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Zeno Swijtink
04-30-2008, 12:55 PM
https://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/35280.html

Can Anything Be Done About Skyrocketing Oil Prices?
KEVIN G. HALL - McClatchy Newspapers

WASHINGTON -- President Bush lamented Tuesday that there was no magic wand to wave to lower oil prices, but there are simple steps he could take to lower the soaring price of crude. Here are some answers to questions about making oil cheaper.

Q: Bush said, "I think that if there was a magic wand to say, 'OK, drop price,' I'd do that. ...But there is no magic wand to wave right now." Is there nothing he can do?

A: One step that could have an immediate impact would be to fill the Strategic Petroleum Reserve with heavier, sour crude oil. Right now, the SPR is being partially filled by light, sweet crude, which is lower in sulfur. This is the variety most sought after by refiners and taking it off global markets and putting it into the reserve makes it more scarce, thus higher priced. About three-tenths of a percent of global supply of light, sweet crude is being diverted to the SPR.

Q: What would this switch achieve?

Philip Verleger, a noted oil industry analyst, believes this move could help lower the price of gasoline, and diesel fuel could fall by $1 a gallon.

Q: Why would switching what goes into the SPR make a difference?

A: The heavy crude oil sells for a lower price globally, so this makes economic sense. And it makes more light, sweet crude available and thus cheaper.

Environmental rules require diesel fuel to contain 15 parts per million or less of sulfur, and that's easier to meet with the light, sweet crude, which contains less sulfur. The government could relax sulfur standards temporarily; that, too, could lower prices.

Q: Could Bush suspend any other rules to ease prices?

A: Recent congressional mandates for ethanol to be blended into gasoline effectively replaces about 4 million gallons of gasoline production, Verleger said. That reduces the amount of hydrogen - a byproduct in refining - available for making low-sulfur diesel, which makes diesel more expensive. Temporarily relaxing ethanol requirements could help bring down diesel fuel costs.

Q: Bush said that another reason for high prices is the lack of refining capacity. Is this true?

A: He's correct that no new U.S. refineries have been built in 30 years. But refiners have significantly expanded U.S. facilities, and new refineries are sprouting up all over the world, especially in China, India and the Middle East.

The net result is that the U.S. is increasingly an importer of finished gasoline, along with crude oil for refining. Global refining capacity is clearly on the rise.

Q: Bush repeated his call Tuesday that new U.S refineries could be built on military bases. Why hasn't this happened?

A: Most military bases are far from the source of oil production in the Gulf of Mexico and the pipeline infrastructure that leads from there. It makes a nice sound bite but isn't a real-world solution.

"What he said today was the equivalent of, 'You are doing a great job, Brownie,' said Verleger, referring to Bush's infamous support of his embattled emergency management chief after Hurricane Katrina.

Q: Presidential candidates John McCain and Hillary Clinton have suggested temporarily waiving the 18.4-cents-per-gallon federal fuel tax. Would this help motorists?

A: Bush said he'd "take a look" at the idea. It might give a little relief to consumers, but would carry some big costs. It would presumably add to deficit spending. It would reduce funds for the Highway Trust Fund, which pays for infrastructure repair. And to the degree it drives gasoline prices down, Americans would drive more, which would reduce supplies and push up prices, said Len Burman, director of the Tax Policy Center, which is run jointly by the liberal Brookings Institution and centrist Urban Institute.

Verleger's congressional testimony:

https://www.petersoninstitute.org/publications/papers/verleger1207.pdf

PeriodThree
04-30-2008, 10:01 PM
Another view is _should_ anything be done about skyrocketing oil prices?

It seems to me like high oil prices are a good thing for the our nation and for the world as a whole.

Zeno Swijtink
05-01-2008, 07:53 AM
Another view is _should_ anything be done about skyrocketing oil prices?

It seems to me like high oil prices are a good thing for the our nation and for the world as a whole.

The high prices are the prices at which the market clears, it does not necessarily involve a greenhouse gas reduction over a hypothetical situation with lower prices.

To the extent that these high prices stimulate investment in renewables that is a good thing to me, but for now the largest impact of high prices is economic disaster in poor countries, including food scarcities and higher prices, and the turning of these countries to even more polluting fuels, and an enormous transfer of wealth in the world to oil producing countries.

As Klare writes: "The transfer of wealth alone is already mind-boggling. The oil-exporting countries collected an estimated $970 billion from the importing countries in 2006, and the take for 2007, when finally calculated, is expected to be far higher. A substantial fraction of these dollars, yen, and euros have been deposited in "sovereign-wealth funds" (SWFs), giant investment accounts owned by the oil states and deployed for the acquisition of valuable assets around the world. In recent months, the Persian Gulf SWFs have been taking advantage of the financial crisis in the United States to purchase large stakes in strategic sectors of its economy. In November 2007, for example, the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority (ADIA) acquired a $7.5 billion stake in Citigroup, America's largest bank holding company; in January, Citigroup sold an even larger share, worth $12.5 billion, to the Kuwait Investment Authority (KIA) and several other Middle Eastern investors, including Prince Walid bin Talal of Saudi Arabia. The managers of ADIA and KIA insist that they do not intend to use their newly-acquired stakes in Citigroup and other U.S. banks and corporations to influence U.S. economic or foreign policy, but it is hard to imagine that a financial shift of this magnitude, which can only gain momentum in the decades ahead, will not translate into some form of political leverage."

See Michael Klare's essay at https://www.tomdispatch.com/post/174919

shellebelle
05-01-2008, 01:10 PM
Last night as I watched Rich write this and over a long conversation it lead to I was sure I didn't agree.

Today though I read this article from my home town

https://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/30/immigrant.worker/index.html

And suddenly gas prices skyrocketing seems to be the answer to many things including potentially illegal immigration.

So as much as my heart cries "Granny Smith need her oil for her stove! This isn't fair!" another side says wait a second if things are bad here how many people will return to their native countries since America isn't "The Land of Opportunity" it's been made out to be.


Another view is _should_ anything be done about skyrocketing oil prices?

It seems to me like high oil prices are a good thing for the our nation and for the world as a whole.