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sd gross
06-06-2008, 11:06 PM
Rejection
by stephen d gross

I got another rejection notice today. Once again, the rejectors shared with me their aspirations - they're always wishing something. Today they wished "we could personally respond to your submission". Sounds like a pen pal I once had who turned out to be a Dominatrix.
With the passing of the years I've grown used to being spurned Hundreds of apologetic 'thank yous, and 'we wishs', have slithered into my post office box waiting their turn to hiss, "pleassse don't take it persssonally", and, "pleassse ressst assssured, our decisssion has nothing to do with the quality of your writing" What a relief!
Once, upon Gloria's suggestion, I made a pilgrimmage to Jack London's Wolf House in Glen Ellen in order to be comforted by the rejection notices with which London covered his wall . This was shortly before Jack found wealth and happily went off Snarking.
Upon a time, I kept a file of 'nay-notes' which amused me because the prose employed in the art of gentle letdown was like the hype you'd see on billboards if you cruised America's highways in the Eisenhower Years. Mostly mechanical and banal, they sound like they were written by the big Robot (Michael Rennie's mute buddy) in, "The Day The Earth Stood Still"
I've enjoyed refusal prose from National Geographic, The Fainting Goat Association Monthly, Mad, Harpers, Vogue, Spitball, the Union of Orthodox Rabbis, Grit, Vital Christianity, Downbeat, - and I have one entire wall-full of cheekiness from the New Yorker. The urbane rag's curt, economically-worded rejection slip with its famous logo on the mast serves to cheer wannabes in millions of American homes each week. In fact, I bet I'm in fairly good company. (I even considered suggesting the New Yorker design their rejection slips so that they make up pieces of a sort of jigsaw puzzle which, after you get all 100 pieces and assemble them correctly, wins you some sort of prize - such as a book entitled, "How to Get Magazines to Publish Your Stuff")
Having been turned down so often, it's hard for me to imagine ever receiving a note saying, "Dear Stevie, we love it - here's money!" If I did, I imagine the shock (along with last night's New York cheesecake) might cause me to suffer heart failure. This 'coronary' 'fantasy' intrigued me to where I actually wrote a story about it.
In my tale, I've been attempting to get a poem or a piece of fiction (or a bit of my compulsive-impulsive doggerel) accepted by The New Yorker for many years. I tell my sweetie, Gloria, that if I ever did actually have something accepted, the jolt of joy would surely kick-start a heart attack.
I write the story but instead of submitting it, I leave it lying around (subconsciously hoping it will be "discovered" by God-knows-who?), because my acceptance of being chronically rejected has eroded my motivation. I used to play poker. I know better than to waste more stamps - throw good gelt after bad...
Unbeknownst to me, my closest friend (Gloria), with naught but my best interests at heart, submits my story and - of course It gets published - but I don't know that until, one day, I pick up our subscriber's copy of the New Yorker at the post office. What happens next? Do I see it immediately and drop dead on U. S. Government property? Do I arrive home and then, sometime later in the day perhaps, discover it and croak with a smile on my face? You can't guess, right? The fact of the matter is THEY DIDN'T CARE! I sent them my artfully crafted tale, which had much to do with Real Life and the New Yorker, and received in return the dreaded, albeit expected rejection slip. Obviously, how incredibly clever I am doesn't mean a whit to them. If it did, someone (probably an old Bohemian who remembers what it's like trying to 'break in') would take a few minutes to pencil a personal, "you're clever kid, but it stinks", wouldn't they?
Gloria says I expect too much from people. She tells me I set myself up for rejection and disappointment and when it comes, I take it too much to heart - too personally. Of course I do! It's me who's being rejected, isn't it?
Someone suggested that my loathing of rejection is rooted deeply in my past. That it evolved because I was short and broke my nose three times. In America, a misaligned schnozz means you either play football or box, or you're a member of The Tribe, which means different things to different peoples. But it's the responses (or lack of them) I've gotten that unbalance me. They've come from well-known and varied publications such as Boys Life, Woman's Day, The Paris Review... but they're so chilly, so brusque, so totally...impersonal!.
Even a rubber stamped image of someone holding aloft a middle finger would be a more tolerable rejection than the bland, sanitized pap I usually receive. I'm wearying of the 'unfortunatelys', the 'we're sorrys', the 'we regrets' and the 'not suitables', but I'm not sure exactly what to do about it other than keep plugging away.
It's true I have received some very excellent feedback, people who've found my work "humorous" or "amusing", and I suppose that's what keeps me going. And I believe there are thousands of hacks out there like myself, looking for a forum and a bit of recognition, diddling on keyboards and slapping stamps on envelopes who share my sentiments.
If I keep churning it out, maybe someday I'll find someone who will print me, drape page after page with my hypnotic prose and put it out there where it'll bedazzle millions. Then I can put this silly .410 away. Yeah.... print me LARGE. Print me often. I mean really print me good!
Just fucking print me.

Lenny
06-07-2008, 05:49 AM
Long suffering will only make you a more faceted person. You have an admirable trait in all of this: keep writing. Whether published or not, to pour your soul out onto print, to find the right word, phrase, sentence, to construct and clarify, all that, and to KEEP ON WRITING is a very admirable virtue. Lucky you.

babaruss
06-08-2008, 06:35 PM
Long suffering will only make you a more faceted person. You have an admirable trait in all of this: keep writing. Whether published or not, to pour your soul out onto print, to find the right word, phrase, sentence, to construct and clarify, all that, and to KEEP ON WRITING is a very admirable virtue. Lucky you.



It seems to me that if one wishes to avoid personal angst, and other forms of self torment it would be better to write for the pure love of writing, and not worry about those heartless rejection slips.
The harder we try to please someone, the more screwed up our writing may become.
Avoid needless pressure....put that 410 away, develop a 'divine don't give a damned' attitude about outcomes, and write, write, write.

Love what you do, do what you love, and to hell with what anyone else thinks.
Russ

Leafstorm
06-08-2008, 07:58 PM
Stephen,

Sorry to hear you haven't gotten published yet. That's surprising and discouraging because your writing is good. I've been trying for only half a year now and it's frustrating. I finished my novel last October and started querying agents in November. So far I've received 41 rejections out of 72 sent. The best response I received was a full page letter from David Gernert, John Grisham's agent. He loved my opening chapter, and gave me some good advise on how to improve the rest. Maybe I should have asked him to publish the first chapter and promised him I'd send the rest later.

A writer friend of mine gave me a cartoon that shows a man standing next to a large wall hanging made of many pieces of paper. The caption reads: "Writer Bernard Ferguson proudly displays this beautiful handmade quilt which is made up of over 15,000 rejection slips he has received during the last twenty years." I laughed 'til I cried.

Have you tried publishing online for peanuts or less? I had one of my prose poems published at The Cafe Irreal, and they paid me a penny per word. I haven't cashed the check for $2.89 yet - I want to get some investment advice first. The real value is that I now mention it in my query letters.

And here's an interesting article about a writer who built a "platform" for himself - attractive to agents and publishers - by sharing his novel via a free podcast:
https://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2008/04/05/DDS7VUH5M.DTL (https://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2008/04/05/DDS7VUH5M.DTL)

Anyway, keep writing. And good luck with the New Yorker rejection slip jigsaw puzzle. Let me know if you need some pieces. I haven't received any yet from that august ego crusher, but I'd be happy to start accumulating some. That I know I can do. :thumbsup:

Ken

enigmaha
06-09-2008, 12:47 AM
I remember seeing a wonderful cartoon in a magazine many years ago, (dare I say I recollect it was The New Yorker) the gist of which has stayed with me. It went something like this:

Having just received a rejection letter, a writer is shown seated at his desk, scribbling the following:

Dear Sirs,

I found your letter of rejection to be terse, insipid, and utterly lacking in good taste, therefore I have no recourse but to reject your rejection letter!

__________________________________________________________

Remember, many of the greats were rejected innumerable times before finally getting published! Believe in your worth and don't give up!

Good luck!

Andrea



____________________________________________________________

Stephen,

Sorry to hear you haven't gotten published yet. That's surprising and discouraging because your writing is good. I've been trying for only half a year now and it's frustrating. I finished my novel last October and started querying agents in November. So far I've received 41 rejections out of 72 sent. The best response I received was a full page letter from David Gernert, John Grisham's agent. He loved my opening chapter, and gave me some good advise on how to improve the rest. Maybe I should have asked him to publish the first chapter and promised him I'd send the rest later.

A writer friend of mine gave me a cartoon that shows a man standing next to a large wall hanging made of many pieces of paper. The caption reads: "Writer Bernard Ferguson proudly displays this beautiful handmade quilt which is made up of over 15,000 rejection slips he has received during the last twenty years." I laughed 'til I cried.

Have you tried publishing online for peanuts or less? I had one of my prose poems published at The Cafe Irreal, and they paid me a penny per word. I haven't cashed the check for $2.89 yet - I want to get some investment advice first. The real value is that I now mention it in my query letters.

And here's an interesting article about a writer who built a "platform" for himself - attractive to agents and publishers - by sharing his novel via a free podcast:
https://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2008/04/05/DDS7VUH5M.DTL (https://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2008/04/05/DDS7VUH5M.DTL)

Anyway, keep writing. And good luck with the New Yorker rejection slip jigsaw puzzle. Let me know if you need some pieces. I haven't received any yet from that august ego crusher, but I'd be happy to start accumulating some. That I know I can do. :thumbsup:

Ken

Lenny
06-09-2008, 05:17 AM
It seems to me that if one wishes to avoid personal angst, and other forms of self torment it would be better to write for the pure love of writing, and not worry about those heartless rejection slips.
The harder we try to please someone, the more screwed up our writing may become. Avoid needless pressure....put that 410 away, develop a 'divine don't give a damned' attitude about outcomes, and write, write, write.
Love what you do, do what you love, and to hell with what anyone else thinks.Russ

The "reason" you or I perceive "why" he's writing, even if he GIVES us a "reason" why he's writing is not really important now, is it! As long as one keeps writing is about the only thing that really matters. IMO, you give him an excuse to stop writing.
As for avoiding personal angst, etc, then lay down and lick your sores as that won't make anybody a good anything. It is not how people and their personalities, abilities, or truly human selves grow. You honestly don't think "it's all good" makes us really human, do you? Pshaw!

babaruss
06-09-2008, 09:24 AM
The "reason" you or I perceive "why" he's writing, even if he GIVES us a "reason" why he's writing is not really important now, is it! As long as one keeps writing is about the only thing that really matters. IMO, you give him an excuse to stop writing.
As for avoiding personal angst, etc, then lay down and lick your sores as that won't make anybody a good anything. It is not how people and their personalities, abilities, or truly human selves grow. You honestly don't think "it's all good" makes us really human, do you? Pshaw!

I am completely lost ...trying to understand how your comments relate to what I wrote.
Maybe senilty is creeping in...after all I am fast approaching the age when such things happen.
My thought was basically 'write because you have a need/desire to write'.
Don't hang your heart on your sleeve where rejection slips are concerned.

I cannot see anywhere in what I wrote that I was 'giving anyone permission to quit writing'. If anything it was more about suggesting that writing for the love of writing was an end in itself.

But considering my mind, and what comes from it might be completely fogged
I would appreciate clarification regarding what you saw my comments that brought about your (to me) strange response.
Russ

Lenny
06-10-2008, 05:39 AM
We are approaching the same age. It's probable that I misread your intent. No, wait, now that I re-read your post, I am completely wrong! I missed it entirely. I apologize.
After your initial sentence, "It seems to me that if one wishes to avoid personal angst, and other forms of self torment it would be better to write for the pure love of writing, and not worry about those heartless rejection slips.", I started focusing on your commenting on his angst and personal pressure. I thought you were trying to calm him down and discard the very emotions and juices that may keep some writers going. I imagined some folks write out of angst & torment, as the other motive, "the pure love of writing" is denied them.
I apologize again and will try to read more carefully, rather than go under the lash again! Ten, no 20 lashes for me (hopefully with a wet noodle only).


I am completely lost ...trying to understand how your comments relate to what I wrote. Maybe senilty is creeping in...after all I am fast approaching the age when such things happen.
My thought was basically 'write because you have a need/desire to write'.
Don't hang your heart on your sleeve where rejection slips are concerned.
I cannot see anywhere in what I wrote that I was 'giving anyone permission to quit writing'. If anything it was more about suggesting that writing for the love of writing was an end in itself.

But considering my mind, and what comes from it might be completely fogged I would appreciate clarification regarding what you saw my comments that brought about your (to me) strange response.
Russ

babaruss
06-10-2008, 02:12 PM
We are approaching the same age. It's probable that I misread your intent. No, wait, now that I re-read your post, I am completely wrong! I missed it entirely. I apologize.
After your initial sentence, "It seems to me that if one wishes to avoid personal angst, and other forms of self torment it would be better to write for the pure love of writing, and not worry about those heartless rejection slips.", I started focusing on your commenting on his angst and personal pressure. I thought you were trying to calm him down and discard the very emotions and juices that may keep some writers going. I imagined some folks write out of angst & torment, as the other motive, "the pure love of writing" is denied them.
I apologize again and will try to read more carefully, rather than go under the lash again! Ten, no 20 lashes for me (hopefully with a wet noodle only).

Apologies are not necessary, as no offense was taken.
Just wanted to make sure my mind had not completely slipped a cog.
Lashes with wet noodles might possibly be fun, so I will not deny you that pleasure
Russ