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infojockey
04-15-2020, 09:04 PM
Glad you liked it. This one is far from politically correct, but the message needs to be heard. It's short, from a savvy comic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-eMSRjU4A0&list=RDycsEUOCSunw&index=38
cyberanvil
04-16-2020, 01:47 PM
Glad you liked it. This one is far from politically correct, but the message needs to be heard. It's short, from a savvy comic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-eMSRjU4A0&list=RDycsEUOCSunw&index=38
People complain that Trump is doing so many things wrong. And yet, Occupy, Antifa and others are braindead. They aren't just under achievers, they are zero achievers.
Is there anyone else besides a trump supporter that would have a list of what trump has done that was good?
People complain that Trump is doing so many things wrong. And yet, Occupy, Antifa and others are braindead. They aren't just under achievers, they are zero achievers.
infojockey
04-16-2020, 04:25 PM
Trump has been so thoroughly demonized and the public so utterly polarized that it's not likely. The Stalin show trials and Goebbel's anti-semitism are analagous public relations tendencies. If I claim that the anti-Trump hysteria amounts to the emotional content of a full moon Mississippi lynch mob, too many on the left would go "Yer goddamn right!"
Is there anyone else besides a trump supporter that would have a list of what trump has done that was good?
Ok, lets try this. Is there any proof that trump has done anything of benefit for America?
Trump has been so thoroughly demonized and the public so utterly polarized that it's not likely. The Stalin show trials and Goebbel's anti-semitism are analagous public relations tendencies. If I claim that the anti-Trump hysteria amounts to the emotional content of a full moon Mississippi lynch mob, too many on the left would go "Yer goddamn right!"
infojockey
04-16-2020, 08:24 PM
Yah, he's shown the left to be a howling pack of hyenas with a lynch mob mentality when they had been living under the delusion that they were the sanctified vessels of all human virtue who thought that Marxism was the liberation of the wretched of the earth. Meanwhile the wretched of the earth just wanted some startup money for a capitalist enterprise or some tillable land they would raise surplus crops upon and sell them for a profit so they could enjoy some of the benefits of modernism. Enough trigger words in there to blast you into orbit. Have at it.
Ok, lets try this. Is there any proof that trump has done anything of benefit for America?
podfish
04-16-2020, 08:34 PM
Trump has been so thoroughly demonized and the public so utterly polarized that it's not likely. The Stalin show trials and Goebbel's anti-semitism are analagous public relations tendencies. If I claim that the anti-Trump hysteria amounts to the emotional content of a full moon Mississippi lynch mob, too many on the left would go "Yer goddamn right!"look, no-one's making this up. He hasn't been demonized from nothing. Sure, the longer he's there doing the things that he's doing, the more upset people will be -- some to the point of calling him a demon, I suppose, though that's an epithet more common on the right.
But the reaction to him is just that - a reaction. There's no need for prejudice against him, just exercise of judgment. He's awful, does awful things, has no redeeming qualities I can think of, and there's no reason to be 'balanced' if that means trying to forgive or ignore his actions. The polarization is because many people are apparently willing to ignore his faults. I can guess as to why, but that's not really important. He's polarizing because of that aspect. People who are open-minded and make their assessment of him on what they see, despise him. Those who forgive or ignore his flaws cannot successfully defend them. They deny what's apparent or declare it's unimportant. His defenders really really want what he's giving them (judges, the right to oppose civil rights for all, etc.) and are little bothered by his lack of empathy, policies that favor his cronies, and the fact that an ignorant, careless, intellectually incurious man is in a position of power and responsibility, creating incredible danger for us all.
That's not really "opinion" in that it's not based on feelings. Those charges are observable facts. You can have your own interpretation, maybe, but I have yet to see anyone actually disprove any of those observations. Being nice to his daughter isn't enough to defend him against the charge of lack of empathy, for example.
infojockey
04-16-2020, 08:58 PM
Believe as you wish. I see a political candidate that was attacked the instant he declared his candidacy. The Nazi Bush faction of the GOP want him dead worse than you do. You have heard of the "Never Trump" faction in the GOP. You know what the term "neocon" means, yes? Do me a favor and search "Prescott Bush - Nazi". So here we have the Rockefeller/Kissinger wing of the globalist fascist oligarchy - Wall St. -the very focus of the Occupy Wall St. movement, throwing everything they had at him right from jump. And the Democrats, many of whom supported or marched in the Occupy movement, jump right into their extermination camp boxcar - as their de facto freaking ally! The political left of this country finding themselves the bootlicks and lackeys and running dogs of the fascist globalist financier Nazi oligarchy, that's a hoot.
So if Trump did one thing right, he made their heads explode. And apparently, the Occupy radical left let their heads explode too, out of what, empathy? I'd call it stupidity. The left is owned toe nail to top knot by these Wall St. 3rd World loan shark mafia oligarch storm troopers. Here's a little video about how the Occupy movement ran their truck off the bridge. It's short and it's funny and it will show you what a real rebel is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-eMSRjU4A0
look, no-one's making this up. ..
podfish
04-16-2020, 09:26 PM
Believe as you wish. I see a political candidate that was attacked the instant he declared his candidacy. he was already well known and had a long and sordid history at that point.
The Nazi Bush faction of the GOP want him dead worse than you do. You have heard of the "Never Trump" faction in the GOP. You know what the term "neocon" means, yes? Do me a favor and search "Prescott Bush - Nazi". so he's got company - there are other people who are unpleasant and/or disqualified in their own right. So? what does that have to do with him?
So here we have the Rockefeller/Kissinger wing of the globalist fascist oligarchy - Wall St. -the very focus of the Occupy Wall St. movement, throwing everything they had at him right from jump. And the Democrats, many of whom supported or marched in the Occupy movement, jump right into their extermination camp boxcar - as their de facto freaking ally! The political left of this country finding themselves the bootlicks and lackeys and running dogs of the fascist globalist financier Nazi oligarchy, that's a hoot.all that shows is how many disparate groups recognize how awful he is. The groups can be awful themselves, those are independent issues.
So if Trump did one thing right, he made their heads explode. And apparently, the Occupy radical left let their heads explode too, out of what, empathy? I'd call it stupidity. The left is owned toe nail to top knot by these Wall St. 3rd World loan shark mafia oligarch storm troopers.you're proving my point about his defenders: not one of these things refutes that he's a disaster. They're irrelevant - who cares about Occupy? why is it of any interest as to whether the left has exploding heads? how do any of those things make support for Trump a reasonable position? rhetorical question: they don't.
Your relentless aren't you? Are you a bot? How much are you being paid? Are you on contract or per post?
Despise, demon, awful, no redeeming qualities? Thank you for the peek into the mind of a TDS victim. Big Smile
podfish
04-17-2020, 08:16 AM
Despise, demon, awful, no redeeming qualities? Thank you for the peek into the mind of a TDS victim. Big Smileyou're just reacting to trigger words, not their context. It's not TDS, they're observations from a thoughtful Trump observer. If he wasn't in a position to hurt anyone, I actually would find him amusing. I kinda like NYC characters.
infojockey
04-17-2020, 09:35 AM
Duck and weave. You are enabling the coat and tie Nazis and can't cop to it because...fragile. Rhetoric is your shield. I just told you what Trump accomplished. He showed the world what the left really is - stooges of the ruling class. Wield your minutiae as you wish, it's a trap and a labyrinth that keeps you blind to the overarching axiom - the left is being stage managed by their enemy in a cosmic scale farce, a charade that makes the angels weep.
he was already well known and had a long and sordid history at that point. so he's got company - there are other people who are unpleasant and/or disqualified in their own right. So? what does that have to do with him?all that shows is how many disparate groups recognize how awful he is. The groups can be awful themselves, those are independent issues.you're proving my point about his defenders: not one of these things refutes that he's a disaster. They're irrelevant - who cares about Occupy? why is it of any interest as to whether the left has exploding heads? how do any of those things make support for Trump a reasonable position? rhetorical question: they don't.
Its been hell on earth for a long time and had nothing to do with China, It started with Pilgrims when they brought their diseases to an inhabited country.
They didn't do it to make money, they did it to kill Trump's chance of reelection and blunt China's economic competition with the IMF and World bank oligarch mafia loan sharking operations. If it doesn't work like the previous attempts didn't work, they will unleash another hell upon the Earth.
Barry
04-17-2020, 12:01 PM
Hi Folks,
I have split this thread off from the CDC discussion ("Was the CDC the criminal mastermind behind the coronavirus outbreak?") it's now called "Has Trump done anything good for America" in the new Engaging with Trumpsters category.
Have at it! :wink:
Barry
infojockey
04-17-2020, 12:06 PM
"...started with Pilgrims..."
My history bookshelf goes back several thousand years. It started way back when religious priesthoods ran their monarch like a marionette. Sumer, Babylon, Egypt, Persia - somewhat earlier than Pilgrims.
Its been hell on earth for a long time and had nothing to do with China, It started with Pilgrims when they brought their diseases to an inhabited country.
cyberanvil
04-17-2020, 02:16 PM
Your relentless aren't you? Are you a bot? How much are you being paid? Are you on contract or per post?
I'm the Truth Sherpa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qk9o_ZeR7s
cyberanvil
04-17-2020, 02:25 PM
you're just reacting to trigger words, not their context. It's not TDS, they're observations from a thoughtful Trump observer. If he wasn't in a position to hurt anyone, I actually would find him amusing. I kinda like NYC characters.
Trigger words? I thought that catchphrase disappeared the same time as Beto. Thoughtful Trump observer? Hummm, OK.
All hail the mad king donald
President Trump fired off a series of tweets Friday that appeared to encourage citizens in states protesting strict coronavirus lockdown orders to “LIBERATE” themselves from their governors — specifically, Democratic governors in states that could be important in the presidential election.
Two minutes after Fox News aired a segment on a Minnesota protest against social distancing orders issued by Gov. Tim Walz, Trump hit the all-caps key and threw his support behind those angry about the restrictions.
LIBERATE MINNESOTA!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 17, 2020 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1251168994066944003?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
The president then targeted two more states where protests had erupted on Thursday.
LIBERATE MICHIGAN!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 17, 2020 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1251169217531056130?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
LIBERATE VIRGINIA, and save your great 2nd Amendment. It is under siege!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 17, 2020 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1251169987110330372?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
In Michigan, where more than 29,000 people have tested positive for the coronavirus, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer has put in place strict stay-at-home orders. Gov. Ralph Northam of Virginia, which has reported more than 7,400 cases, has done the same. Their orders were based on the federal guidelines that Trump himself issued in an effort to curb the spread of the coronavirus. Other states, including some with Republican governors, have enacted similar restrictions.
“When you see a political rally — that’s what it was yesterday — a political rally where people aren’t wearing masks and they’re in close quarters and they’re touching one another, you know that that’s precisely what makes this kind of disease drag out and expose more people,” Whitmer said in an interview with MSNBC.
Trump’s tweets targeting swing states with Democratic governors came the day after he unveiled new criteria (https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-guidelines-for-reopening-country-show-it-could-take-a-while-000542528.html) for the lifting of stay-at-home orders that he said “will allow governors to take a phased and deliberate approach to reopening their individual states.” During the course of the week, he has at different times claimed “total authority” to overrule governors on emergency measures and said he would defer to their decisions.
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-blasts-...K352fxQY17JOTY (https://news.yahoo.com/trump-blasts-new-coronavirus-message-liberate-swing-states-with-democratic-governors-173030851.html?bcmt=1&guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9sb2dpbi55YWhvby5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAKOSkDA7He4yUnymVolruqwQ1rLkBu1-4kptoQDYwj9NgxW4-mMySnyU1WHGpNg8GEXKZ3af_Tz_0Xc2FvNXj3k6OhmZQxpqv_-rP7bU-STJ4zEsdGJk9W8raVMkyvOBCqYcY2ihp0EJQ1JP8Je1ym2e376ahkK352fxQY17JOTY)
So Trump is encouraging people to defy their elected officials I don't have any other thought for this than encouraging insurrection, maybe the tree of liberty does need a little watering.
All hail the mad king donald
President Trump fired off a series of tweets Friday that appeared to encourage citizens in states protesting strict coronavirus lockdown orders to “LIBERATE” themselves from their governors — specifically, Democratic governors in states that could be important in the presidential election.
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cyberanvil
04-17-2020, 05:22 PM
Duck and weave. You are enabling the coat and tie Nazis and can't cop to it because...fragile. Rhetoric is your shield. I just told you what Trump accomplished. He showed the world what the left really is - stooges of the ruling class. Wield your minutiae as you wish, it's a trap and a labyrinth that keeps you blind to the overarching axiom - the left is being stage managed by their enemy in a cosmic scale farce, a charade that makes the angels weep.
Very colorful writing. The Left is not used to being stage managed. :hearye:
podfish
04-17-2020, 07:03 PM
really? you're going to poke at me till I reply? his reply's colorful, it still ignores anything actually said -- he just wants to spout his usual talking points no matter what's in anyone else's reply. He's not 'managing' anybody, he's avoiding dialog by wandering off in different directions where I doubt anyone on the left would be interested in following.
Very colorful writing. The Left is not used to being stage managed. :hearye:
infojockey
04-17-2020, 07:20 PM
Insurrection and the shape shifting left is the police
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYPM6wQQ_js
All hail the mad king donald...
infojockey
04-17-2020, 07:24 PM
I don't dance to your tune. You think that you are the object of my replies. the Internet is a broadcast medium, in case you haven't noticed. Consider yourself transcended.
really? you're going to poke at me till I reply? his reply's colorful, it still ignores anything actually said -- he just wants to spout his usual talking points no matter what's in anyone else's reply. He's not 'managing' anybody, he's avoiding dialog by wandering off in different directions where I doubt anyone on the left would be interested in following.
bakerchic
04-18-2020, 04:41 PM
How has showing "the world what the left really is . . ." benefited America?
So what if Trump was attacked as soon as he announced his candidacy. Isn't that the way the political process works? Generally, the opposing party attacks. It's too bad that some of his own party attacked him.
How does Trump having been demonized prevent someone from articulating how and in what way he has helped America?