Addendum: Having read a few different sources on this film now, I'm not at all sure Scorsese is glorifying the sort of activity depicted, and I no longer recommend boycotting the film. I'm not sure whether I'll see it myself. I tried to delete this post, but that's not allowed when people have responded with their own posts, hence this addendum instead. So, regarding the film, caveat emptor.
Having read this article [and assuming, at least provisionally, that she's right about the movie glorifying the depredations of Wall Street pigs], I will be boycotting the movie "The Wolf of Wall Street", and I urge you to do the same.
https://www.alternet.org/culture/real-life-wolf-wall-street-victim-pens-scathing-letter-scorsese-and-dicaprio
<br><br>I'm with you on this one - thank you, Dixon...
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Having read this article, I will be boycotting the movie "The Wolf of Wall Street", and I urge you to do the same.
https://www.alternet.org/culture/real-life-wolf-wall-street-victim-pens-scathing-letter-scorsese-and-dicaprio
podfish
12-30-2013, 08:40 PM
Dixon, you tripped on that one - though to be fair you did qualify with "assuming, at least provisionally, that she's right about the movie glorifying the depredations of Wall Street pigs".
I don't expect her to have a sense of humor about a story that's personal to her, but you should have recognized the form: a complaint that something is too awful to be used as a source of humor. No holocaust jokes - really, no dead baby jokes, could possibly be funny. And of course they aren't, I know that!!!
Although I found the movie extremely entertaining. Anyone who sees it as a celebration and an endorsement of "wall street pigs" has a hugely different world-view than I do, to frame it in as value-neutral a way as I can. My take on it is that Scorsese made a Ben Stiller, Seth Rogen or Adam Sandler movie - and he's a lot better a director, using a lot better cast, so the movie's far beyond what any of those could hope to achieve.
It's still a fundamentally stupid movie, though, just like "Something About Mary" or "Forgetting Sarah Marshall". No subtle message or life-lesson here....
Dixon
12-31-2013, 12:28 AM
Dixon, you tripped on that one -
If that's true, it's no big surprise. It's been known to happen! :crazysmile:
...though to be fair you did qualify with "assuming, at least provisionally, that she's right about the movie glorifying the depredations of Wall Street pigs".
I'm glad you noticed that. I'm usually pretty careful about what I say.
I don't expect her to have a sense of humor about a story that's personal to her, but you should have recognized the form: a complaint that something is too awful to be used as a source of humor.
I'm not sure that was what she was saying. Even if it is her position, it's not what I was responding to. I was responding to her claim that the movie glorifies the depredations of ripoff artists. That's a different issue.
Of course, not having seen the movie myself, I'm not sure it's true. So I knew when I recommended boycotting the movie that I might have to eat my words.
No holocaust jokes - really, no dead baby jokes, could possibly be funny. And of course they aren't, I know that!!!
Actually, I disagree on that. Jokes about nearly anything can be funny to me, as long as they don't seem to be mean-spirited. Remind me to tell you my exploding space shuttle jokes sometime, or my many jokes about yo' mama... :shake'em:
Anyway, I'll have to reconsider my position on this movie. I'm leaning toward deleting my initial post, which I guess would delete the entire thread... :thinking: