I've seen a flyer and a website on a nanofuel additive that claims to improve fuel economy, reduce emissions, clean your engine, boost power and extend engine life. Has anyone had any actual experience with using it? Would love to hear about it.
nbolmer
06-07-2008, 08:47 AM
It's another MLM scam that's been overseas for quite a while, and has now hit the US. There is no magic juice for your car; if there were, it wouldn't be advertised with flyers, but through legitimate channels.
I've seen a flyer and a website on a nanofuel additive that claims to improve fuel economy, reduce emissions, clean your engine, boost power and extend engine life. Has anyone had any actual experience with using it? Would love to hear about it.
danejasper
06-09-2008, 11:32 PM
Cultivate a healthy sense of skepticism. It will save you a lot of money over the years.
-Dane
Amie
06-11-2008, 06:36 PM
I've seen a flyer and a website on a nanofuel additive that claims to improve fuel economy, reduce emissions, clean your engine, boost power and extend engine life. Has anyone had any actual experience with using it? Would love to hear about it.
Excuse me, but I asked about actual experience with nanotech fuel additives, not random putdowns concerning merchandising techniques or my perceived gullibility. My mechanic is also curious about the additives. So, any REAL experience, not just unsubstantiated dissing?
danejasper
06-11-2008, 07:00 PM
Excuse me, but I asked about actual experience with nanotech fuel additives, not random putdowns concerning merchandising techniques or my perceived gullibility. My mechanic is also curious about the additives. So, any REAL experience, not just unsubstantiated dissing?
[crickets chirping]...
I have an idea - how about you buy some and let us know what it does for your gas mileage. Then we can all diss or praise together, based upon your REAL experience.
-Dane
Zeno Swijtink
06-11-2008, 09:29 PM
I've seen a flyer and a website on a nanofuel additive that claims to improve fuel economy, reduce emissions, clean your engine, boost power and extend engine life. Has anyone had any actual experience with using it? Would love to hear about it.
Which nanofuel additive? There are many. Can you give some details?
raygeorge51
06-13-2008, 12:30 AM
Hi Amie, Dane and Zeno,
I was able to get a sample bottle of the eeFuel about a month ago, which is the product marketed by Fuel Legacy, and I have used it for 3 tankfuls. I meticulously checked my mileage for 2 tankfuls prior to putting anything in it, to get an accurate representation of my mpg, which turned out to be 24mpg. I drive a 2002 Mitsubishi Galant, 4-cylinder engine, with 90,000 miles on it. As predicted by the company, I had no change after the first tankful. They say that the first couple tanks are mostly cleaning out the engine, and you may not see any mpg gain. But after the second tank, I got 26.7mpg. After the third full tank I got 28.3mpg. The car also feels like it's running a little better, but that might be wishful thinking. The mileage, however, is real. I am driving on my 4th tank right now. I like the fact that you only have to use a tiny amount with each fill-up.
Zeno Swijtink
06-13-2008, 08:36 AM
Hi Amie, Dane and Zeno,
I was able to get a sample bottle of the eeFuel about a month ago, which is the product marketed by Fuel Legacy, and I have used it for 3 tankfuls. I meticulously checked my mileage for 2 tankfuls prior to putting anything in it, to get an accurate representation of my mpg, which turned out to be 24mpg. I drive a 2002 Mitsubishi Galant, 4-cylinder engine, with 90,000 miles on it. As predicted by the company, I had no change after the first tankful. They say that the first couple tanks are mostly cleaning out the engine, and you may not see any mpg gain. But after the second tank, I got 26.7mpg. After the third full tank I got 28.3mpg. The car also feels like it's running a little better, but that might be wishful thinking. The mileage, however, is real. I am driving on my 4th tank right now. I like the fact that you only have to use a tiny amount with each fill-up.
You may be on to something, but with the last three tanks I have also gotten a better mileage, without using any gas additives (from +/- 60mpg to +/- 64mpg)!
There are several explanations for this:
1. Some of it may be fluctuation because of certain trips I made. Last year I made longer a longer highway trip where I got up to 74m/g on a tank.
2. During the colder weather the companies have to add more ethanol for air quality reasons. Ethanol has a lower energy density and leads to lower mileage.
3. During the warmer months mileage tends to be better because the engine does not need to heat up, and, probably more important, because your tire pressure is higher and that gives the car less friction to overcome hence better mileage.
Since you are doing an experiment you may also have changed your driving inclinations in subtle way that were largely unnoticed by yourself, such as fewer sudden de-acceleration and de-accelerations.
Other people may be able to point to other ways in which you need to improve your experimental design that excludes these explanations.
As I said, you may be on to something but it's inconclusive I would say.
Amie
06-13-2008, 07:57 PM
Thanks, Ray, for sharing your actual experience with ee nanotech additive, and also to Zeno for the reasoned analysis of why rating its efficacy with just a few tankfuls might be inconclusive. I'm sure we'd all appreciate an update after a few more tankfuls, or a report from someone who's used the product longer. This has been very helpful.
You may be on to something, but with the last three tanks I have also gotten a better mileage, without using any gas additives (from +/- 60mpg to +/- 64mpg)!
There are several explanations for this:
1. Some of it may be fluctuation because of certain trips I made. Last year I made longer a longer highway trip where I got up to 74m/g on a tank.
2. During the colder weather the companies have to add more ethanol for air quality reasons. Ethanol has a lower energy density and leads to lower mileage.
3. During the warmer months mileage tends to be better because the engine does not need to heat up, and, probably more important, because your tire pressure is higher and that gives the car less friction to overcome hence better mileage.
Since you are doing an experiment you may also have changed your driving inclinations in subtle way that were largely unnoticed by yourself, such as fewer sudden de-acceleration and de-accelerations.
Other people may be able to point to other ways in which you need to improve your experimental design that excludes these explanations.
As I said, you may be on to something but it's inconclusive I would say.
Braggi
06-13-2008, 09:20 PM
... I'm sure we'd all appreciate an update after a few more tankfuls, or a report from someone who's used the product longer. This has been very helpful.
There is a logic to automobile "additives" helping with mileage: that is increased lubrication of the engine (or other parts) improves mileage. If nanotech materials cling to engine parts and reduce friction that should do it. That is one of the promises of nanotech so a "real" product should appear some day.
"Synthetic" engine oils work by reducing friction and for some engines make a significant difference. However, a lot of fuel additives have come and gone over the years and nearly all have proven worthless. I understand the skeptic's view. It's based in experience of one kind.
Along with Amie, I await news of further hands on experience with these products.
-Jeff
Zeno Swijtink
06-14-2008, 08:01 AM
Hi Amie, Dane and Zeno,
I was able to get a sample bottle of the eeFuel about a month ago, which is the product marketed by Fuel Legacy, and I have used it for 3 tankfuls. I meticulously checked my mileage for 2 tankfuls prior to putting anything in it, to get an accurate representation of my mpg, which turned out to be 24mpg. I drive a 2002 Mitsubishi Galant, 4-cylinder engine, with 90,000 miles on it. As predicted by the company, I had no change after the first tankful. They say that the first couple tanks are mostly cleaning out the engine, and you may not see any mpg gain. But after the second tank, I got 26.7mpg. After the third full tank I got 28.3mpg. The car also feels like it's running a little better, but that might be wishful thinking. The mileage, however, is real. I am driving on my 4th tank right now. I like the fact that you only have to use a tiny amount with each fill-up.
Ray,
What cost-savings, say per 100m driven, would this add up to?
I also wonder whether the cost of this product would go up with the prize of gas since the additive may function economically as a substitute good (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substitute_good).
Zeno Swijtink
07-18-2008, 08:24 AM
Hi Amie, Dane and Zeno,
I was able to get a sample bottle of the eeFuel about a month ago, which is the product marketed by Fuel Legacy, and I have used it for 3 tankfuls. I meticulously checked my mileage for 2 tankfuls prior to putting anything in it, to get an accurate representation of my mpg, which turned out to be 24mpg. I drive a 2002 Mitsubishi Galant, 4-cylinder engine, with 90,000 miles on it. As predicted by the company, I had no change after the first tankful. They say that the first couple tanks are mostly cleaning out the engine, and you may not see any mpg gain. But after the second tank, I got 26.7mpg. After the third full tank I got 28.3mpg. The car also feels like it's running a little better, but that might be wishful thinking. The mileage, however, is real. I am driving on my 4th tank right now. I like the fact that you only have to use a tiny amount with each fill-up.
Hi Ray, what have been your recent experiences with this additive?