so, what does this tolerant community think about
the human being that decided to get pregnant?
Should we be able to do whatever we can medically
just because we can?
Is this a free choice?
Or is this a disturbed person who just needs more attention?
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Sylph
07-26-2008, 02:48 PM
Well, he certainly seems to be craving attention, and also the money for making his and his family's story public. From the pragmatic viewpoint, he has an interesting story to tell, and he chose to be in control of the situation and reap the benefits. The publicity may someday cause some problems for the child. Really, that is the only negative aspect I can foresee. However, this baby will probably grow up knowing her story inside and out, so it may be a non-issue.
I hadn't seen the photos of him, only heard about it on the news. One can't help be intrigued by a man with a pregnant belly!
I think it is a good thing, all in all, that the baby is starting out with a mom and dad who are committed to one another, which is more than so many children have. This baby was no accident, but carefully planned and wanted.
Why should there be any condemnation of families that are 'non-traditional'?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2453653/Pregnant-man-Thomas-Beatie-First-pictures-of-baby-girl.html
MsTerry
07-26-2008, 08:07 PM
I think it is a good thing, all in all, that the baby is starting out with a mom and dad who are committed to one another, which is more than so many children have.
I think most babies start out with a mom and dad that are committed, It is what happens after that, that makes the difference in a child's live. This person seems to have a personal problem deciding whether to commit to being a man or a woman.
This baby was no accident, but carefully planned and wanted.
I am not impressed with that statement at all!
My son is in a class where one of his friends, who was carefully planned and wanted and spermbanked, now has four moms to deal with.
Another classmate adopted from China, carefully planned and wanted, now has to travel between two parents.
Sylph
07-26-2008, 09:59 PM
Ms. Terry, you keep calling the man, "this person". According to what I've read over the years about transgendered people, they were born one sex but always felt sure they were supposed the be the other. He is a "he" who chose to be man at some point...taking hormones, having his breasts removed...without completely removing his female organs. I don't think he is confused about which gender he is. What greater demonstration of 'secure in his masculinity' is there than going through nine months of pregnancy! These are interesting times....
And yes, being 'planned' doesn't matter that much in the whole scheme of childrearing. A child minimally needs at least one parent or caregiver to give him or her unconditional love...consistently, no?
MsTerry
07-27-2008, 09:07 AM
Ms. Terry, you keep calling the man, "this person". According to what I've read over the years about transgendered people, they were born one sex but always felt sure they were supposed the be the other. He is a "he" who chose to be man at some point...taking hormones, having his breasts removed...without completely removing his female organs. I don't think he is confused about which gender he is. What greater demonstration of 'secure in his masculinity' is there than going through nine months of pregnancy! These are interesting times....
Yes, I think this human being is a person. I also think this person is confused about his/her sexual identity.Taking male hormones and gaining facial hair did not diminish the female desire to carry a child. The decision to not remove the female reproductive organs (I don't know if that includes the vagina) is a deliberate choice to make the sex-change a reversible one, in case being a male didn't work out.
What greater demonstration of 'secure in his masculinity' is there than going through nine months of pregnancy!
I have no idea what you mean with this :hmmm:
A child minimally needs at least one parent or caregiver to give him or her unconditional love...consistently, no?
And in this case, would this person be the mom or the dad?