President Stein... wouldn't it be wonderful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huGpJ_U8Rys
mentally astute, emotionally neutral, morally clean - SO different from the 2 candidates.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huGpJ_U8Rys)GIVE GREENS 5%!!! Save the USA.
jude
Thad
11-08-2016, 12:01 AM
Oh please, use your vote, anyone but trump means, vote Hillary
Jude Iam
11-08-2016, 12:11 AM
thad, you understand that hillary's coronation is assured? that ongoing wars and $1 trillion for nuclear weAPONS IS ASSURED? that TPP is more than likely? that your lifetime will NOT see any meaningful change in the abysmally CORRUPT .01% government we have with dems /repubs???
what do you think is going to change that - or do you like it? or just accept it as inevitable?
voting for hillary in CA and many other states IS A WASTED VOTE; you clearly do not understand the voting system in place now. learn.
jude
Oh please, use your vote, anyone but trump means, vote Hillary
podfish
11-08-2016, 04:47 PM
voting for hillary in CA and many other states IS A WASTED VOTE; you clearly do not understand the voting system in place now. learn.
judeso, you do? teach us about how voting for third-party marginal candidates has worked out in the past. I might well be missing a successful case, but off the top of my head I can't think of any time it resulted in a change to the status quo. Top-of-ticket is a dumb place to start looking for revolutionary change. Focus on the office of the president is simplistic and easy for barely-interested voters to grasp - most probably have no idea the party affiliation of those looking for local offices. But running candidates for local offices who bring new ideas and challenge the "way things are done" is the right way to start. Major changes bubble up from beneath. A politician who brings a track record of change at city, county and state levels may be able to change things at a national level too. Some novice from nowhere, with lovely ideas, will have very little luck changing policy at a wholesale level. Roosevelt and Johnson were heavily entrenched in the political world of their times, and both were fiercely resisted as they forced through their new policies.
Who cares if some other party gets a marginal portion of the presidential vote? What changes will flow from that?
Now, maybe the Icelandic Pirate party will succeed (doesn't look like they did this time) and give us a model we can use here.