia and Indonesia.