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Zeno Swijtink
02-28-2008, 06:51 AM
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/health-news/antidepressant-drugs-udontu-work-ndash-official-study-787264.html

Antidepressant drugs don't work – official study

By Jeremy Laurance, Health Editor
Tuesday, 26 February 2008

They are among the biggest-selling drugs of all time, the "happiness pills" that supposedly lift the moods of those who suffer depression and are taken by millions of people in the UK every year.

But one of the largest studies of modern antidepressant drugs has found that they have no clinically significant effect. In other words, they don't work.

The finding will send shock waves through the medical profession and patients and raises serious questions about the regulation of the multinational pharmaceutical industry, which was accused yesterday of withholding data on the drugs.

It also came as Alan Johnson, the Health Secretary, announced that 3,600 therapists are to be trained during the next three years to provide nationwide access through the GP service to "talking treatments" for depression, instead of drugs, in a £170m scheme. The popularity of the new generation of antidepressants, which include the best known brands Prozac and Seroxat, soared after they were launched in the late 1980s, heavily promoted by drug companies as safer and leading to fewer side-effects than the older tricyclic antidepressants.

The publication in 1994 of Listening to Prozac by Peter Kramer, in which he suggested anyone with too little "joy juice" might give themselves a dose of the "mood brightener" Prozac , lifted sales into the stratosphere.

In the UK, an estimated 3.5 million people take the drugs, collectively known as selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs), in any one year and 29 million prescriptions were issued in 2004. Prozac, the best known of the SSRIs made by Eli Lilly, was the world's fastest-selling drug until it was overtaken by Viagra.

In the study, researchers conducted a meta-analysis of all 47 clinical trials, published and unpublished, submitted to the Food and Drug Administration in the US, made in support of licensing applications for six of the best known antidepressant drugs, including Prozac, Seroxat – which is made by GlaxoSmithKline – and Efexor made by Wyeth. The results showed the drugs were effective only in a very small group of the most extremely depressed.

Two drugs were excluded from the study because of incomplete data. A third drug, chemical name nafazodone, has been withdrawn from the market because of side-effects.

Professor Irving Kirsch of the University of Hull, who led the study published in the online journal Public Library of Science (PLoS) Medicine , said the data submitted to the FDA would also have been submitted to the licensing authorities in Britain and Europe. It showed the drugs produced a "very small" improvement compared with placebo of two points on the 51-point Hamilton depression scale.

That was sufficient to grant the drugs a licence but did not meet the minimum three-point difference required by the National Institute for Clinical Excellence (Nice) to establish "clinical" significance. Yet Nice approved the drugs for use on the NHS in the UK because it only had access to the published trials, which showed a larger effect.

Professor Kirsch said: "Given these results, there seems to be little reason to prescribe antidepressant medication to any but the most severely depressed patients, unless alternative treatments have failed to provide a benefit. This study raises serious issues that need to be addressed surrounding drug licensing and how drug trial data is reported."

Five years ago, there were allegations that antidepressant drugs were addictive and could trigger suicides. All but Prozac were banned for children, although a major investigation on the safety of medicines cleared them of causing suicide in adults.

Alternative treatments for depression, such as counselling or physical exercise , should be tried first, Professor Kirsch said. The pharmaceutical companies had withheld data that was available to the licensing authorities so that doctors and patients did not understand the true efficacy, or lack of it, of the drugs.

"This has been the frustration. It has made it very difficult to answer the question of whether the drugs work. The pharmaceutical companies should be obliged when they get a drug licensed to make all the data available to the public. When you analyse all the trials of these SSRIs, both published and unpublished, it leads you to more sober conclusions," he said.

Tim Kendall, deputy director of the Royal College of Psychiatrists' research unit, said the findings, if proved true, would not be surprising. As head of the National Collaborating Centre for Nice guidelines on mental health, he said it had proved impossible to get access to unpublished trials in the past.

"The companies have this data but they will not release it. When we were drawing up the guidelines on prescribing antidepressants to children [in 2004] we wrote to all the companies asking for it but they said no. The Government pledged in its manifesto to compel the drug companies to give access to their data but that commitment has not been met."

The new finding would make doctors "much more cautious about prescribing the drugs," Mr Kendall added.

GlaxoSmithKline, makers of Seroxat, said the authors of the study had "failed to acknowledge" the very positive benefits of SSRIs and their conclusions were "at odds with the very positive benefits seen in actual clinical practice." A spokesperson added: "This one study should not be used to cause unnecessary alarm for patients.

Lilly said in a statement: "Extensive scientific and medical experience has demonstrated that fluoxetine [Prozac] is an effective antidepressant.

Wyeth said: "We recognise the need for both pharmacological and non-pharmacological treatments for depression."

On the new training for therapists, Mr Johnson said the programme signalled a decisive shift away from drugs in favour of non-drug treatments for depression. "We are not taking the decision away from clinicians," he said.

"For many, medication is successful. But talking therapies can have dramatic effects. We have put a lot of emphasis on medication in the past and it is about time we redressed the balance and put more emphasis on talking treatments."

The treatments that do work

* Exercise: Helps some people with depression. Douglas Adams, author of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, said running helped him cope with depression.

* Friends: Talking through your feelings can help in mild depression with a friend or relative or in a self-help group.

* Cognitive behavioural therapy: Teaches you to challenge negative thoughts and feelings of hopelessness.

* Interpersonal therapy: Focuses on relationships and problems such as difficulties with communication.

* Counselling: Helps you think about the problems in your life and find new ways of dealing with them.

* Antidepressants: Increasingly seen as a second-line treatment, if exercise or talking treatments do not work.

Braggi
02-28-2008, 10:34 AM
Except that they do work. The headline is a lie.

They work for the most severely depressed people and they have indeed saved thousands of lives that otherwise would have ended in suicide and possibly murder.

Why do people write tripe like this? Oh, sensationalism sells.

Antidepressants are ridiculously over-prescribed. It's absurd that school teachers, psychologists and general practice doctors are colluding to put millions of school kids on these and stimulants.

Antidepressants should be prescribed by psychiatrists or at least by general practice doctors under the direction of psychiatrists.

How about some article headlines that tell the truth instead of histrionic crap like this one?

Read the article and understand the bottom line: antidepressants are over-prescribed. Nobody needed to do a study to know that.

This is not news.

-Jeff

boomerfashion
02-29-2008, 07:29 AM
Well said, Jeff. I guess some people are weary of the Democratic primary and needed something else to huff and puff about. I personally know quite a few people who have had their depression with controlled supervised use of SSRI's. The difference is night and day.

Thanks for the posting.


Except that they do work. The headline is a lie.

They work for the most severely depressed people and they have indeed saved thousands of lives that otherwise would have ended in suicide and possibly murder.

Why do people write tripe like this? Oh, sensationalism sells.

Antidepressants are ridiculously over-prescribed. It's absurd that school teachers, psychologists and general practice doctors are colluding to put millions of school kids on these and stimulants.

Antidepressants should be prescribed by psychiatrists or at least by general practice doctors under the direction of psychiatrists.

How about some article headlines that tell the truth instead of histrionic crap like this one?

Read the article and understand the bottom line: antidepressants are over-prescribed. Nobody needed to do a study to know that.

This is not news.

-Jeff

shellebelle
02-29-2008, 07:53 AM
I agree with ModaMarin and Jeff.

When my friend went onto medications for his ADD and depression I was trepadacious but . . . His life went from very reclusive to social in the course of like 3 days. We were able to start a business and move it to sucess very quickly. He now is able to have visitation with his daughter and exwife without fear of his own actions. It was amzing and made me a true believer. These were not things he could do without that medical intervention.




Except that they do work. The headline is a lie.

They work for the most severely depressed people and they have indeed saved thousands of lives that otherwise would have ended in suicide and possibly murder.



Antidepressants should be prescribed by psychiatrists or at least by general practice doctors under the direction of psychiatrists.



-Jeff

Vet-To-Pet
02-29-2008, 01:21 PM
I agree with Jeff. There's been a great deal of improvement in creating new types of anti-depressant (or anti-anxiety) medications over the past decade or more. I can't imagine an ethical MD or psychiatrist/MD prescribing these medications without the understanding that the patient is also undergoing therapy/couseling to deal with the underlying issues that contribute to the depression. There are several ways to help improve one's quality of life when one suffers from depression, such as exercise, talking to friends or a counselor, eating or avoiding certain foods (AND alcohol/recreational drugs), doing things that distract one from sitting alone & "thinking" about the problems instead of the positives, etc. but having the medication(s) in one's system definitely improves the likelihood that those other activities will help.

The brain is such an "uncharted territory" in so many areas. These drugs weren't available when the previous generation had to deal with depression (which wasn't even recognized as a clinical condition), and what did those people do? They drank a lot of alcohol and/or landed in jail or other "institutions". If anyone doubts the beneficial effects of anti-depressants, please give me a call or e-mail me privately & I'll tell you my story. Trust me, they work when they're used properly, with supervision, with counseling/therpay, and with the patient's attempts to understand why & when their depressive episodes are triggered. Gosh, there's so much to explain, so much I've learned over the past 15 or so years, that anyone who's only slightly aware of anti-depressants would have to spend about half a day talking to me, and I'm not even an MD or therapist---I've just learned a LOT about the brain, hormones, neurotransmitters, cortisol, stress, etc, that I am one grateful camper when it comes to "better living through chemicals".
Paula/vettopet:woohoo:



Except that they do work. The headline is a lie.



They work for the most severely depressed people and they have indeed saved thousands of lives that otherwise would have ended in suicide and possibly murder.

Why do people write tripe like this? Oh, sensationalism sells.

Antidepressants are ridiculously over-prescribed. It's absurd that school teachers, psychologists and general practice doctors are colluding to put millions of school kids on these and stimulants.

Antidepressants should be prescribed by psychiatrists or at least by general practice doctors under the direction of psychiatrists.

How about some article headlines that tell the truth instead of histrionic crap like this one?

Read the article and understand the bottom line: antidepressants are over-prescribed. Nobody needed to do a study to know that.

This is not news.

-Jeff