sharingwisdom
12-14-2007, 10:22 PM
...Minorities, Woman and Inmates (1845 - 2007)
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sharingwisdom
12-16-2007, 06:07 PM
To make things simple, I used the article's title and link in posting. In the article, it discusses soldiers and veterns as well.
(e.g. 1911-146 hospital patients<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
1915-12 <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:State><st1:place>Mississippi</st1:place></st1:State> inmates<o:p></o:p>
1944-Chemical Warfare Service begins mustard gas and lewisite experiments on 4,000 members of the <st1:country-region><st1:place>U.S.</st1:place></st1:country-region> military etc)
I, in know way, wanted to discount what has been done to men in general. I am more than familar.
It may come as a great shock, but even evil white men were subjected to many of the experiments listed in your link, as well as tens of thousands of them currently in the military and suffering from gulf war syndrome among other horrors.
(e.g. 1911-146 hospital patients<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
1915-12 <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:State><st1:place>Mississippi</st1:place></st1:State> inmates<o:p></o:p>
1944-Chemical Warfare Service begins mustard gas and lewisite experiments on 4,000 members of the <st1:country-region><st1:place>U.S.</st1:place></st1:country-region> military etc)
I, in know way, wanted to discount what has been done to men in general. I am more than familar.
It may come as a great shock, but even evil white men were subjected to many of the experiments listed in your link, as well as tens of thousands of them currently in the military and suffering from gulf war syndrome among other horrors.
sharingwisdom
12-17-2007, 11:50 AM
Because is was an easy copy and paste from the original article.
Not only soldiers and veterans, but men of all walks of life were victims, just like every other demographic group, which makes me wonder why they chose such a title.
Not only soldiers and veterans, but men of all walks of life were victims, just like every other demographic group, which makes me wonder why they chose such a title.
Braggi
12-17-2007, 03:44 PM
Yup. I've read about some of these before and I'm not surprised to read them now. Some of these are even true. Some are truly dastardly deeds perpetrated on the innocent by thoughtless, selfish people. Sad and disgusting. Other reports here are merely distortions of real development stories. OK. So what?
Because automobiles and trucks have been used to carry soldiers to war and criminals to the scenes of crimes should we not ever use these modes of transportation? After all, a lot of the improvements in cars and trucks were developed on behalf of military branches. A lot of people suffered as a result.
Perhaps everyone who distrusts vaccinations should avoid all products from "Big Pharma." That includes most vitamins and supplements, BTW, since nearly all were discovered, developed and brought to market by companies owned by that bunch of bad guys. No over the counter drugs or medical supplies for these purists. They'll get along on raw foods.
Perhaps they should refuse treatment if they get injured or sick. Pass on those "poisonous" antibiotics when you get a bad infection. They're harmful or at best suspicious, aren't they? Stay away from those toxic substances they use in cast making when you break a leg. Maybe you can be "alternatively" healed. Now there's a branch of healing where there has never been an abuse. Surely you can trust your local "natural" healer. Stay away from pain medications. You'll do better without them. That which doesn't kill us makes us stronger, right?
Some will not be reached, that's clear.
-Jeff
Because automobiles and trucks have been used to carry soldiers to war and criminals to the scenes of crimes should we not ever use these modes of transportation? After all, a lot of the improvements in cars and trucks were developed on behalf of military branches. A lot of people suffered as a result.
Perhaps everyone who distrusts vaccinations should avoid all products from "Big Pharma." That includes most vitamins and supplements, BTW, since nearly all were discovered, developed and brought to market by companies owned by that bunch of bad guys. No over the counter drugs or medical supplies for these purists. They'll get along on raw foods.
Perhaps they should refuse treatment if they get injured or sick. Pass on those "poisonous" antibiotics when you get a bad infection. They're harmful or at best suspicious, aren't they? Stay away from those toxic substances they use in cast making when you break a leg. Maybe you can be "alternatively" healed. Now there's a branch of healing where there has never been an abuse. Surely you can trust your local "natural" healer. Stay away from pain medications. You'll do better without them. That which doesn't kill us makes us stronger, right?
Some will not be reached, that's clear.
-Jeff
sharingwisdom
12-18-2007, 12:50 PM
You missed the point. Many of our citizens have been experimented on w/o consent. These stories are not distortions. They are just a few samples. Do your own research and keep an open mind. What you have stated sounds like how we reaped the rewards of Nazi experimentation. We even brought the Nazis to this country under Project Paperclip to continue these experiments. I have professionally worked with people who have had such Nazi atrocities happened to them in this country and even worse. I truly am glad that these things haven't happened to you! But your unawareness and twists on the information will not stop our rights from being taken away. We are in an age where such covert issues are now surfacing and the next few years will really be bringing this information to the forefront. And I'm quite aware of how strong the backlash or disinformation machines thinks they are. There are those of us who will continue to share the Truth.
Yup. I've read about some of these before and I'm not surprised to read them now. Some of these are even true. Some are truly dastardly deeds perpetrated on the innocent by thoughtless, selfish people. Sad and disgusting. Other reports here are merely distortions of real development stories. OK. So what?
Because automobiles and trucks have been used to carry soldiers to war and criminals to the scenes of crimes should we not ever use these modes of transportation? After all, a lot of the improvements in cars and trucks were developed on behalf of military branches. A lot of people suffered as a result.
Perhaps everyone who distrusts vaccinations should avoid all products from "Big Pharma." That includes most vitamins and supplements, BTW, since nearly all were discovered, developed and brought to market by companies owned by that bunch of bad guys. No over the counter drugs or medical supplies for these purists. They'll get along on raw foods.
Perhaps they should refuse treatment if they get injured or sick. Pass on those "poisonous" antibiotics when you get a bad infection. They're harmful or at best suspicious, aren't they? Stay away from those toxic substances they use in cast making when you break a leg. Maybe you can be "alternatively" healed. Now there's a branch of healing where there has never been an abuse. Surely you can trust your local "natural" healer. Stay away from pain medications. You'll do better without them. That which doesn't kill us makes us stronger, right?
Some will not be reached, that's clear.
-Jeff
Yup. I've read about some of these before and I'm not surprised to read them now. Some of these are even true. Some are truly dastardly deeds perpetrated on the innocent by thoughtless, selfish people. Sad and disgusting. Other reports here are merely distortions of real development stories. OK. So what?
Because automobiles and trucks have been used to carry soldiers to war and criminals to the scenes of crimes should we not ever use these modes of transportation? After all, a lot of the improvements in cars and trucks were developed on behalf of military branches. A lot of people suffered as a result.
Perhaps everyone who distrusts vaccinations should avoid all products from "Big Pharma." That includes most vitamins and supplements, BTW, since nearly all were discovered, developed and brought to market by companies owned by that bunch of bad guys. No over the counter drugs or medical supplies for these purists. They'll get along on raw foods.
Perhaps they should refuse treatment if they get injured or sick. Pass on those "poisonous" antibiotics when you get a bad infection. They're harmful or at best suspicious, aren't they? Stay away from those toxic substances they use in cast making when you break a leg. Maybe you can be "alternatively" healed. Now there's a branch of healing where there has never been an abuse. Surely you can trust your local "natural" healer. Stay away from pain medications. You'll do better without them. That which doesn't kill us makes us stronger, right?
Some will not be reached, that's clear.
-Jeff
Braggi
12-18-2007, 01:42 PM
You missed the point. ... There are those of us who will continue to share the Truth.
Actually, I looked for the point in your post. I couldn't find it.
I'll restate mine: so what?
What do we do now? How should we respond?
If your bottom line is that misbehaviors in medical practice, largely by the US government and much of that by covert "spy" agencies, means we should never use medical interventions, by all means, avoid medical treatments. Just don't suggest that I should. I'm a little smarter than that.
But I'm jumping to conclusions here because I haven't seen or I haven't understood your conclusion.
BTW, your source is suspect because of the utterly untrue statements included in your list.
Compare your source:
Maryland's governor and public health officials, fed up with the unwillingness of over 2,000 parents to have their children vaccinated, invoke gunpoint medicine yet again by threatening the parents with arrest and up to 30 days of imprisonment if they don't submit their children to state-mandated vaccinations. The children and parents are later rounded up at a county courthouse, guarded by attack dogs and security personnel, while a district Judge oversees the mass injection of schoolchildren with vaccines that contain toxic mercury.
With a reputable source:
https://www.csmonitor.com/2007/1119/p02s04-ussc.html?page=1
Nobody was rounded up at gunpoint. The people showed up voluntarily and, unless flu shots were included in the list, none of the injections included any mercury. The bias in your source is clear as is your source's ignorance.
In case you actually want to learn about thimerosal, I'll post a couple of paragraphs from the FDA's site:
"Available data has been reviewed in several public forums including the Workshop on Thimerosal, held in Bethesda in August 1999 and sponsored by the National Vaccine Advisory Committee, two meetings of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices of the CDC, held in October 1999 and June 2000, and by the Institute of Medicine's Immunization Safety Review Committee in July 2001 and February 2004. Data reviewed did not demonstrate convincing evidence of toxicity from doses of thimerosal used in vaccines. In case reports of accidental high-dose exposures in humans to thimerosal or ethyl mercury toxicity was demonstrated only at exposures that were 100 or 1000 times that found in vaccines.
<snip>[snip]
FDA is continuing its efforts toward reducing or removing thimerosal from all existing vaccines. Much progress has been made to date. FDA has been actively working with manufacturers, particularly those that manufacture childhood vaccines, to reach the goal of eliminating thimerosal from vaccines, and has been collaborating with other PHS agencies to further evaluate the potential health effects of thimerosal. Since 2001, all vaccines recommended for children 6 years of age and younger have contained either no thimerosal or only trace amounts, with the exception of inactivated influenza vaccines, which are marketed in both the preservative-free and thimerosal-preservative-containing formulations. Thimerosal-preservative free influenza vaccine licensed for use in children six to 59 months of age is available in limited supply. Nevertheless, FDA is in discussions with manufacturers of influenza vaccine regarding their capacity to increase the supply of vaccine without thimerosal as a preservative. Additionally, new pediatric vaccines that have received licensure do not contain thimerosal."
These paragraphs were taken from this page: https://www.fda.gov/cber/vaccine/thimfaq.htm#q4
-Jeff</snip>
Actually, I looked for the point in your post. I couldn't find it.
I'll restate mine: so what?
What do we do now? How should we respond?
If your bottom line is that misbehaviors in medical practice, largely by the US government and much of that by covert "spy" agencies, means we should never use medical interventions, by all means, avoid medical treatments. Just don't suggest that I should. I'm a little smarter than that.
But I'm jumping to conclusions here because I haven't seen or I haven't understood your conclusion.
BTW, your source is suspect because of the utterly untrue statements included in your list.
Compare your source:
Maryland's governor and public health officials, fed up with the unwillingness of over 2,000 parents to have their children vaccinated, invoke gunpoint medicine yet again by threatening the parents with arrest and up to 30 days of imprisonment if they don't submit their children to state-mandated vaccinations. The children and parents are later rounded up at a county courthouse, guarded by attack dogs and security personnel, while a district Judge oversees the mass injection of schoolchildren with vaccines that contain toxic mercury.
With a reputable source:
https://www.csmonitor.com/2007/1119/p02s04-ussc.html?page=1
Nobody was rounded up at gunpoint. The people showed up voluntarily and, unless flu shots were included in the list, none of the injections included any mercury. The bias in your source is clear as is your source's ignorance.
In case you actually want to learn about thimerosal, I'll post a couple of paragraphs from the FDA's site:
"Available data has been reviewed in several public forums including the Workshop on Thimerosal, held in Bethesda in August 1999 and sponsored by the National Vaccine Advisory Committee, two meetings of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices of the CDC, held in October 1999 and June 2000, and by the Institute of Medicine's Immunization Safety Review Committee in July 2001 and February 2004. Data reviewed did not demonstrate convincing evidence of toxicity from doses of thimerosal used in vaccines. In case reports of accidental high-dose exposures in humans to thimerosal or ethyl mercury toxicity was demonstrated only at exposures that were 100 or 1000 times that found in vaccines.
<snip>[snip]
FDA is continuing its efforts toward reducing or removing thimerosal from all existing vaccines. Much progress has been made to date. FDA has been actively working with manufacturers, particularly those that manufacture childhood vaccines, to reach the goal of eliminating thimerosal from vaccines, and has been collaborating with other PHS agencies to further evaluate the potential health effects of thimerosal. Since 2001, all vaccines recommended for children 6 years of age and younger have contained either no thimerosal or only trace amounts, with the exception of inactivated influenza vaccines, which are marketed in both the preservative-free and thimerosal-preservative-containing formulations. Thimerosal-preservative free influenza vaccine licensed for use in children six to 59 months of age is available in limited supply. Nevertheless, FDA is in discussions with manufacturers of influenza vaccine regarding their capacity to increase the supply of vaccine without thimerosal as a preservative. Additionally, new pediatric vaccines that have received licensure do not contain thimerosal."
These paragraphs were taken from this page: https://www.fda.gov/cber/vaccine/thimfaq.htm#q4
-Jeff</snip>
sharingwisdom
12-19-2007, 03:33 PM
I'm not interested in responding any longer.I didn't post for a debate. The point was about education of the public, to allow those who had no idea what's going on to become aware that gov't agencies don't necessarily have our best interests at heart, that there is a deeper agenda that's being going on for a long time. I've been proactive by counseling those that have had such experiments done to them. I've lectured, written a book and write to my congress people. I can really see that nothing I'd say would be of interest to you anyways except to be controversial. People are free to do their own research and connect with what resonates as Truth for them. If the FDA is your main Source, with all that they have covered up through the years, and who has paid them off and how their members get to decide on our lives, then you get to be with your decisions and I'll be with mine. The end.
Actually, I looked for the point in your post. I couldn't find it.
I'll restate mine: so what?
What do we do now? How should we respond?
If your bottom line is that misbehaviors in medical practice, largely by the US government and much of that by covert "spy" agencies, means we should never use medical interventions, by all means, avoid medical treatments. Just don't suggest that I should. I'm a little smarter than that.
But I'm jumping to conclusions here because I haven't seen or I haven't understood your conclusion.
BTW, your source is suspect because of the utterly untrue statements included in your list.
Compare your source:
Maryland's governor and public health officials, fed up with the unwillingness of over 2,000 parents to have their children vaccinated, invoke gunpoint medicine yet again by threatening the parents with arrest and up to 30 days of imprisonment if they don't submit their children to state-mandated vaccinations. The children and parents are later rounded up at a county courthouse, guarded by attack dogs and security personnel, while a district Judge oversees the mass injection of schoolchildren with vaccines that contain toxic mercury.
With a reputable source:
https://www.csmonitor.com/2007/1119/p02s04-ussc.html?page=1
Nobody was rounded up at gunpoint. The people showed up voluntarily and, unless flu shots were included in the list, none of the injections included any mercury. The bias in your source is clear as is your source's ignorance.
In case you actually want to learn about thimerosal, I'll post a couple of paragraphs from the FDA's site:
"Available data has been reviewed in several public forums including the Workshop on Thimerosal, held in Bethesda in August 1999 and sponsored by the National Vaccine Advisory Committee, two meetings of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices of the CDC, held in October 1999 and June 2000, and by the Institute of Medicine's Immunization Safety Review Committee in July 2001 and February 2004. Data reviewed did not demonstrate convincing evidence of toxicity from doses of thimerosal used in vaccines. In case reports of accidental high-dose exposures in humans to thimerosal or ethyl mercury toxicity was demonstrated only at exposures that were 100 or 1000 times that found in vaccines.
<SNIP>[snip]
FDA is continuing its efforts toward reducing or removing thimerosal from all existing vaccines. Much progress has been made to date. FDA has been actively working with manufacturers, particularly those that manufacture childhood vaccines, to reach the goal of eliminating thimerosal from vaccines, and has been collaborating with other PHS agencies to further evaluate the potential health effects of thimerosal. Since 2001, all vaccines recommended for children 6 years of age and younger have contained either no thimerosal or only trace amounts, with the exception of inactivated influenza vaccines, which are marketed in both the preservative-free and thimerosal-preservative-containing formulations. Thimerosal-preservative free influenza vaccine licensed for use in children six to 59 months of age is available in limited supply. Nevertheless, FDA is in discussions with manufacturers of influenza vaccine regarding their capacity to increase the supply of vaccine without thimerosal as a preservative. Additionally, new pediatric vaccines that have received licensure do not contain thimerosal."
These paragraphs were taken from this page: https://www.fda.gov/cber/vaccine/thimfaq.htm#q4
-Jeff</SNIP>
Actually, I looked for the point in your post. I couldn't find it.
I'll restate mine: so what?
What do we do now? How should we respond?
If your bottom line is that misbehaviors in medical practice, largely by the US government and much of that by covert "spy" agencies, means we should never use medical interventions, by all means, avoid medical treatments. Just don't suggest that I should. I'm a little smarter than that.
But I'm jumping to conclusions here because I haven't seen or I haven't understood your conclusion.
BTW, your source is suspect because of the utterly untrue statements included in your list.
Compare your source:
Maryland's governor and public health officials, fed up with the unwillingness of over 2,000 parents to have their children vaccinated, invoke gunpoint medicine yet again by threatening the parents with arrest and up to 30 days of imprisonment if they don't submit their children to state-mandated vaccinations. The children and parents are later rounded up at a county courthouse, guarded by attack dogs and security personnel, while a district Judge oversees the mass injection of schoolchildren with vaccines that contain toxic mercury.
With a reputable source:
https://www.csmonitor.com/2007/1119/p02s04-ussc.html?page=1
Nobody was rounded up at gunpoint. The people showed up voluntarily and, unless flu shots were included in the list, none of the injections included any mercury. The bias in your source is clear as is your source's ignorance.
In case you actually want to learn about thimerosal, I'll post a couple of paragraphs from the FDA's site:
"Available data has been reviewed in several public forums including the Workshop on Thimerosal, held in Bethesda in August 1999 and sponsored by the National Vaccine Advisory Committee, two meetings of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices of the CDC, held in October 1999 and June 2000, and by the Institute of Medicine's Immunization Safety Review Committee in July 2001 and February 2004. Data reviewed did not demonstrate convincing evidence of toxicity from doses of thimerosal used in vaccines. In case reports of accidental high-dose exposures in humans to thimerosal or ethyl mercury toxicity was demonstrated only at exposures that were 100 or 1000 times that found in vaccines.
<SNIP>[snip]
FDA is continuing its efforts toward reducing or removing thimerosal from all existing vaccines. Much progress has been made to date. FDA has been actively working with manufacturers, particularly those that manufacture childhood vaccines, to reach the goal of eliminating thimerosal from vaccines, and has been collaborating with other PHS agencies to further evaluate the potential health effects of thimerosal. Since 2001, all vaccines recommended for children 6 years of age and younger have contained either no thimerosal or only trace amounts, with the exception of inactivated influenza vaccines, which are marketed in both the preservative-free and thimerosal-preservative-containing formulations. Thimerosal-preservative free influenza vaccine licensed for use in children six to 59 months of age is available in limited supply. Nevertheless, FDA is in discussions with manufacturers of influenza vaccine regarding their capacity to increase the supply of vaccine without thimerosal as a preservative. Additionally, new pediatric vaccines that have received licensure do not contain thimerosal."
These paragraphs were taken from this page: https://www.fda.gov/cber/vaccine/thimfaq.htm#q4
-Jeff</SNIP>
Zeno Swijtink
12-19-2007, 03:57 PM
I'm not interested in responding any longer.I didn't post for a debate. The point was about education of the public, to allow those who had no idea what's going on to become aware that gov't agencies don't necessarily have our best interests at heart, that there is a deeper agenda that's being going on for a long time. I've been proactive by counseling those that have had such experiments done to them. I've lectured, written a book and write to my congress people. I can really see that nothing I'd say would be of interest to you anyways except to be controversial. People are free to do their own research and connect with what resonates as Truth for them. If the FDA is your main Source, with all that they have covered up through the years, and who has paid them off and how their members get to decide on our lives, then you get to be with your decisions and I'll be with mine. The end.
You may not have published for debate, but there is a group of articulate and probing people on this list who will do reality checks on what is posted. It's part of the educational process! Discussion cannot be avoided, except by walking away. :(:
You may not have published for debate, but there is a group of articulate and probing people on this list who will do reality checks on what is posted. It's part of the educational process! Discussion cannot be avoided, except by walking away. :(:
Braggi
12-20-2007, 09:32 AM
I'm not interested in responding any longer.I didn't post for a debate. The point was about education of the public, to allow those who had no idea what's going on to become aware that gov't agencies don't necessarily have our best interests at heart, that there is a deeper agenda that's being going on for a long time. ...
Sharingwisdom, First of all, I wish to state that I agree with you on most of your ethics in health care opinions. You don't even have to say directly what they are because I can tell from your posts that you are a caring, intelligent person who is actively working to improve the living conditions of people. You believe in full disclosure on all issues relating to health care and medical treatment as well as an educated consumer base. Right on. I'm with you.
Debate comes into the issue when untruths that can be harmful come into the equation. I've stated as fact things which later turned out to be wrong. I'm actually pretty good a learning from new sources and changing my mind when someone has pointed out my errors. Sadly, your source is unlikely to update and repair the errors in the list you posted because, although unstated, the inflammatory tone suggests a rather rigid mindset.
It concerns me a lot when someone goes through the history of a noble profession, medicine for instance, picks out some really disgusting examples of abuse, and then paints the entire industry with a broad and entirely negative brush. What conclusions are the reader to draw and more importantly, how will those conclusions affect the behavior of the reader and the reader's family?
It gets even more difficult for me when a number of abuses are stated as fact, even when some of them are clearly wrong, and then no conclusion is drawn and no advice is given. Is the reader to understand that every act of the industry of modern medicine is suspect and to be avoided? You still haven't clarified your point. I don't know what your take home message is.
Let's use education as an analogy. I could study the literature and find dozens if not hundreds of examples of teachers and professors abusing their students. I could list them, starting in 1845, and it would be a daunting list just to read, let alone to take in emotionally, since the sheer number of abuses is staggering. Now, if I just posted the list and hinted that there is a pattern here and clearly there is a "deeper agenda" without stating what the deeper agenda is, what is the reader supposed to do with my statement? Imagine a 20 year old mother of an infant scared to death that putting her child in school will surely expose it to the deeper agenda and the clear pattern of abuse. Will that mother choose not to educate her child in the mistaken notion that school will cause more harm than good?
Do you see how your post could be harmful if not questioned or at least clarified? Please note that I'm not debating anything you've said because you've still not made any points or conclusions that I don't agree with.
Please look over that list again that you posted and look for the light between the lines. Note that almost all of the abuses occurred either far into the past, by the military (or CIA) or both. Look at all the government disclosures and apologies and agreements to do better in the future. Those are in there too. That list could read as the healing of the ethics of the industry if you looked for that. Even the recent entries can be viewed as light being shone on the dark corners of the industry, an industry trying to do better.
Now imagine a list of all the medical breakthroughs starting in 1845. Imagine a list of all the people healed and all the lives saved. Imagine the stories of all the heroic people and deeds in war and peace that have furthered the cause of good health and healing from injury and disease. I'm not sure you have enough memory in your computer to hold that list. I'm sure it would show a "deeper agenda" of dedicated professionals doing the very best they can to help people in the most open, ethical ways possible.
I do hope you won't hold back from posting because someone might have additional information to add to what you have posted so that the picture might be clarified. The "Truth" (with a capital "T") is a living, growing organism that never ends. Sometimes the Truth isn't completely understood and it's never completely stated. Wikipedia is a bold step in the direction of the Truth, but it's far from perfect and is only in its infancy.
If the Truth is what you seek, it's worth never giving up in your quest.
-Jeff
Sharingwisdom, First of all, I wish to state that I agree with you on most of your ethics in health care opinions. You don't even have to say directly what they are because I can tell from your posts that you are a caring, intelligent person who is actively working to improve the living conditions of people. You believe in full disclosure on all issues relating to health care and medical treatment as well as an educated consumer base. Right on. I'm with you.
Debate comes into the issue when untruths that can be harmful come into the equation. I've stated as fact things which later turned out to be wrong. I'm actually pretty good a learning from new sources and changing my mind when someone has pointed out my errors. Sadly, your source is unlikely to update and repair the errors in the list you posted because, although unstated, the inflammatory tone suggests a rather rigid mindset.
It concerns me a lot when someone goes through the history of a noble profession, medicine for instance, picks out some really disgusting examples of abuse, and then paints the entire industry with a broad and entirely negative brush. What conclusions are the reader to draw and more importantly, how will those conclusions affect the behavior of the reader and the reader's family?
It gets even more difficult for me when a number of abuses are stated as fact, even when some of them are clearly wrong, and then no conclusion is drawn and no advice is given. Is the reader to understand that every act of the industry of modern medicine is suspect and to be avoided? You still haven't clarified your point. I don't know what your take home message is.
Let's use education as an analogy. I could study the literature and find dozens if not hundreds of examples of teachers and professors abusing their students. I could list them, starting in 1845, and it would be a daunting list just to read, let alone to take in emotionally, since the sheer number of abuses is staggering. Now, if I just posted the list and hinted that there is a pattern here and clearly there is a "deeper agenda" without stating what the deeper agenda is, what is the reader supposed to do with my statement? Imagine a 20 year old mother of an infant scared to death that putting her child in school will surely expose it to the deeper agenda and the clear pattern of abuse. Will that mother choose not to educate her child in the mistaken notion that school will cause more harm than good?
Do you see how your post could be harmful if not questioned or at least clarified? Please note that I'm not debating anything you've said because you've still not made any points or conclusions that I don't agree with.
Please look over that list again that you posted and look for the light between the lines. Note that almost all of the abuses occurred either far into the past, by the military (or CIA) or both. Look at all the government disclosures and apologies and agreements to do better in the future. Those are in there too. That list could read as the healing of the ethics of the industry if you looked for that. Even the recent entries can be viewed as light being shone on the dark corners of the industry, an industry trying to do better.
Now imagine a list of all the medical breakthroughs starting in 1845. Imagine a list of all the people healed and all the lives saved. Imagine the stories of all the heroic people and deeds in war and peace that have furthered the cause of good health and healing from injury and disease. I'm not sure you have enough memory in your computer to hold that list. I'm sure it would show a "deeper agenda" of dedicated professionals doing the very best they can to help people in the most open, ethical ways possible.
I do hope you won't hold back from posting because someone might have additional information to add to what you have posted so that the picture might be clarified. The "Truth" (with a capital "T") is a living, growing organism that never ends. Sometimes the Truth isn't completely understood and it's never completely stated. Wikipedia is a bold step in the direction of the Truth, but it's far from perfect and is only in its infancy.
If the Truth is what you seek, it's worth never giving up in your quest.
-Jeff