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ThePhiant
10-27-2007, 09:53 PM
what makes you think the religion is the common thread in all of this?????
maybe they are acting this way because they are women???
maybe they act this way because you allow them?
maybe they act this way caus your passive-aggressive behavior is too subtle for them?
maybe you know something we don't know?
is this the whole story?


I have a question of those who practice Tibetan Buddhism; what does this religion teach about helping others? I have had the misfortune to have been employed by two women (who incidentally both practice Tibetan Buddhism) who are extremely insensitive and unhelpful. These two women don't know each other and I was employed by them at two entirely different times. The first woman was my manager and whenever I asked her a question about something that I knew she might help me with, she would say she didn't know and to try someone else. I found this very frustrating because I would go out of my way to help this woman whenever she asked me. Even if I did not know the answer to a particular question, I would make calls and send emails to my colleagues in order to find a solution.

The other woman employs me as a caregiver for her elderly mother. This woman routinely asks me to shell out cash to buy groceries for her mother's home, then always finds some excuse not to repay me on a timely basis or not to pay me in cash. Finally, I got fed up with it and told her I did not have the cash to buy groceries and her mother indeed needed food. This woman wrote me an eight paragraph email about how she was too busy to go and buy food for her mother and how if I "had a heart" I would go out and buy her mother the food she needed. I finally suggested that I get a note from her doctor and sign her mother up for Meals on Wheels so this did not become a problem. I got a terse reply that this was "not an option" for them because her mother found the food "inedible". I could not believe she could be that ungreatful. This woman writes in a very flowery way, but the underlying intent is passive-aggressive, to insult me, or snipe at me in some way. When I ask for time off to deal with personal business (and I give her plenty of notice) she writes nasty notes to me about what a hassle it is and how she is too busy to deal with this. At times I feel like reminding her that we all have to take care of our parents at some point in our lives and I'm sure that she will never do as much for her mother as her mother did for her in raising, nurturing and protecting her from harm when she was a child. I somehow feel that even this would not get through to her.

So tell me, is there something in this religion that teaches about helping others? Thanks

Dark Shadows
10-28-2007, 11:29 AM
You are missing the point of my post entirely. I simply want to understand the teachings of this religion so that I can relate better to these women. I am not attacking the religion or its followers


what makes you think the religion is the common thread in all of this?????
maybe they are acting this way because they are women???
maybe they act this way because you allow them?
maybe they act this way caus your passive-aggressive behavior is too subtle for them?
maybe you know something we don't know?
is this the whole story?

ThePhiant
10-28-2007, 12:13 PM
[quote=Dark Shadows;40764]You are missing the point of my post entirely.
I don't think so

I simply want to understand the teachings of this religion so that I can relate better to these women.this sentence is very clear, but the following is what you posted

I have a question of those who practice Tibetan Buddhism; what does this religion teach about helping others? I have had the misfortune to have been employed by two women (who incidentally both practice Tibetan Buddhism) who are extremely insensitive and unhelpful.

Barry
10-28-2007, 04:24 PM
maybe they act this way because you allow them?
maybe they act this way caus your passive-aggressive behavior is too subtle for them?I find this attacking and disrepectful. I have moved these posts to the Censored category. I'm sorry Dark Shadows that you were treated like this. I suggest you don't reply to ThePhiant. I have left your original post in the WaccoTalk category where hopefully you will receive more respectful and constructive replies.

ThePhiant
10-28-2007, 04:56 PM
if we don't have to take responsibility for our part in interactions, we can always blame things on the other person.
can we improve ourselves too?


I find this attacking and disrepectful. I have moved these posts to the Censored category. I'm sorry Dark Shadows that you were treated like this. I suggest you don't reply to ThePhiant. I have left your original post in the WaccoTalk category where hopefully you will receive more respectful and constructive replies.

Barry
10-28-2007, 05:09 PM
if we don't have to take responsibility for our part in interactions, we can always blame things on the other person.
can we improve ourselves too?I would appreciate it if you took responsibility for your communication style and treated people with more respect.

ThePhiant
10-29-2007, 07:59 AM
well, well, Barry
I have no problem with owning my posts.I just wish others would do the same!
I have a highly sensitive BS detector and maybe when you are in a more relaxed mood you can see that Dark Shadows is not asking a clarification about Tibetan Religion as she claims, but is on a mission to discredit a religion.
the religion has nothing, whatsoever, to do with how these women act in life.
I did not accuse Dark Shadows of anything, I merely reflected her projections back, for her to see how other people can see her story. (If you check the latest response to her post, you'll see the similarities with my response)
the latest ruckus is not only a reflection of where you are at but also where you want to be
Happy Halloween!
Love
LuLu


I would appreciate it if you took responsibility for your communication style and treated people with more respect.

Barry
10-29-2007, 08:39 AM
I did not accuse Dark Shadows of anythingYou said "your passive-aggressive behavior"

Dark Shadows
10-29-2007, 10:55 AM
I find this attacking and disrepectful. I have moved these posts to the Censored category. I'm sorry Dark Shadows that you were treated like this. I suggest you don't reply to ThePhiant. I have left your original post in the WaccoTalk category where hopefully you will receive more respectful and constructive replies.

Thank you Barry, I did think that Phiant was being needlessly confrontational. And, I sought this forum for help, not for more emotional punishment. I did get good advice from one of your posters and I think it will help me to understand where my employer is coming from.

ThePhiant
10-29-2007, 05:33 PM
You said "your passive-aggressive behavior"

that is a correct observation!
according to Dark Shadows, this was the problem;

This woman routinely asks me to shell out cash to buy groceries for her mother's home, then always finds some excuse not to repay me on a timely basis or not to pay me in cash.and this is how she dealt with it;

Finally, I got fed up with it and told her I did not have the cash to buy groceries and her mother indeed needed food.


I finally suggested that I get a note from her doctor and sign her mother up for Meals on Wheels so this did not become a problem.she is not directly dealing with the issue but instead comes with a punishing reply, I'd say that qualifies as passive- aggressive behavior

Barry
10-29-2007, 07:56 PM
I don't agree, and it's not up to you to pass judgment (as you often point out, you don't have full information) and I'm not going to dispute this with you. :censored:


that is a correct observation!
according to Dark Shadows, this was the problem;
and this is how she dealt with it;
she is not directly dealing with the issue but instead comes with a punishing reply, I'd say that qualifies as passive- aggressive behavior

ThePhiant
10-29-2007, 09:17 PM
OK, so it not up to me to pass judgement (this is coming from the one who censors, LOL).
but is it OK for others to post judge-mental descriptions of another person, such as the following:

but the underlying intent is passive-aggressive, to insult me, or snipe at me in some way.

I have had the misfortune to have been employed by two women (who incidentally both practice Tibetan Buddhism) who are extremely insensitive and unhelpful

like the Phiant said before

is this the whole story?



I don't agree, and it's not up to you to pass judgment (as you often point out, you don't have full information) and I'm not going to dispute this with you. :censored: