Click Banner For More Info See All Sponsors

  • Share this thread on:
  • Follow: No Email   
  • Thread Tools
  1. TopTop #31
    forestvaros
     

    Re: The Barlow FAILED to protect it's tennants during flood.

    Quote Dorothy Friberg wrote: View Post
    My comment was to the Sebastopol folks who seem to endlessly complain about every detail of a problem.....
    While there are certainly some people who fit the profile you describe, there are others who willfully refuse to accept the validity of people airing real grievances and expecting accountability. (Yes, see that image in the mirror?) It seems to me that you've got such a firmly entrenched set of prejudices toward liberals in Sebastopol that you can't actually listen with compassion to anything they have to say.

    Did you actually read the article (or watch the video) that ChefJayTay linked to? I would be interested in hearing exactly what *you* would have done if you were a business owner in the situation in which the folks in the Barlow found themselves a couple of weeks ago when the flood warnings were coming. Because from what I've read, it seems very clear that the flood preparedness plan from the developer was close to impossible to implement in real-world circumstances. And -- also from what I've gathered from articles and commentary -- starting earlier (i.e. "heeding the forecasts" as you described it) wouldn't have made much of a difference. Yes, perhaps some of them could have moved merchandise into emergency storage if they had it available, etc. But their storefronts would still be ruined. And their staff out of work. What happens to the hundred plus people who worked at Community Market? .. as one example. Calling this situation "winter ... presenting a problem" is callous and dismissive.

    I agree with your first sentiment, that the river folk are showing tenacity and resilience. As to the other point, it would appear that you're literally trying to shut down a discussion *on a discussion board* by attempting to shame the participants in that discussion. Know what? It reflects on you, not the people you're insulting.

    (...Speaking as someone whose access to my rental home was completely cut off [thank God, didn't lose any belongings, but I went through that already when my family lost everything in the '91 Oakland Hills fire] for a couple of days while in my first week at a brand-new job, and only got running water back this past Monday (due to damages to our well when it got submerged). ... who, yeah, lives a few minutes above Forestville, a minute from the river. Screw this false dichotomy bullshit pitting "riverfolk" against people in Sebastopol. God help us, we have enough divisions already in our society without inventing even more. Learn a little compassion.)
    | Login or Register (free) to reply publicly or privately   Email

  2. Gratitude expressed by 3 members:

  3. TopTop #32
    Barry's Avatar
    Barry
    Founder & Moderator

    Re: The Barlow FAILED to protect it's tennants during flood.

    As a point of information... It's my understanding that the tenant's responsibility for flood preparation is solely to move their stuff above the flood line, which is marked on the wall of all their units. It's the landlord's responsibility to install the flood prevention logs.

    | Login or Register (free) to reply publicly or privately   Email

  4. Gratitude expressed by 3 members:

  5. TopTop #33
    TNTfarms
     

    Re: The Barlow FAILED to protect it's tennants during flood.

    Silly buildings. Flood plains are for water
    | Login or Register (free) to reply publicly or privately   Email

  6. Gratitude expressed by 4 members:

  7. TopTop #34
    farmerdan's Avatar
    farmerdan
     

    Re: The Barlow FAILED to protect it's tennants during flood.

    I just returned from Chile to find the Barlow still with closed streets.
    Seems odd that after 3 weeks everything is still closed with no news...anyone know what is going on?

    Quote TNTfarms wrote: View Post
    Silly buildings. Flood plains are for water
    | Login or Register (free) to reply publicly or privately   Email

  8. Gratitude expressed by:

  9. TopTop #35
    rossmen
     

    Re: The Barlow FAILED to protect it's tennants during flood.

    Flood recovery has followed the same path as fire recovery, regulatory standards becoming increasingly onerous. So a flooded business is red tagged. That means everything inside gets thrown out, sure you can wash dishes but everything porous or with hard to clean crannys is contaminated, even above the water. Then interior walls, flooring and insulation are demoed. The business can start over after the building is repaired.

    Quote farmerdan wrote: View Post
    I just returned from Chile to find the Barlow still with closed streets.
    Seems odd that after 3 weeks everything is still closed with no news...anyone know what is going on?
    | Login or Register (free) to reply publicly or privately   Email

  10. Gratitude expressed by 3 members:

Similar Threads

  1. Sebastopol Flood Photos
    By Barry in forum General Community
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 03-04-2019, 09:28 AM
  2. Local rivers expected to flood
    By Jude Iam in forum General Community
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 12-11-2014, 03:34 PM
  3. War on drugs has failed, say former leaders
    By Zeno Swijtink in forum WaccoReader
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 06-09-2011, 08:08 AM
  4. Will California become America's first failed state?
    By Zeno Swijtink in forum WaccoReader
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 10-04-2009, 07:49 PM
  5. Mexico: On the Road to a Failed State?
    By Zeno Swijtink in forum WaccoReader
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 05-13-2008, 07:36 PM

Bookmarks