Scout is a good boy
He is a German Short-Haired Pointer
3 years old.
White and chocolate
chocolate tail(cut off at birth)
with an all chocolate head
White and brown spoted body
He is neutered.
He is up to date on vaccines.
Scout is a great dog. loves walks, loves to have fun,loves other dogs.
He really loves the water. Scout is a protective dog! He does bark at strangers. He does bark in general. I tried a citranela bark collar and that didnt work well.
He is potty trained. scout will sit on command most times. He does wine and bark until he gets attention and if you ignore him when he is wining..he will just go into a different room. Scout is a hunting dog....i dont hunt.
he is an overall great dog..he just needs some more love and more attention.i cant keep him cuz im moving to tahoe for an importajnt job and i cant take him with me..so a good home is all he needs.
call my cell asap at 7079534019
i need to find him a home by the 15th of Aug.
Barbara
08-09-2008, 07:15 PM
I am sure all of you are tired of my responses regarding "throw away pets" but here I am again. Your last sentance says it all--"have to get rid of....." Did it ever occur to you that taking on an animal is a lifetime commitment??? Do you realize that this dog, who loves you, depends on you for his LIFE??? Does that matter to you?
You say you are moving to Lake Tahoe. We were there a few months ago. This area is so pet friendly! Did you do your homework about a place to rent that accepts pets? Seems a no brainer that there would be a place for your Scout.
Have you contacted the breeder from whom you bought Scout? A reputable breeder will take a dog back, no questions asked. Did you buy this dog from a pet store or a backyard breeder? In that case you have no recourse. Have you tried contacting breed rescue? You may be too late, as millions of dogs and cats are being killed because there are no homes due to backyard breeders and less than desirable "breeders" who care only for $. If you decide to relinquish Scout to a shelter, I hope you realize that before you start the engine in your car, Scout is already dead and being bagged in a green body bag!
I apologize to Scout, not to you. I realize my words are harsh. My words are real. If you care anything about this dog you will try very hard to find him a decent home. Have you tried the Sonoma County Humane Society? They are No Kill (whatever that means since Animal Control does the dirty work of killing for them) Yes, I know they are full, but if it were my dog I would try every avenue available before I "got rid of him." In fact, I would not move anywhere if my dogs were not welcome. But then, I do not regard my pets as throw away items.
PeriodThree
08-09-2008, 07:31 PM
Your words are more than 'harsh.'
You have certain values about animals. Fine. But your actions in repeatedly personally attacking every person who can't keep their animals are fundamentally inhumane and intolerant. Your words are cruel.
I wish you would just crawl off into the place where haters go, far away from intentional and concious community.
I apologize to Scout, not to you. I realize my words are harsh. My words are real. .
bugg
08-09-2008, 09:35 PM
"Get RID of him"???
What a thing to say about your "BEST friend"!!!!
out2c
08-10-2008, 09:04 PM
I'm sorry to hear your dog needs a new home. Sounds like you are getting a lot of grief for using the wrong term " get rid of". I have to say that I don't post anything on here for the very fact that those who respond can be very aggressive and rude. My posting is not to give any advice to you and your dog, I myself had to find better homes for some small animals that my children thought they were up for the responsibility and were not. After 3 years of me providing all the care and interactive support I needed to say good bye and find a home that was appropriate for them and there for I was caring for them by finding a better owner.
Mostly I am very discouraged to read the aggressive comments " opinions " of those who participate on this forum. I will be aggressive myself only to say when I read some of these comments, the author of these responses seems to relish in " ripping someone a new one ".
Best of luck for your dog and all you people out there mad as hell for what goes on in life, try for one day, doing and saying and being all positive. Just be supportive, not demeaning just because someone is struggling.
djmama
08-10-2008, 11:03 PM
I foster dogs that other people throw away, and I have a lot of empathy with Barbara's position. There's nothing in her post that isn't true, so why shoot the messenger?
At the same time, we don't know everything about the owner's situation or motivation, and maybe he really has no choice. If it's just the barking and whining, that could probably be dealt with. There are some times when a dog has to be let go - owner too ill to care for it, or homeless, or the dog threatens the children - but it is so painful and frustrating to see animals treated as disposable.
At least Scout is young - more likely to get placed. The ones that really tear me up are the older dogs who have given their all to a family, then the owners place an ad like "Best dog in the world needs loving home. We just can't give him the attention he needs anymore, etc., etc." Sure, let somebody else nurse their dog through his final years. But I digress.
Best wishes to you, Scout's owner, in finding him a good home before you leave. It could happen. Have you considered checking with hunters? Maybe there are some hunting clubs around, or you could put a notice up where hunters buy stuff.
Malene
08-11-2008, 05:45 AM
I too am very sympathetic of Barbara's position. I have been involved with quite a few cat rescues. Like Barbara I have had my nose rubbed in the ugly situations when pet guardians stop living up to their responsibilities.
So this guy is moving - what is his reason for not taking his dog with him? How can that ever be excused. Ohh, yes - I get it - a job. An important job. Right!
So Scout gets to suffer. As literally millions on millions of companion pets in the US suffers every day. Those of us who watches that specific suffering might be a little short fused with those causing it.
I rarely say anything about this any more though. I have long since realized that a lot of humans cant even take proper care of their kids - so how can we even start to expect them to take care of their animal companions.
I hope Scout finds a good home. One that would never even consider abandoning him for their own gain.
One that consider the trust and love of a companion sacred.
Malene
I'm sorry to hear your dog needs a new home. Sounds like you are getting a lot of grief for using the wrong term " get rid of". I have to say that I don't post anything on here for the very fact that those who respond can be very aggressive and rude. My posting is not to give any advice to you and your dog, I myself had to find better homes for some small animals that my children thought they were up for the responsibility and were not. After 3 years of me providing all the care and interactive support I needed to say good bye and find a home that was appropriate for them and there for I was caring for them by finding a better owner.
Mostly I am very discouraged to read the aggressive comments " opinions " of those who participate on this forum. I will be aggressive myself only to say when I read some of these comments, the author of these responses seems to relish in " ripping someone a new one ".
Best of luck for your dog and all you people out there mad as hell for what goes on in life, try for one day, doing and saying and being all positive. Just be supportive, not demeaning just because someone is struggling.
PeriodThree
08-11-2008, 09:57 AM
There's nothing in her post that isn't true, so why shoot the messenger?
You ask 'why shoot the messenger?' I say the messenger is, and should be, attacked because she is hurting people. She is attacking people who are in a great deal of pain at the life choices they are being forced to make about their 'animal companions' because in her value system animals have equal moral weight as people.
I personally think she should be confronted because she, like most of the animal 'rights' people is cruelly judgmental of people.
A person is not 'irresponsible' because their life changes and they can't keep their animals.
I certainly understand the claim that animals have equal moral weight as people, but I categorically reject that claim. And I claim that people who cause emotional pain to people, as this 'messenger' does, are simply nasty.
Dogs are wonderful, but they are not people.
shellebelle
08-11-2008, 10:15 AM
After 3 years of me providing all the care and interactive support I needed to say good bye and find a home that was appropriate for them and there for I was caring for them by finding a better owner.
These are the best words I have heard in a long time!
I was caring for them by finding them a place that better fit them! YES!!!!!!!!
Yes, Yes, YES!!!!
Sometimes the best thing you can do is find someone who has time and love to give. A better situation.
This week my "best animal friend" is in Tahoe on vacation. He was given up to the Humane Society by an elderly man who could not care for him any longer. This wonderful man trained him, loved him, kept him well for a number of years before he was forced to allow his friend to be cared for by someone more fitting.
Dreyfus is amazing, he keeps me company and safe, he greets me every work day but he's not mine. Yet he has become part of community and his responsibilities are shared by all where I work. When I have my own space Dreyfus will be a regular visitor but he won't be mine. Yet if anything happened to his owners he has already been promised to me and me to him. This promise influences my decisions - it's why I will not have another dog unless it's a match with Dreyfus.
I am grateful for the original owner who cared enough to do all the right things to ensure Dreyfus was a wonderful companion and also that instead of neglecting him he had the forethought to place him up for adoption. I am glad the current owners have enough forethought to say look at some point he will potentially need a younger family and he loves you and you love him so lets make that the plan.
No there should be no guilt for needing to share your companion. It hurts enough to give them up despite knowing it is sometimes the best thing for everyone.
ElizabethM
08-11-2008, 11:35 AM
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<o:p></o:p>I found Barbara’s demeanor quite rude and condescending. Cruel and harsh are accurate in my humble opinion...weather "real" or not.<o:p></o:p>
You seek to serve the Animals of the world by mis-treating the humans?<o:p></o:p>
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You have good insights, advice and ideas Barbara...It’s too bad they were all shrouded in negativity, disrespect and assumption.<o:p></o:p>
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Please be more mindful and considerate with those who post...no matter how righteous you feel about the topic.<o:p></o:p>
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Many people have been quite bruised by this community and NEVER show up again on wacco due to emotional abuse...you, Barbara are being asked to refine your style to invite more humanity and kindness and consideration into our shared world. <o:p></o:p>
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Please consider that you may be better received and respected if you offer some compassion and understanding along with your opinions and beliefs.<o:p></o:p>
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<o:p></o:p>I mostly sit on the sidelines of this wacco posting community...having had a brush in with the snarling fault finding quick to bark folks who love to spend their time lobbing catchy criticism back and forth. <o:p></o:p>
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Have a great day everyone,<o:p></o:p>
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<o:p> ps</o:p><o:p>...To Scouts buddy...Im sorry you had to face this abuse while also dealing with significant life changes...best of luck finding Scout a good home.</o:p>
I am sure all of you are tired of my responses regarding "throw away pets" but here I am again. Your last sentance says it all--"have to get rid of....." Did it ever occur to you that taking on an animal is a lifetime commitment??? Do you realize that this dog, who loves you, depends on you for his LIFE??? Does that matter to you?
You say you are moving to Lake Tahoe. We were there a few months ago. This area is so pet friendly! Did you do your homework about a place to rent that accepts pets? Seems a no brainer that there would be a place for your Scout.
Have you contacted the breeder from whom you bought Scout? A reputable breeder will take a dog back, no questions asked. Did you buy this dog from a pet store or a backyard breeder? In that case you have no recourse. Have you tried contacting breed rescue? You may be too late, as millions of dogs and cats are being killed because there are no homes due to backyard breeders and less than desirable "breeders" who care only for $. If you decide to relinquish Scout to a shelter, I hope you realize that before you start the engine in your car, Scout is already dead and being bagged in a green body bag!
I apologize to Scout, not to you. I realize my words are harsh. My words are real. If you care anything about this dog you will try very hard to find him a decent home. Have you tried the Sonoma County Humane Society? They are No Kill (whatever that means since Animal Control does the dirty work of killing for them) Yes, I know they are full, but if it were my dog I would try every avenue available before I "got rid of him." In fact, I would not move anywhere if my dogs were not welcome. But then, I do not regard my pets as throw away items.
Barry
08-11-2008, 06:53 PM
[I always find it interesting that while there are homeless in our streets and countless people with not enough to eat, it's pet care that sparks the most passion.]
Our guidelines call for treating each other with respect. And for that matter, that extends to our beloved furry friends.
So what is respect in this case? rocker3842008 has decided that the best thing to do is to find a new home for his dog. He posted some of his reasons, but certainly its not the whole story. What we do know is that he is making an effort to find Scout a new home and is not just abandoning him.
Who knows, it may be that Scout's new home will be way better! And is this not an exercise in community, to work together for the benefit of all?
Respect in this case, IMO, is to give Rocker the benefit of the doubt that he is making the best decision for himself and his pet. Clearly Rocker sees that Scout depends on him.
If you truly want to be helpful, you can provide information and support for helping him find a new home for Scout, as you did, Barbara, but without all the guilt trips and judgments ("throw away pets"). And that information might include published/verifiable kill rates at shelters so rocker knows what's entailed with that option, without the shaming.
As you yourself said, Barbara, your words are harsh and you all but accuse rocker of being irresponsible. I find this uncalled for and disrespectful. By the same token some of the replies to Barbara's post have also been far from kind and compassionate.
So please people, treat each other with the kindness, compassion and respect that you think pets deserve! Remember that we are truly one, we all share the same spirit, and we are all trying to do the best that we can. :heart:
Here's a little bit of wisdom I came across while thinking about this conversation:
Before you criticize someone you should walk a mile in their shoes...
That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.