Best of Political Humor - January 2019 - Discussion

[rossmen]

Ray as a longtime beekeeper I can assure you that whacking the hive is only a good idea if you want to get stung. It will still happen even if you're nice! But then it is supposed to be good for us. I've had more than my share.

I love living in the age of the internet. So much info at our fingertips. If I really wanted to challenge some tidbit I would look it up for real. Asking someone for their source in this day and age is just lazy potshoting, old school thinking, a certain lack of intellectual curiosity. Fortunately it happens less and less.


... I am "whacking the hive" in the hopes that people will question their assumptions and consider alternative viewpoints....

[podfish]

Ray as a longtime beekeeper I can assure you that whacking the hive is only a good idea if you want to get stung. ...... If I really wanted to challenge some tidbit I would look it up for real. Asking someone for their source in this day and age is just lazy potshoting, old school thinking, a certain lack of intellectual curiosity. Fortunately it happens less and less.that's not the only possible choice of analogy. How 'bout "if I wanted to start a discussion I'd make some unsubstantiated, kind of extreme, statements"? That fits better here.

You're right that swapping links to sources doesn't make for a particularly edifying internet thread. But you're mischaracterising where this has gone. Sure, there've been a few requests for sources - but lot more requests for him to expand, explain or defend some of his statements or choices of things to post. The whole long and ugly chain is right here, you can easily scan it yourself to see the questions he's been posed. It's kind of hard to come up with a fresh way to ask, clearly that's not the direction he's interested in taking this thread. It's pretty played out now, don't you think? with maybe an occasional fresh take here or there.

[Barry]

... I am not a democrat or republican, liberal or conservative. I am an independent thinker who looks at issues from many angles and draws my own conclusions. ...
Don't kid yourself, Ray.

[ray50sfo]

Thanks for the friendly advice.

We all kid ourselves, Barry.

The real question is how much of the propaganda and brainwashing of the last 150 years have we each seen through and given up? And how seriously do we take our own certainty?

I'm ok with self-evaluation and identification, and often chuckle when others attempt imposing their labels - based on their own perceptions and prejudices - on me.

My favorite quote from the Firesign Theater is: "Everything you know is wrong!"

I periodically apply that thought to myself and others and it always leaves me laughing.


Don't kid yourself, Ray.

[wisewomn]

Barry, women are always being judged for their looks, particularly if they do something that makes them stand out.

Trump is ridiculed because he, frankly, looks ridiculous, but it's rare for a man of prominence to be mocked for his appearance.


45907To be fair... and to speak more about "looks" more than "worrying about their looks"... I/we make fun of Trump's looks all the time... orangeness, hair, weight, small hands, pursed lips, long tie, etc.... so by the same token, I wouldn't disqualify comments/cartoons that reference Nancy's looks as any more inappropriate.

I actually thought the botox cartoon was pretty funny, regardless if she has used botox or not... just that it juxtaposed the two notions of "blinking".

[podfish]

Barry, women are always being judged for their looks, particularly if they do something that makes them stand out.

Trump is ridiculed because he, frankly, looks ridiculous, but it's rare for a man of prominence to be mocked for his appearance.I've got to weigh in in the middle. Men are frequently mocked for their looks, but not judged like women are. It's the old power thing - jokes about the group in power aren't a problem, jokes about the things that distinguish groups that are disadvantaged in some way are more fraught. Doesn't mean they can't be funny, but it's a much higher bar.
And to be fair, some people seem to strive for a higher plane where making fun of people is never funny. Seems a bit over-idealistic to me but I don't want to disrespect it.

[occihoff]

Rossmen, are you really declaring that you see no difference in which party's policies are better for the poor?! I'm not exactly a cheer leader for the dems, but the pubs have become way way out there in total distain for the poor!


It really isn't funny to debate whether dem or pub policy is better for the poor, plenty of evidence on both sides. But to poke fun at American politics from all sides? What's not to laugh at?