There have been a couple of adult (sexual) humor posts in the WaccoReader (https://www.waccobb.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=21)category lately and I want to get a sense of the community if you're comfortable with that and how to present them in the most suitable way given the vast variety of sensibilities out there. I'm OK with them but I thought I'd see where you all are at...
First the two posts are the "Dildo Song (https://www.waccobb.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15139)" and the "Sexual Consent Forms (https://www.waccobb.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15204)". (those are links to the posts) Both lead to rather tasteful and delightful funny videos, In My Opinion (IMO). I would say they are someplace between PG-13 and R-rated.
Speaking of consent forms, what do you folks think about whether such things should be posted on WaccoBB.net?
Are ratings ("R") helpful?
Should all humor be in its own category?
Should adult humor be in its own category so that you know what you may be in for?
But would it then attract kids? Would that be so bad?
Should we enforce users to declare they are an adult before "entering" the adult humor section?
How? By asking for birth date? (easily faked) Requiring a credit card? (not so easily faked)
Keep in mind that humor comes in all different ways. The two videos above are excellent examples of tasteful, even "conscious" humor. I would remove any posts that I thought were in poor taste (and I'm a fairly open minded guy), but as we've seen in the Holy Apparition (https://www.waccobb.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14716) thread, people's mileage can vary! Perhaps there could be a committee... The new version of this website will have a rating system that could also be useful.
I've included a non-binding anonymous Poll just so its easier to reply without writing something. But I encourage you (including you lurkers! :lurk:) to drop a note here!
So what are your thoughts? :censored: :balance: :shake'em:
Barry
Moderator
podfish
12-05-2006, 11:18 PM
despite the fact that 'adult' humor often is more juvenile than adult (ok, maybe because of that) there's no reason to single it out for special attention. Why would you? "to protect the children"? I don't think that works real well....
a catagory of its own with the usual option of not subscribing if you don't want to. it is everyones choice to either see the humor or pass. We are adults after all.
baa
Dixon
12-06-2006, 02:23 AM
Hi!
I tried 4 times to vote in the poll, but pushing the "vote now" button only got me a sign that said: "Could not open the page “https://www.waccobb.net/forums/poll.php” (https://www.waccobb.net/forums/poll.php%E2%80%9D) after trying for 60 seconds.", so I'll just comment briefly (!) instead.
I see no reason to treat sexual material any differently than anything else. I can't imagine how seeing such material could harm anyone (including your kids), though people with issues around sex (i.e., prudes, and maybe in some cases people who've been traumatized by some kind of sexual abuse) may experience some emotional distress. I urge those folks to deal with that issue by doing their own screening without censoring the rest of us or saddling us with a ratings system.
Thanks!
Dixon
alanora
12-06-2006, 07:43 AM
Mindy here, I am still singing the dildo song in my head! I do not think it would be harmful to developing senses at all. At worst may inspire some rather frank discussions that some might feel uncomfortable sharing with their children!!! How did I miss the sexual consent forms? I remember my now adult daughter telling me that while others were being indoctrinated with the "sex talk" she was given the "you don't need a man for that talk" and an invitation to "Good Vibrations" where I believe they did have a young girl's introductory dildo kit!
Spirit Splasher
12-06-2006, 09:26 AM
If there's enough humor to warrant it's own category, it makes sense to start a new one just to laugh at.
Since the world (and Waccos) are a wonderful mix of likes, dislikes, beliefs and preferences, it may be helpful for those posting anything (not just humor) that may be offensive to some (as not much is offensive to all) to put some sort of indication of such possibility in the title of the thread. You could just end your title with a symbol, which we would recognize as "enter at your own risk" or some sort of warning for the faint of heart. This way, nobody would feel the need to dis-associate themselves from this wonderful website just because something that was offensive to them (and not to others) was posted. ***However, as I re-read this part before posting I realize that such a symbol could be put on a lot of postings, so this might not be the best idea.
I understand that some might want those who may be offended to actually view such posts to start some sort of dialogue about it. However, if those who view a post are offended by it, then what good has come of it? They surely won't dialogue in a detached and constructive manner, so what's the point? If the point is to offend, then the post may not be what we'd like to see on Wacco?????
We would all benefit if we all recognized that the world is made up of different people from different cultures with different histories raised in different environments by different families. Think about others before you post, please.
I've tried to type a specific response to the ratings and children issues, only to find that I'm not sure what I think about it, so I will leave it at what I've already written.
Blessings to all!
tomcat
12-06-2006, 10:05 AM
Sure, we need a humor only category. I vote for no censorship. If you're easily offended, don't go there.
...don't worry, your kids have already seen it all on their friends computers.
Tom
mykil
12-06-2006, 10:34 AM
I must admit even with my extremely strong since of humor, I was offended by the doggy. I guess I just have a week stomach. I’ve always had a week stomach for even the word shit or dodo or my all-time worst FART! Also I am a strong believer in the faith, thou I don’t think that had a lot to do with it, being I was taught properly to turn the other cheek, take some things with a grain of salt to speak [unlike some obviously]! The point being a separate category would be wonderful in the evolution of this wonderful site. WE can’t help it; we are trying to be a collective and some part of us actually does have a sense of humor. This would be great to get all the Christian women back of track; maybe they can avoid the humor section like the plague? I myself love to read all the email jokes I receive on a daily basis and would love to share my laughter with some peeps that would really enjoy them. Humor takes up most of the time in my life; I have little room for any other thought patterns what-so-ever! In one man’s opinion!!! :2cents:
Tecumseh
12-06-2006, 10:35 AM
Humor is a great way to relieve stress, and adult humour is just as valuable IMHO.
psaltz
12-06-2006, 11:09 AM
>
Are ratings ("R") helpful?
For those whose sensibilities are easily offended, I suppose. . . Oh, yeah, for the rest of us, an R or X or even XXX will suck us right in ;=)
>
Should all humor be in its own category?
Oh for goddess' sake . . . I suppose, for those whose faces would crack if they should ever laugh, or even smile . . . Maybe we could provide several separate categories, G, PG, R, X, XX, XXX, XIV . . .
>
Should adult humor be in its own category so that you know what you
> may be in for?
Aren't we all adults here?
>
But would it then attract kids? Would that be so bad?
They might (GASP!) learn something their parents, or their peers, or the bible (where I used to search, in my hormone-ridden youth in the 50's), or TV, forgot to teach them!
>
Should we enforce users to declare they are an adult before "entering"
> the adult humor section?
Oh yeah, that'll work, no one knows how to lie to that one!
>
How? By asking for birth date? (easily faked) Requiring a credit card?
> (not so easily faked)
Nah, let's just take their word for it!
Seriously, are there still parents out there who trying to keep their kids from knowing anything?!?! In this century!?!? It's like those people who sterilize everything in their houses, then succumb to the least little whiff of virus, because they haven't built up antibodies. In the words of Janice on "Friends": Oh. My. God.
>Keep in mind that humor comes in all different ways. The two videos
> above are excellent examples of tasteful, even "conscious" humor.
By whose standards? I bet they've offended someone! Look at the uproar over a delightful little puppy butt!
> I would remove any posts that I thought were in poor taste (and I'm a
> fairly open minded guy),
Well, if we HAVE to have a censor (because I guess we're not really all adults here, huh?), you're probably a bit more liberal than the average . . . at least you let the Holy Apparition run its course . . .
> but as we've seen in the Holy Apparition thread, people's mileage can
> vary! Perhaps there could be a committee...
Oh goodo a committee! Like the Hays commission! Like the McCarthy commission! Like in the book "1984"! That'll be fun!
Sassy1
12-06-2006, 12:22 PM
I'm a cross between open minded and square. Myself I enjoy a good joke in any form.
Unfortunately some people are really uptight or all tied up in their own personal straight jacket. It is for people such as these adult jokes should have their own place.
That way they do not have to read or be swayed by a visual pass, as they read other posts. You know like turning off the TV or radio if you don't like what's on. Just don't enter.
Holly B
12-06-2006, 03:19 PM
I'd like to see it mixed in with everything, as in real life, but having some clarifying notation offered in the Title (e.g. R-rated, or 'potentially offensive') so those who choose to can bypass it. I don't like the idea of a separate category (too isolating), but I do like the idea of choice.
I realize a warning notation might apply to many posts (or not enough, according to some), but I think it should be voluntary on the part of the poster, encouraging each of us to have a heightened awareness of how our posts may affect others. This is meant as a form of caring for others, not of stifling the creative impulse!
-Holly B.
vanhornvh
12-06-2006, 08:29 PM
If you live in a free society you WILL sooner or later be offended. You have a right to be offended, but if you are never offended, something is wrong . . .
you don't live in real freedom.
I hate it when institutions try to protect/isolate us or our children from reality, or from the messy opinions and 'in-correct' humor of others.
- Fsharp
Juggledude
12-09-2006, 01:04 AM
For me, the central issue here is kids. I am a parent, and as such, hold a certain value on the innocence of my children, and personally, hold a higher value on their knowledge, education, and moral and decision making skills which will give them the tools to make their own informed decisions in this big bad world.
The balance between the two is one I navigate with a precision, in constant examination and in discussion with my wife, and, as often as possible, in discussion with my daughter. This fine line is one I cherish, and through involvement I try to fool myself into believing I'm knowledgeable as to where my kid is from day to day. To have this line imposed upon, either in the direction of censorship from some well meaning do gooder, or in the direction of impropriety from some well meaning joke teller, would and probably will be a source of some consternation for me. Live and let live, leave the power and decisions of who to tell what and how much in the hands of the individual families, is my humble opinion.
how to implement this? who knows... active involvement with your children in the home, in their tv watching and internet surfing activities is as close as I can come. the onus for this one is not on the content provider, imho.
Unfortunately, we live in a litigious society somewhat dominated, or at least heavily influenced by, well meaning zealots who in their righteous indignation are very convinced the rest of us need to be saved from our own selves. For this reason, and almost this reason alone, I would vote to put the possibly pornographic or questionably interpreted material behind at least a prima facia disclaimer of adult content, and expressed consent. This will show good faith should anyone ever push the issue, and is a simple precaution to protect the community we are developing from the 'greater good'. Would that this board was truly local, as it's intent, but the realities of the internet do leave us open to wider scrutiny than our local enlightened views would impose.
A warning page is a minimal inconvenience, a small cowtow to the 'societal norm' that exists in the now (until we can affect change!), and a big CYA.
Royce
alanora
12-09-2006, 06:42 AM
Hi Folks!
There have been a couple of adult (sexual) humor posts in the WaccoReader (https://www.waccobb.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=21)category lately and I want to get a sense of the community if you're comfortable with that and how to present them in the most suitable way given the vast variety of sensibilities out there. I'm OK with them but I thought I'd see where you all are at...
First the two posts are the "Dildo Song (https://www.waccobb.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15139)" and the "Sexual Consent Forms (https://www.waccobb.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15204)". (those are links to the posts) Both lead to rather tasteful and delightful funny videos, In My Opinion (IMO). I would say they are someplace between PG-13 and R-rated.
Speaking of consent forms, what do you folks think about whether such things should be posted on WaccoBB.net?
Are ratings ("R") helpful?
Should all humor be in its own category?
Should adult humor be in its own category so that you know what you may be in for?
But would it then attract kids? Would that be so bad?
Should we enforce users to declare they are an adult before "entering" the adult humor section?
How? By asking for birth date? (easily faked) Requiring a credit card? (not so easily faked)
Keep in mind that humor comes in all different ways. The two videos above are excellent examples of tasteful, even "conscious" humor. I would remove any posts that I thought were in poor taste (and I'm a fairly open minded guy), but as we've seen in the Holy Apparition (https://www.waccobb.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14716) thread, people's mileage can vary! Perhaps there could be a committee... The new version of this website will have a rating system that could also be useful.
I've included a non-binding anonymous Poll just so its easier to reply without writing something. But I encourage you (including you lurkers! :lurk:) to drop a note here!
So what are your thoughts? :censored: :balance: :shake'em:
Barry
Moderator Has anyone felt, as I do that the calling of something humorous sets up expectations that detract from the experience itself?! Fine with me that we categorize, just wondered if any one else works the same way?! Mindy