This means Staph Aureus Methicillin Resistant. Is there anyone out there who can give me some helpful hints on prevention and relief ? I know a few people with this bacteria infection and looking for some answers. :yinyang: Thanks :yinyang:
rodeogal
09-02-2007, 11:29 PM
If you know people who have it, FIRST --- have they been to a doctor?? I really hope so! I've had it twice (6 months apart), hospitalized both times with a pic line in my arm (threads thru the vein to the heart) for IV antibiotics.......Vencomycine (sp?). It's really caustic hardcore stuff, but it saved my life. The doctors had to resort to it because everything else wasn't working and the infection was spreading like crazy. Finally, my brother (who's a cardiologist) realized with ONE LOOK what it was.....the MRSA......and had me admitted to the hospital.
This is DEADLY stuff! I almost died! It's also EXTREMELY contageous!!! Make sure your friends disinfect their homes, their cars, anything they possible can that they've touched. It's spread thru touching.....anything. Disinfecting is VITAL to the bacteria not spreading! There's a certain type of liquid soap my doctor gave me to wash everything with that's almost certain to kill the bacteria, but I don't remember what it's name is.
As far as relief from the intense pain, Morphene was the only thing that did it for me. Vicodin does nothing for me. So I got Morphene in the hospital.......as much as I wanted.......and Norco to take home. It worked okay, but by the time I went home, I wasn't in the "passing out" pain I was in before. In fact, when my brother had me admitted to the hospital first time, they gave me a double dose of Morphene just to nip the pain! UGH! I get chills thinking about that ordeal! Norco's a narcotic, but we're also dealing with some serious pain from the Staph!
Good luck with this!! It's nasty stuff! I'll be sending healthy energy your way......er, your friends' ways!
LS :wink:
Tars
09-03-2007, 06:53 PM
I've contracted it twice also. I think my wife got it once, probably from me. My doctor gave me a "cocktail" of two different oral antibiotics, on a ten-day schedule. That worked well. Fortunately they were inexpensive ones, both of which I believe were available at the Wal-Mart pharmacy for $5 each.
The doctor also suggested that my mate & I wash our clothes separately for awhile, and "use a disinfectant detergent". I used a small amount of bleach instead, in every load - 1/4 cup. That seemed to work well for us. Of course you'll want to avoid bodily fluid contact with common surfaces - counters - sinks, etc. And disinfect very VERY often. Do not use common bathmats, towels, etc.
decterlove
09-03-2007, 09:57 PM
I may be way off base on this one.....but there are some natural antimicrobials that I would suspect MIGHT address serious bacteria such as staph which is as I understand a very big problem in hospitals, etc. these days...
GSE grapefruit seed extract is supposed to have very strong and broad anti-microbial properties....
Tea Tree oil I believe was used by the Australian military as a primary anti-bacterial agent but I certainly seems a lot weaker than pure GSE (which can be taken internally diluted as well as externally in varying strengths depending on a persons sensitivity.)
Pure Wild Oregano Oil is a very strong anti-microbial essential oil .....Olive leaf probably a weaker one....
And Colloidal Silver may or may not be bogus....
I'm speculating of course on the real value of any of these for the issue at hand but I suspect if more research was funded on at least a few of the above mentioned.....they would prove to be extremely useful things to have around even if stronger antibiotics were necessary for more serious infections. Pubmed.gov or .org has some studies on some of these....according to them silver just hasn't show any real properties to my knowledge. Love to hear some real evidence either way from people with real data.
chow bellow....beware the SUPERGERMS OF TOMORROW........!!!!
Punkasaurus Rex
09-04-2007, 09:31 AM
There is, or was, a specialist named Margaret Warner who was in charge of the Infectious Disease Department at Stanford Hospital who was a pioneer in the "growing" of specific bacterias. I was told she is no longer there, but she helped a number of people who were not properly diagnosed in Sonoma County and you may be able to find out more from Dr. Stephen Abbott here in Santa Rosa if he is still up at the Sutter
Campus. Let me know if you would like some phone #'s. PS: Decterlove is correct in that Oregano has worked in some instances just as silver has not met any universal success.
Good Luck Tinque:):
This means Staph Aureus Methicillin Resistant. Is there anyone out there who can give me some helpful hints on prevention and relief ? I know a few people with this bacteria infection and looking for some answers. :yinyang: Thanks :yinyang:
Rucira
09-06-2007, 11:05 AM
everyone slow down. all these remedies might make hold it at bay if its skin deep but if mrsa gets into your bloodstream as it will when it enters thru an open cut or wound you need IV hard core drugs . go to the emergency room. I nearly died from it once . I am an herbalist and use herbs for absolutely everything but this mrsa once its in your bloodstream will jump u up to a mad fever and take u out if u dont get on an IV. just staph bacteria will respond to herbs and general antibiotic applications. but if your talking about methocyllin resistant stapholoccoccys aureous bacteria, this spelled
doomsday bug. its a mutation and only responds to one or two specific intravenous treatments. [email protected]:hmmm:
GSE grapefruit seed extract is supposed to have very strong and broad anti-microbial properties....
Tea Tree oil I believe was used by the Australian military as a primary anti-bacterial agent but I certainly seems a lot weaker than pure GSE (which can be taken internally diluted as well as externally in varying strengths depending on a persons sensitivity.)
Pure Wild Oregano Oil is a very strong anti-microbial essential oil .....Olive leaf probably a weaker one....
And Colloidal Silver may or may not be bogus....
I'm speculating of course on the real value of any of these for the issue at hand but I suspect if more research was funded on at least a few of the above mentioned.....they would prove to be extremely useful things to have around even if stronger antibiotics were necessary for more serious infections. Pubmed.gov or .org has some studies on some of these....according to them silver just hasn't show any real properties to my knowledge. Love to hear some real evidence either way from people with real data.
chow bellow....beware the SUPERGERMS OF TOMORROW........!!!![/quote]
Rucira
09-06-2007, 11:16 AM
And need I not forget to mention that persons with compromised immune systems such as those taking medications to supress their immune systems (as like myself with rhematoid arthritis) can drop dead quick. my first clue was an absess under my armpit accompanied by a 106 fever. i drove to the emergency room and was promptly put on the wrong antibiotic and began to die. the doc said i had to be in isolation once they found the mrsa. then luckily my clinic dr, dr coomber at sonoma county indian health discovered the err, and changed me over to the hard core antibiotic drip, telling me I had a 50 percent chance of survival. I believe I caught this mess from the gym at 24 hr fitness on industrial probly in the steam rm or spa when i had open acne lesion. gross huh. ( i am not in contact with the general public or anyone, as im a total recluse) anyways all im saying is there is a big difference between staph bacteria and mrsa staph which is a mutated format, and by the way can continue to mutate so as not to be killed by the drugs which are available to combat it. germ warfare type stuff huh. the best thing is to not take immuno repressive meds no matter what. i dont anymore. stick to the herbs to boost your immune system and never swim or bathe in public with an open wound or even a scratch if your immune system IS compromised. echinachea, golden seal, lysine, zinc , vit c, bee pollen, fresh organic fruits and veges and staying away from eating dead animals will all help a lot for prevention.:thumbsup:
GSE grapefruit seed extract is supposed to have very strong and broad anti-microbial properties....
Tea Tree oil I believe was used by the Australian military as a primary anti-bacterial agent but I certainly seems a lot weaker than pure GSE (which can be taken internally diluted as well as externally in varying strengths depending on a persons sensitivity.)
Pure Wild Oregano Oil is a very strong anti-microbial essential oil .....Olive leaf probably a weaker one....
And Colloidal Silver may or may not be bogus....
I'm speculating of course on the real value of any of these for the issue at hand but I suspect if more research was funded on at least a few of the above mentioned.....they would prove to be extremely useful things to have around even if stronger antibiotics were necessary for more serious infections. Pubmed.gov or .org has some studies on some of these....according to them silver just hasn't show any real properties to my knowledge. Love to hear some real evidence either way from people with real data.
chow bellow....beware the SUPERGERMS OF TOMORROW........!!!![/quote][/quote]
decterlove
09-06-2007, 11:25 AM
Thanks for posting about how you suspect you caught it and for sharing the immediate symptoms to watch out for. Scary stuff...but life is quite an adventure is it not?
I would appreciate hearing from anyone who knows resources to look for studies done on natural substances like GSE. The company Nutribiotics provides a chart indicating it compares well to even substances like bleach for some purposes...but perhaps they are biased. I know of Pubmed.org....any others?
rodeogal
09-06-2007, 11:55 PM
THANK YOU RUCIRA!!! Topical anything will NOT get rid of the MRSA staph!!! I also had major absesses, extremely painful and spread from a tiny pimple-like sore to 12 inches in diameter in only 5 days (the first time--the 2nd time I knew what it was and went to the hospital immediately). Yes, isolation is necessary, as is being careful to disinfect EVERYTHING in your home and environments continuously.
PLEASE, people!! DON'T downplay the seriousness of this mutation!! If you mess around with topicals and oral Xengo stuff (as good as that stuff may be for OTHER things), you stand a strong chance of it being too late when you finally do get to the doctor, and you will die. Quickly.
One more thing.........blood "purifiers" will not nix this bacteria. I've heard people say they were healed from MRSA with a blood purifier. Then they didn't have the MRSA. Like Rucira said, it continuously mutates. What works today may not work tomorrow.
Bottom line, JUST GO TO THE DOCTOR!! I'm still recovering, 14 months later, from the effects of the IV antibiotics, but I'M ALIVE!!
And need I not forget to mention that persons with compromised immune systems such as those taking medications to supress their immune systems (as like myself with rhematoid arthritis) can drop dead quick. my first clue was an absess under my armpit accompanied by a 106 fever. i drove to the emergency room and was promptly put on the wrong antibiotic and began to die. the doc said i had to be in isolation once they found the mrsa. then luckily my clinic dr, dr coomber at sonoma county indian health discovered the err, and changed me over to the hard core antibiotic drip, telling me I had a 50 percent chance of survival. I believe I caught this mess from the gym at 24 hr fitness on industrial probly in the steam rm or spa when i had open acne lesion. gross huh. ( i am not in contact with the general public or anyone, as im a total recluse) anyways all im saying is there is a big difference between staph bacteria and mrsa staph which is a mutated format, and by the way can continue to mutate so as not to be killed by the drugs which are available to combat it. germ warfare type stuff huh. the best thing is to not take immuno repressive meds no matter what. i dont anymore. stick to the herbs to boost your immune system and never swim or bathe in public with an open wound or even a scratch if your immune system IS compromised. echinachea, golden seal, lysine, zinc , vit c, bee pollen, fresh organic fruits and veges and staying away from eating dead animals will all help a lot for prevention.:thumbsup:
GSE grapefruit seed extract is supposed to have very strong and broad anti-microbial properties....
Tea Tree oil I believe was used by the Australian military as a primary anti-bacterial agent but I certainly seems a lot weaker than pure GSE (which can be taken internally diluted as well as externally in varying strengths depending on a persons sensitivity.)
Pure Wild Oregano Oil is a very strong anti-microbial essential oil .....Olive leaf probably a weaker one....
And Colloidal Silver may or may not be bogus....
I'm speculating of course on the real value of any of these for the issue at hand but I suspect if more research was funded on at least a few of the above mentioned.....they would prove to be extremely useful things to have around even if stronger antibiotics were necessary for more serious infections. Pubmed.gov or .org has some studies on some of these....according to them silver just hasn't show any real properties to my knowledge. Love to hear some real evidence either way from people with real data.
chow bellow....beware the SUPERGERMS OF TOMORROW........!!!![/quote][/quote]