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    Middle School Child ARRESTED for Burping in Class

    Saturday, December 3, 2011
    Middle School Child ARRESTED for Burping in Class

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    In another disturbing case of the school-to-prison pipeline, the Associated Press is reporting that a 13-year-old middle school student in Albuquerque, New Mexico was handcuffed and hauled off to juvenile detention for "burping audibly" in class.

    According to a lawsuit filed by civil rights attorney Shannon Kennedy, only days before this incident, the same student was forced to be strip searched for suspicion of marijuana possession. After five adults inspected the boy in his underwear, nothing was found and he was never charged.

    To make matters worse, the parents of the burping bandit were not even notified by the school when he was taken into custody, leaving them to worry for his safety when he didn't return home from school.


    Unfortunately, this is not an isolated incident for the Albuquerque school system where in the previous year Kennedy won a settlement against the district when they arrested a girl who "didn't want to sit by the stinky boy in class."

    Kennedy reports that "200 school kids have been handcuffed and arrested in the last three years for non-violent misdemeanors," and that she has several cases she is preparing for the mistreatment of students by Albuquerque school officials and law enforcement enablers.

    ACLU describes the school-to-prison pipeline as:
    a disturbing national trend wherein children are funneled out of public schools and into the juvenile and criminal justice systems. Many of these children have learning disabilities or histories of poverty, abuse or neglect, and would benefit from additional educational and counseling services. Instead, they are isolated, punished and pushed out. 'Zero-tolerance' policies criminalize minor infractions of school rules.
    The American Bar Association has condemned these zero-tolerance policies as inherently unjust:
    zero tolerance has become a one-size-fits-all solution to all the problems that schools confront. It has redefined students as criminals, with unfortunate consequences …Unfortunately, most current [zero-tolerance] policies eliminate the common sense that comes with discretion and, at great cost to society and to children and families, do little to improve school safety.
    This lack of common sense when dealing with children seems to be just another symptom of the growing police state mentality in America. According to many polls, parents and teachers overwhelmingly support zero-tolerance policies for weapons, drugs, and violence in schools, but few studies have been done on non-violent infractions -- like burping in class or requesting not to be seated next to a stinky classmate.

    According to the Albuquerque Student Behavior Handbook, "The principal has the responsibility to take discretionary action any time the educational process is threatened with disruption." Apparently, burping is enough of a disruption to warrant an arrest according to school officials.

    Ultimately, Kennedy will likely win all of her cases at great cost to the local taxpayers who should be outraged at the behavior of their public school and law enforcement officials.
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    Re: Middle School Child ARRESTED for Burping in Class

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    Saturday, December 3, 2011
    Middle School Child ARRESTED for Burping in Class

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    In another disturbing case of the school-to-prison pipeline, the Associated Press is reporting that a 13-year-old middle school student in Albuquerque, New Mexico was handcuffed and hauled off to juvenile detention for "burping audibly" in class.
    So someguy, do you think that some so-called federal "civil rights" laws (regulations) should (because they don't) exist to make clear what the boundaries are in matters like this one?... ...Or do you think that only the local governments, and/or States should decide?

    The reason I am asking you someguy, is that you have in other posts said or at least strongly implied that the federal (big) government should not wield too much power (as they do now) and it should have far fewer "regulations".

    The local laws and practices like this which are so wrongheaded will inevitably prevail if there becomes too much emphasis on deregulation and ignoring the civil rights aspects of federal law within the idioms of the deregulation movement that insist the Federal government to butt-out almost entirely.

    This is the kind of thing I was attempting to relate to you in other posts on other threads would be inevitable with so much hard core deregulation politics. Same sort of thing physiologically speaking as the fear tactics (and lies) that created the Patriot Act and all of the bad things in it.

    Anyway, I don't mean to be abrasive; (hopefully you don't feel that I am being abrasive) I hope that you see my input as just food for thought.
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    Re: Middle School Child ARRESTED for Burping in Class

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    So someguy, do you think that some so-called federal "civil rights" laws (regulations) should (because they don't) exist to make clear what the boundaries are in matters like this one?... ...Or do you think that only the local governments, and/or States should decide?

    The reason I am asking you someguy, is that you have in other posts said or at least strongly implied that the federal (big) government should not wield too much power (as they do now) and it should have far fewer "regulations".

    The local laws and practices like this which are so wrongheaded will inevitably prevail if there becomes too much emphasis on deregulation and ignoring the civil rights aspects of federal law within the idioms of the deregulation movement that insist the Federal government to butt-out almost entirely.

    This is the kind of thing I was attempting to relate to you in other posts on other threads would be inevitable with so much hard core deregulation politics. Same sort of thing physiologically speaking as the fear tactics (and lies) that created the Patriot Act and all of the bad things in it.

    Anyway, I don't mean to be abrasive; (hopefully you don't feel that I am being abrasive) I hope that you see my input as just food for thought.
    Well this is a freedom of speech issue and should be enforced by the federal government. That is one of the key roles of the federal government, to protect the bill of rights and the constitution.

    The federal governments role is not to control our economy, educational system, or welfare state.
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    Re: Middle School Child ARRESTED for Burping in Class

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    Well this is a freedom of speech issue and should be enforced by the federal government. That is one of the key roles of the federal government, to protect the bill of rights and the constitution.

    The federal governments role is not to control our economy, educational system, or welfare state.
    Thanks for answering.


    Your answer however is somewhat inconstant with what you have been saying in general in your posts regarding the topic of the federal government's role.
    On one hand you say this is a freedom of speech issue that is apparently guaranteed by the Constitution and yet in the next sentence you state that the “federal government's role is not to control our... ...educational system”.

    Well guess what whether we like it or not, that school was part of the “educational system”!
    Not only that, there is no right to belch written into the constitution nor do I think there are any presidents specifically related to any constitutional right to belch in class.

    What about segregation? If the federal government is supposed to have nothing to do with the educational system and why would segregation not be another likely outcome of the federal government not having any say-so over schools? (Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Voted For The 1964 Civil Rights Act (VIDEO).


    All I can say is that that there seems to be a blind spot, caused by something like maybe a lack of memory, inexperience, prejudice, or some sort of a combination thereof, which seems in my view to feed into the hypocrisy of people preaching freedom on one hand that would on the other allow local jurisdictions to dictate and arbitrate what they believe fits within their view of the Constitution as they choose to see it whereas they do not feel or think that the federal government has a role to play when they are actually constitutionally in the wrong.

    I could go on and on about the multitude of hypocrisies of those who, for just one example; on one hand claim to be strict constitutionalist, and on the other want to change the Constitution to suit their core beliefs. But, I have to restrain myself.

    Anyway, here I am writing a reply to a thread that I did not think I was going to reply to anymore.

    So with that I will restrain from anymore replies on this particular thread.

    So if you want a reply from me, I will answer it on a new thread or one other than this one that already exists.
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