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mykil
09-25-2007, 01:23 PM
I was going to write a post about our pecking order in our society today, but after thinking about this for several weeks, instead of baiting you all and acting like a troll, I might just ask and start a nice debate on the subject, thus still getting the information I desire. I have allot to say on this but I will hold my tongue till latter. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
The question that is far most on my mind is what makes you better than me? Where on earth do people get the ideas that they are better than anyone else? What makes them act this way? How on earth is a bug put into someone’s brain to make them feel this way? When you meet someone how do you know you are better than him or her or on a lower level than this person? I am really interested in this subject and really want to know what the people think!

ThePhiant
09-25-2007, 02:16 PM
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The question that is far most on my mind is what makes you better than me?this is an easy one! LOL
if you repost in the uncensored section, I'll give you the long version!
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Where on earth do people get the ideas that they are better than anyone else? What makes them act this way? How on earth is a bug put into someone’s brain to make them feel this way? When you meet someone how do you know you are better than him or her or on a lower level than this person? I am really interested in this subject and really want to know what the people think!are you driving yourself all batty again with too much time on one hand and a big fat one in the other?
Mykil
IT IS ALL PROJECTION!!!
IT ISN'T TRUE!!
you can either put on clothes or dress up.
it is still projection
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BELIEVE IT, caus otherwise you end up calling someone a narcissist. LOL

Love
your LuLu

Willie Lumplump
09-25-2007, 09:52 PM
The question that is far most on my mind is what makes you better than me? Where on earth do people get the ideas that they are better than anyone else? What makes them act this way? How on earth is a bug put into someone’s brain to make them feel this way? When you meet someone how do you know you are better than him or her or on a lower level than this person?

Your question is of fundamental interest. As Debora Tannen, the Georgetown University Linguist, points out, men spend their lives struggling for status and prestige, and at any given moment nearly every man can tell you who's up and who's down and where he stands in relation to other men. Your question, "What makes them act this way?" seems the most answerable. Dominant men generally attract the most female attention, and female attention equates to reproductive opportunities. Genes that favored dominant behavior were the genes that survived and multiplied best down through the hundreds of thousands of generations, so naturally they are prevalent today, and we see their prevalence in the contests that go on continually between men.

Your last question also has some good answers. Generally, a man who acts confidently is regarded as "better." A man with material wealth, power, and prestige is acknowledged as better because he gains these commodities through the exercise of dominance and because he is likely to enjoy the greatest number of reproductive opportunities with the most desirable females.

Many of these behaviors are hard-wired into us although they can be modifed to some extent by cultural factors or personal history. The Hopi Indians certainly developed an anti-dominance culture. When a male child would attempt to dominate other male children, his mother would take him aside and redefine his identity by rebuking him with, "No, no, that's not Hopi."

littlemommyfae
09-25-2007, 10:45 PM
Hi Mykil,

I am quite new to this WaccoBB.net yet, I do come through here and read some of what goes on. I must say...I have been quite impressed with "LuLu"...She is very good to you.

I thought I would let you know...as it is the first what comes to mind...in remembering the first time I have experienced jealousy...go figure why that gets drawn up from the interior...yet it does...Here is the short of it...I hope to lend...Something #1 and #2 it goes back to what my mother has always told me...We are what we see... even tangled up in a way...Like this...

So,...way back 20 years or so...I have this friend...and we are kind to eachother...and stand offish at times...So it seems, both of us can feel it...this sort of friction. Years, go by...parties, gatherings, conversation, quietness...all sorts of disposition AND, this energy what feels like separation...So one day, she is bummed out...and cries to me...she says...oh...you are so happy all of the time...and several other qualities she depicts in a nice light. I begin to realize...I am confused about this energy I have felt around her...because she is acting completely oposite. it also becons on me...that what is really going on is that...I like her!...and as I am seeing what I like about her...I am measuring myself...do I have this?...do I have that? And what I am really doing here is seeing how lovely she is too me...and I like this and I like that...and somehow I become lesser, in my own opinion, therefore the insecurity. So, I take the very uncomfortable step of explaining to her...You Know Aixa I am amazed that you see me as you do...because, you seem all of this beauty to me...and I do not see it in myself and I notice this struggle with the two of us...yet you are not actually of these selfish behaiviors I had imagined. She explained the same to me..of her feelings. You see...both of us let our guard down...and we discovered how that we truly felt more conected than separated. I bring this up, relative to what my mother says...

When we see things in others...weather they are positive or negative...we are seeing ourselves and the reason that we can recognize certain qualities in others with a passion...or some other thing attatched too it...a behaivior...or a judgement...or not is only a reflection of how open we allow ourselves to be...or how repressed and suppressed we choose to live.

So...I say...if someone is busy being better than another...how tangled up must this one be inside...and he or she can only look through their own window. If the glass is dirty...all you can see is dirt.

I hope you can forgive the sort of metaphors...I give. I am trying not to go off on a tangent.

Lets suppose our way of interacting in the world is like our house. we come and go...we invite or not what comes in...so, it might be important for us to keep our windows clean...and rearannge the interior and commit spring cleaning...to allow for the new to come...as we dust be grateful for the lessons we find. Like Bob Dylan says...it is not a house...it's a home! And perhaps the repairs we do make way for the wisdom to shine...like having commpassion for those who want to come along and begin shooting property lines...Each of us will learn...or not...in our own time.

When someone is spending energy in any way..."being better" than another, it is only a reflection of what has been learned. Somebody has to be smaller...Aren't there klishe's like...the pot calling kettle black...or knock on the fools door and the fool answers...who is the fool?

Well, I hate to sound preachy...I just wanted to respond to your question. You do ask some profound things. I find it a good exersize to see what this means to me. You are right. It does deserve some attention. All of us might want to take care with our thinking. Thoughts are quite creative, aren't they.

Cheers, littlemommyfae

Juggledude
09-26-2007, 07:58 AM
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The question that is far most on my mind is what makes you better than me? Where on earth do people get the ideas that they are better than anyone else? What makes them act this way? How on earth is a bug put into someone’s brain to make them feel this way? When you meet someone how do you know you are better than him or her or on a lower level than this person? I am really interested in this subject and really want to know what the people think!

Why are you phrasing the question from an assumed starting point of inferiority?

What the heck is "better", anyway?

Sounds to me like a personal value judgment, which is something I try very hard to avoid, and when failing that, at least keep to myself.

You are different from me, not better, and through an exploration of this difference, we may experience the joy of knowing, both each other and ourselves.

Royce

P.S. I am taller than you, though :wink:

Willie Lumplump
09-26-2007, 08:56 PM
Why are you phrasing the question from an assumed starting point of inferiority?

Mykil could have avoided confusion through a judicious use of quotation marks, but I don't think it's hard to see where they belong. And, as I said before, I think his questions are very profound.

mykil
09-27-2007, 12:17 PM
Profound? A direct human interface, that has made an emotion spark from your lovely system. HMMMM! I don’t see it this way, yet when I write I don’t stop to think, it sort of pours freely form my soul, so you may have a point!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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Let me tell you a little something about this question, I have been in awe of this thought pondering it’s tad bit of a dilemma, querying this in my brain for many years, studying ever aspect of the human nature just for fun, the question entertains me to no end. I have grown my hair long once again; I wear tie-dyes everywhere I go. Just to see the expressions on people’s faces. Ninety-nine percent of the people just assume they are better than one with long hair and tie-dye, believe me. Dressing to the tee and going to the barber ever week is way beyond this boy. So I might as well have fun with it! At times is seems almost like a joke to me, the expressions on peoples faces when they walk into my shop and ask if I know where the proprietor is. Shocked to discover I am I! I have to laugh; some don’t even consider the option of buying something from me, just because I am who I am. I imagine if I cared about money one little bit, this would be done differently. But I don’t and this has alwayz given me an edge toward my goals in life. <o:p></o:p>
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As Willie has pointed out this has allot to do with picking out your mate, well I have to tell you, I would not even suggest going out with a woman that would be so shallow and vein. My whole life has been about seeking people that can just be themselves and emit happiness and love to the extent that nothing else would even be considered. Obviously there are allot of circles in our society. These different circles even have different dress codes. Now this is really funny to me, if I were to walk up to a circle of people that happened to be dressed different than me, they would be appalled and shine me on as if I were beneath them. It wouldn’t even matter or make a difference if I made more money than they do. The fact that they dress different than me would be all there was to say. IT really cracks me up to no ends that if I wanted a hot little hot number that was full on herself to the max, pretty much all I would have to do is buy a little corvette and drive it around town. I would have plenty of these little shallow women flocking toward me. Yet if I drive my truck around town I will get no little playmates in those sexy little thongs to play with me. LOL!<o:p></o:p>
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I do respect what littlemommyfae has to say about the mirror of our relationships, and the fact that most are to busy to even notice that life is moving faster than most can keep up with. When one has kids and has a job, they don’t seem to be caught up in the pecking order of our communities. They just live and settle for where they land in the order of the chain of command. I think they really don’t have to pretend to be better than one or even anticipate the next fashion trend in our time. They are happy just surviving in our space and time to no prevail. Most think back before they had children and wonder why they are where they are, wonder where in the hell that perfect little body went and really seem to get stuck in a rut, where as most are just extremely happy and over the top to at raising such beautiful little beings. This all has to do with the thought that you deserve more or less or the pecking order and where you think you should be.<o:p></o:p>
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I kind of want to go back to the beginning and see where in the hell it all starts; we are all born under a bad or a good star to speak, with our own intentions in life right from the gate. Every one of us has our own attitude and characteristics when we drop from the womb. Some are selfish, some are more giving. While others are dam right rude and will do anything to get their way, and others will do anything to protect our tiny little world. I am just in awe sometimes about the difference in the way people’s brains are wired. People watching are my favorite sport out there. Everyone has a different aspect in life and I am alwayz trying to figure out how on earth they get these attitudes and where they get off being just way better than me. I have no problem with anyone being better than me, to me it has alwayz be the challenge to keep everyone better than me thus not having to spend my money on the cloths, the cars or the expensive everything that goes with it all. <o:p></o:p>
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I started watching people at a young age, around thirteen or so in the parking lot in Monte Rio. I was with a guy who bought me a beer and started telling me what he was doing. He told me he loves to sit there and just watch people, and if anyone knows Monte Rio about thirty years ago, you could really get allot out of people watching. I did this same thing everyday for years. It was wonderful to see the vast individuals drinking beer, slamming drugs in their veins right there in the parking lot, or plain right out trying to steal things right out of people cars just to get their high. I have to admit this was a tad bit more extreme than most parts of the world, even to this very day Monte Rio has the highest drug OD rate in the ENTIRE WORLD! So it was really a site to see. <o:p></o:p>
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Enough for now! I don’t want to bore anyone yet! Oh and BTW Royce you are also fatter tan me too!<o:p></o:p>
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Willie Lumplump
09-27-2007, 07:39 PM
As Willie has pointed out this has allot to do with picking out your mate, well I have to tell you, I would not even suggest going out with a woman that would be so shallow and vein.

I held the same attitude until fairly recently, but now I wonder. Since these behaviors are, to some extent, hard-wired into us, it might make sense to cut each other some slack.